Why aren’t there more buffs for legion in the ptb?
Legion is one of the weakest killers in the game besides clown ..so why didn’t they buff him since it’s his tome? This is like the best time to give him a few changes like 3 second stun,not losing there ability when hitting a survivor and also not losing there ability on a missed attack ..these changes alone would not only make him feel better but also make him better..and also franks mix tape? Why didn’t they change that????
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BHVR doesn't know what to do with them and are afraid to change them in their current form. It's disappointing, but it's been kind of proven at this point with the amount of rework and buff suggestions they get and not addressing 90% of them.
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As far as I know Legion isn't nearly as weak as you make him out to be. In fact, I'm pretty sure most killers find Legion pretty good, and most survivors think it's too overpowered.
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They changed a Shitload of Maps, you cannot expect them to also rework Legion. Because I think he cannot be fixed with Buffs (or Nerfs), he needs a Rework. Feral Frenzy was a bad idea, they should try something different with Legion (even tho, I like to have a Killer who can vault Windows and Pallets).
And this cannot be done with a simple mid Chapter Patch, where already a lot of stuff is present.
(The Change in this Mid Chapter is already pretty solid, in my opinion. This was one of the things which bothered me the most)
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I'd take all the reworks, ideas and changes almost every player made for him is enough evidence of nobody liking his current place. And sadly its not for being strong
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Well, when you think about it. Being able to vault every pallet and window (at the same speed as survivors?) is a pretty awesome power.
Granted, I think Deep Wound is a little weak, since it's not even that bad to deal with as survivor. But I'll play him and see what I think after.
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I like all the changes but with legion this is the perfect time to give him QOL changes it’s his tome and they already gave him a minor QOL why not more?
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You lose your power if you miss in FF...you lose half of your bar if you attack someone and he has a 4 second stun..his power is to punishing for a power that’s not lethal not to mention his addons suck.. I mean franks mix tape is still here
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Do you know what the W key is?
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Lol alright alright, I'm gonna play him for awhile and come back :D
Y'all are so logical.....
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It's not bait. There are many killers who 4k with Legion constanty.
I'm Rank 1 on PS4 and when I do Legion dailies people DC for no reason. I get he's a boring killer sometimes but at least give me a chance to fail/win.
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That 4 second stun you get allows people to really get far away lol..honestly tho if they don’t change him his tome wont be fun
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you Can 4 k with any killer lol dosnt mean there good
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You can 4K with Nurse if you're good with them. I 4k with Legion, I've mained Legion since day one, and I can tell you that Legion is in a bad spot right now. He's not as bad as Nurse or Bubba right now, but he's not in a good spot.
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I guess you're right, but it at least says they're something.
I don't consider Legion weak, they still get a free hit with 115% movement speed.
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Legion is my second main and I can tell you, they are far from weak.
When played correctly you can apply a massive amount of pressure and in the best scenarios you can stall the game for up to a minute. People really underrate them.
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I disagree with you legion is weak and in a terrible spot I’ve listed why above in a few comments
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1) He isn’t as weak as people make out. In fact he’s ok considering he’s the easiest of all killers.
2) He’s awful and ruins the game for a lot of people. He’s popular enough as it is due to his edgelord look. Best not to make him meta.
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Legion is weak, people play him cuz they want to. case-in-point OG freddy, he was the weakest yet people played him still 2 because they wanted to.
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OG freddy was one of my favorites I'll admit :D
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- You lose your power if you miss FF
Thats why you shouldnt miss you FF, at this point the only times you should miss hits is when the survivor has dead hard.
- You lose half your bar if you attack someone
Not really an issue when their power recovers so fast, by the time you have hooked the person you hit your power is already ready,
- 4 second stun
Survivors don't gain that much distance when cancelling your power, plus, you can play around that stun in many ways, I always run enduring on them because getting pallet stunned during your power is actually really beneficial, from 4 seconds stun to just 1.
- Non lethal power
The point of their power is not to down, but to stall.
- Bad add-ons
Agreed.
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thats my point, just because people play him doesnt = strong. alot of survivors dont like him because of the mending, after his power ends hes just a normal m1 killer.
billy can miss his chainsaw and still attack before Legion can. ######### id say reduce his TR to 0 just as they show it in his trailer.
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I play on console so it’s hard to hit your FF even with sensitivity increase you still have FPS problems lol the 4 second stun is insane and IT does give you a lot of ground to get away next losing your power on attack ..it’s just stupid your power is not lethal next addons definitely need changing ..just make his power a 3 second stun and don’t give him addons that decrease the stun and for the love of god pls change franks mixtape
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Balance changes do now work that way.
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I disagree
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And people like you is the reason why balance keeps changing with every patch. Instead of improving the game overrall devs always waste time with balance changes .
Its stupid to buff someone because he has a birthday or something.
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I don't think the devs know what exactly to do to them. It's kinda like what happened with Wraith in both Legacy Evolve and Evolve Stage 2. She was either overpowered or underpowered throughout the game's life. I don't remember if she ever was considered balanced at any point.
