rework god damn Dead Hard

I’m fine with the invincibility, but the added speed boost automatically allows survivors to extend a chase to ridiculous lengths.

IMO it should be reduced to just invincibility, not invincibility + speed.

I disagree. It's extremely easy to play around it and requires very good prediction and timing to be used decently.

Nah. On a good killer, Dead Hard only works one time. Once they see you use it mid chase, they will simply bait it out and then put you in the ground.

Hell I'm not even a good killer but that's what I do.

It works too well against certain killers???? If you don't bait the dead hard it will work against any killer. Going over the trapper's traps. Well they can't even be sabotaged now so you expect a down every time you chase a survivor and they go near a trap?

Why should a phantasm hit be guaranteed just by triggering a trap?

It gives an extra health point but at the same time people are too comfortable being injured???? Well if they don't heal because they feel so comfortable then they don't have an extra health point they have the same as if they had healed.

Dead hard at loops is unfair???? So a perk being used as a perk is unfair?

What's your idea for a rework? Anyone who uses dead hard is immediately teleported to a hook?

^This^

Also, Dead Hard really isn't that strong if you know how to bait it out and anticipate it. Treat it like DS, everyone has it until proven otherwise.

Killers can easily counter dead hard simply by acknowlidging that the survivor has it in their arsenal.

Anytime I am chasing a dead hard player, I simply extend my time before the finishing hit to force them to panic-use it and then just walk up to them to finish off.

If there is a pallet for them to loop, I simply just try to predict the moment when they are going to use it and hold my hit and hit them 0.5 second after they dead hard. This way their dead hard ends to my hit animation still inside their collition box and they fall down at the end of their dead hard.

If survivors suddenly turn around to run past me, I know they are about to dead hard through me, so I just stop, wait and then hit after they use it.

There's many way to play around dead hard, all you need is a bit of practice and understanding in what situations good players often use them.

The only timeI can not do anything about the dead hard is when the survivors are running towards a window or pallet and normally would not make it in time but since they got dead hard, they can boost themselves to reach it to safety. And that is just fine...

No skill to use it. Dead hard allows you to abuse certain loops to the max extent and if you fail to do so you can just use dead hard to drop pallet.

Using Dead Hard to extend a loop doesn't require much skill, yes. Though being able to accurately gauge how much distance between you and the Killer and when you need to Dead Hard requires WAY more skill than most give it credit for, it is a relatively easy thing to do.

You know what else doesn't require skill? Proccing Sprint Burst, Balanced Landing, or Lithe. They all ALSO serve the purpose of extending loops, and they do it better than Dead Hard. Extending loops is the reason why you equip an Exhaustion Perk, so a Dead Hard used in chase to avoid a down is no more of a problem than a Sprint Burst being used to get some extra distance.

i laugh when i read: ''It ReQuIrEs sKiLlS FrOm sURviVovRs!!1''.. I agree with you my dude, this perk is bullshit, press e or x to waste even more time in a chase.. in b4 people who complain about being exasuthed on the ground don't know how to use this perk.. you use dead hard to gain distance, to reach a window/pallet, to outplay a nurse, to revert a bad play, to outplay a trap, to loop even more most of the killer, which don't have a good power to deal with some set ups, and dead hard makes those set up even stronger and IT REQUIRES NO SKILLS!. They nerfed ruin because it was the most used perk and it required no effort from the killer, now that balanced landing is nerfed, dead hard is used in like 90% of the games, so it should get the same treatment, because it's even worse..

Are you aware that there are only 2 killer's (that I can think of off the top of my head) that force DH to be used as intended? How do you bait something that is being used the exact opposite as intended?

I'd rather have BT and DS reworked before DH, but I have had a few cases where I've had a chase down, only for a DH into a pallet. Can be annoying, and sometimes down right frustrating, but there are other perks that need attention before DH.

I love how almost everyone here just completely ignored that OP already acknowledge and based his opinion on one of the reasons to rework DH for being inconsistent and not working most of the time.

If you guys want a better DH who DOESN'T reads "Press E to be exhausted at ground" maybe a rework idea don't sound that bad.

Dude, you are saying it is to OP und in the same comment you say its to unreliable. I guess it cant be both so which one is it now?

I think the perk in itself is good and fair. But with the dedicated servers, oftenly like someone said before, youll be exhausted on the ground.