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Is it authorized to use macros (configured on a Logitech Keyboard) in order to wiggle and struggle ?

Hello everyone !

I've searched the answer of this question for 1 hour. Unfortunately, I haven't find any official answer concerning the legal aspect of using macro in order to struggle and wiggle against a killer.

My main purpose is to preserve my keyboard buttons as long as possible. I have a Logitech keyboard which give me the possibility to repeat some inputs in a regular frequency (q + d to wiggle and space bar to struggle).

However, I really don't know if this is consider as cheating or not (from the point of view of both EAC and the Community). Could we be banned by making a such use of macros ?

Does it exist some "legal rules" around the use of macros ? I wonder if these macros are authorized if we used them under a specific treshold. (as example fired up q+d every 0.5 seconds etc.)

Thank you in advance !

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  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,317
    edited April 2020

    @Thunderdiamond @MandyTalk

    Before I give my opinion on this, it should be noted that i'm not a mod and my word isn't a fact. Take what I say with a grain of salt and that's all, it shouldn't automatically be accepted as a fact if the answer itself is not 100% confirmed.

    Anyways, a quick skim through the Game Rules doesn't reveal any answers directly, but it can be argued that this falls under the "Other Hacks" category in the post itself. Here's a quote from that category below.

    "Using 3rd party software or other tools to gain any kind of unfair advantage that wasn’t intended by the game, except if they have been whitelisted by us."

    I can't say for sure if it's allowed or not, but a macro is technically a 3rd party software... So I'm not entirely sure if this falls under that category since macroing in itself isn't mentioned in the Game Rules as punishable (unless I missed it). I @'ed Mandy to this post for confirmation, but as for an answer from me... I don't know for sure, you'd think it's NOT allowed because it's literally a macro right? As far as The Game Rules says, it never mentions the use of macros as a punishable offence (again, could've missed it).

    here's my source if you'd like to go through it yourself

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest

  • Thunderdiamond
    Thunderdiamond Member Posts: 3

    @FireHazard

    First of all, thank you for your constructive answer (that I consider as a point of view and not as a fact like you warned me).

    I must to admit that i'm not confortable with the terms of "3dr party software" (in the deep meaning of the term), that's why I'm asking these questions in order to clarify if a macro natively enable in a keyword is considered as a 3rd party solution which falls under the hacks category.

    My main problem is that I don't know if a handicrafted keyboard macro is consider as a cheat. In one hand, it can avoid some human mistakes, making, as example, a wiggle the fastest possible (that's why I wonder it wouldn't be allowed), but in the other hand, this isn't impact the gameplay of the others players (if we compare that to the sadly infamous "flashlight macro" which can make the others players crash in-game).

    I really enjoy this game and the Community that makes it live. That's why I only want to use macros if this isn't consider as a cheat or an unfair playing style (even if this isn't consider as a bannable offense).

    I think it could be a good suggestion for Behavior to clarify this aspec in the Games Rules.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,317
    edited April 2020

    In some games a macro is considered a 3rd party software, in this game it isn't really clarified in the Game Rules themselves. Some games consider macros as a bannable offence, while other games don't care too much for them. It really depends on the game you're playing and what that macro does to impact your gameplay.

    In the case of using it as an automatic struggle button (as an example), it's not really known if that's ok or not. I'm sure it was asked somewhere before, but I don't really know where that would be if it was said at all.

    Also, some players have issues with pressing a button repeatedly over and over, it's been an issue for some players for awhile now and I can understand WHY it's an issue if you suffer from a medical issue (for example). But besides all the reasons to WHY you'd use a macro, I still don't really know if it's ok or not.

    I'll try to dig deeper to get you an answer, but unless a Dev or Mod comes in than... I don't really know if I can find you one. The use of macros in this game is really niche anyways, so not many people ask or mention this to begin with (from what I've seen anyways).

  • Thunderdiamond
    Thunderdiamond Member Posts: 3

    Thank you for the reply and your help around this topic, I totally agree with you.

    To speak again about the "wiggle" functionnality. I Wonder if the developpers have set up a speed limit for the inputs (as example, maybe pressing q+d every 0.001 seconds will not fill the wiggling jauge faster than pressing them every 0.75 seconds).

    If there are such mechanism, I think it could be authorized in the game. However, as you said, the best would be to get an official answer from a Dev or a Mod.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,317

    I don't personally think there's a wiggle functionality, I've never heard of this being mentioned anywhere to be honest. But yes, we'll have to wait and see for an official response for this question.