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It’s people like you that hold the game back..legion is the 2-3 worst killer in the game I’d argue the 2nd first being clown ..now this is legions tome this would really be the best time to buff them or at LEAST QOL changes and addon changes people vastly agree that legion needs help and it’s people like you that hold the game back
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Rank 1 Legion main here.
If they had to have a rework, I hope it doesn't change their power too much as it would ruin it for everyone else who actually enjoys playing him and his power.
Yes Legion has a lot of problems, and I agree with most of the changes suggested, such as add-ons rework (some are literally useless such as Frank's mixtape and stab wound study), removing the loss of power gauge on basic attacks, reducing the stun cooldown of frenzy a bit, fixing their bugs such as not being able to see gen aura while in killer instinct and their hitbox while they are suffering the cooldown so they can probably bodyblock and not have survivors pass right through them. And there's more to be changed but I won't state them all.
Although I still think we should keep the fact that if they miss an attack during frenzy, it should still cancel their power or at least reduce their power gauge/have some kind of consequence or else it will be no skill Legion all over again where a braindead player can get free hits on survivors non stop. Keeping that disadvantage makes him funner to play, more intense, gives survivors a chance to counter his power and make him overall harder to play so not anyone can just pick-up on him instantly and get free hits on survivors.
Making him more lethal can also cause problems, a good Legion player will already collect their free down with a mindgame after they've frenzi'ed the survivor. So making him more lethal would make him possibly broken on good players again. We definitely need a way to make more slightly more lethal tho, maybe make deep wound an ACTUAL threat or make him more lethal via add-on reworks but again, a killer shouldn't be too dependent on add-ons.
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I still main Legion. It was hard to for a while there, but I've been having a lot of fun with them since December. They're in a decent spot right now. I would like some qol changes, but the one they're putting forth is actually at least one thing I've been wanting. Not the best, but I'm glad it's something. Personally, I kinda want a change to Frank's mix tape. Cut FF duration and recharge time in half. Doesn't stack with duration boost add-ons.
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If by in a good spot you mean one of the worst killers in the game then ya sure lol it’s widely agreed that legion is in a terrible spot right now
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you kidding right, legion is the killer that can apply map pressure really good and you need more buff? Just play Legion more and you'll be good
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OMG can people stop complaining about Legion? They are NOT that weak. Solid mid tier. Clown, Wraith, and Bubba are all clearly inferior.
It's seriously irritating at this point.
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peo are saying it because it’s true lol I’m sorry to burst your bubble but legion is low D tier probably the second worst in the game
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No they're saying it because they are playing the killer wrong or flat out a bad killer. He is not that weak.
PS. I'm not saying he is amazingly strong or that he doesn't need some changes (specifically a few add-ons like FMT need a rework), but it's just ridiculous how emo Legion mains get about wanting buffs.
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Legion isnt that weak its just the add-ons are really bad. The only thing the Legion needs are certain add-ons buff or rework.
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I’m not a legion main I want legion buffs because the killer is cool I like the edgy vibe they have going on if he was stronger I’d main them unfortunately there the one of the weakest killers in the game almost everyone agrees that’s why in every tier list you see he’s in low D tier because he is weak it’s that simple
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No, I don't. Legion is the only killer I have at p3. After December, Legion runs about as fast as they use to, and the change to the pins make them actually useful. Sure, you can't use sloppy or stbfl anymore, but I mean, you can just use a pin to mangle everyone or make them broken. Works great with Thanatophobia for a slow down build.
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They should revert that aswell
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Legion actually got indirectly buffed by smaller map size since survivors will be more clumled up. His power is not the worst but it is the penalties that it has makes it frustrating to use.
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Something to keep in mind... Legion is 1 of 2 (maybe 3) killers in the game with a power that actually gives them a 1v4 game that doesn't require prep time. Is Legion not great in a 1v1? Sure, but that's fine. The game is allowed to have killers that specialize in different things.
All that said, I do think they have a few too many restrictions on their power. Seriously, why does landing an M1 eat half your power? Also at some point Frank's Mix Tape and Stab Wound Study need changed. After the rework to Deep Wound, they're just worthless. I am however pretty excited for their current buff on the PTB.
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SU, every killer need a buff
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It’s not really a buff it’s a QOL change and legion needs many of those full addon reworks,stun time put a 3 seconds,power not depleted when attacking someone..I mean seriously why am I punished for doing my objective? Also missed attacks in FF shouldn’t cancel his power..it’s not lethal so why am I punished so bad by missing a attack in FF? Literally these changes would make legion 100% better
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then you should provide valid points as to why he needs buffs? Do you even play him?
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I’ve named several points through out the comment section several different times I don’t feel like repeating them so just go look also yes I’ve played him I used to play him a lot but with how many issues they have it’s so annoying I can’t anymore
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i've made a discussion about legion too just think they need a complete rework no other way to say it
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That wouldn’t ever happen tho and even if it did it would be like years from now
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yep devs just don't have the guts to try anything instead we have another killer we can't play in red or purple ranks
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Legion is consistently at the bottom of people's tier lists so idk who you've heard from
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