As a Killer Main, why is Freddy so overdone?

you are right. i don't think any 115% movement speed killer needs an ability to teleport to gens, and WITH snares and everything freddy already has it is terribly strong and should be looked at. freddy has everything and doesn't require any skill.

You know why people demand that BT should work on Freddy? BT is a second chance perk and due to that one of the most used survivor perks in high ranks.

To solve that issue i would make BT just not TR based, more like distance based. 4-12 metres imo.

Freddy loses bloodlust when placing a trap. I checked in kyf after being told the opposite. But let me know if you get a different result.

Ahhhhhh, I get it. My question is why doesn't doc lose bloodlust after using his shock. He is the only killer that gets to keep blood lust when using his power?

I won't disagree that every killer is strong with the right build, but at base OBJECTIVELY Freddy is definitely stronger than Billy. He has more tools and more potential to be stronger. It's not that I'm saying Billy is weak, I'm saying Freddy is just stronger than Billy. You can easily see this if you play them naked with no perks/add-ons. Freddy will still crush most good survivors where Billy will struggle with better survivors. Freddy just has way more potential in his kit and takes far less effort to get to that maximum potential than Billy. To be super oppressive as a naked Billy, you have to be a good Billy. To be super oppressive as a naked Freddy, you only have to be a decent Freddy.

Also Billy's slow down add-ons don't even compare to Freddy's. Begrimed Chains slows down survivors by 9% for 120 seconds, and requires you to find and hit the survivor with a chainsaw. Considering that upon doing this you will get a hook, practically you are only getting that debuff for 60-90s at best. Freddy has several add-ons that apply a debuff and require 0 input on his part. The survivor just falls asleep naturally, or by being hit. And it's indefinite until the survivor wakes up (which itself is a game slowing mechanic). With Jump Rope and Swing Chains Freddy gets up to a 12% debuff AND up to an 8% debuff on awake survivors. He doesn't need to do anything to get those debuffs, but if he does find and hit you he just applies the debuff sooner rather than later. Billy's add-ons cannot compete with that kind of passive slow down. Freddy also has Paint Brush which can start survivors asleep and keep them asleep longer, making the debuff semi-permanent for the entirety of the game.

Billy is just not as strong as Freddy. You really can't argue this.

Hag is a good killer if you learn how to use her properly, but sorry she's not even close to Freddy or Billy.

Hag has HARD counters. Flashlights and Urban Evasion pretty much nullify her power completely. She is also 110, meaning she can't chase as effectively unless she places traps during the chase or before the chase.

Billy is 115 with a one shot. His snowball potential alone puts him way above Hag. Hag has a better defense when it comes to gen or hook protection (camping), but Billy is very close to this strength. Trying to make a save against either killer is very difficult if they decide to camp. Billy also has higher mobility and he isn't required to have already been to a place to get there quickly.

Freddy has even higher mobility than Billy, and his power hos no real hard counters. The best you can do is stuff like Resil, Botany, etc. to counter the passive slowdown from his add-ons. Snares have exactly 0 counters, you can know they are there and it won't matter. You either take a long path to avoid it, or eat it and slow down, either way you get hit. And he can spam them without penalty. The closest counter to snares is Calm Spirit because you don't scream he can't use it as a tracking tool against you, but it will still work in a chase. He can also camp very effectively because Dream World is an automatic anti-BT. If he camps it can be very difficult to get a safe rescue because of this. And due to his teleport, he has as much long range camping potential as Hag.

Hag is pretty easy to bully as a 4 man SWF. She relies on you being overly-altruistic to actually be lethal, but if you have good communication you can break her setups pretty well. The moment she picks up a survivor to hook, you trigger every trap you can. That alone makes it very difficult to play against SWF as Hag. Billy and Freddy, especially Freddy, are far less affected by SWF shenanigans like this.

Like, case and point, since new Freddy came out I had exactly 1 team 4e me, and it was Ward where I had really bad RNG and played very poorly. I think I even had a different build that wasn't very strong. Every other game is a 3k/hatch or 4k. Maybe 1 other team got 2e on me, but 95% of my games the survivors never make it to gates. He is insanely strong, and it's to a point where I don't enjoy playing him because it doesn't feel very rewarding TBH. Hence why I just stick to Spirit and Ghostface because it's more fun and challenging (even though I consider Spirit a stronger killer, she takes more skill to be stronger so that's why I enjoy her more).

Here is a tier list I made a few months ago that outlines where I think each killer is. S tier killers are hands down the strongest, A tier killers are very strong but have weaknesses that can be exploited or take a lot of skill, B tier are good but have weaknesses that are hard to overcome, C tier can be lethal with the right builds and a good amount of skill but it will be an uphill battle, and D tier have glaring weaknesses that are easy to exploit. This was before Deathslinger, if I were to place him I would probably put him right after Oni, since he has high chase potential and semi-stealth but suffers heavily in map pressure.

You don't really need a "build" for Freddy to compete with Billy though. Give him BBQ and Pop and Freddy will have way more map pressure than Billy ever could. Snares by default are a stronger chase tool than chainsaw. If you loop well, you can avoid the chainsaw on most tiles and force Billy to m1. You can't avoid snares, and they will work on every single tile in the game. So in a situation where Billy is forced to m1, Freddy will win at those loops much much sooner than Billy. And if we factor in add-ons, again Billy's slow down add-ons require him to chainsaw you and have a limited time frame of effect. Freddy's are passive, require no input on his end (and if he provides input he just increases the slow down even more), and are indefinite until the survivor wakes up (which this act itself is a slow down mechanic built into his kit).

So Freddy doesn't need a build to be super effective. He needs 2 perks, and maybe 1 add-on to be roughly equal with a fully loaded Billy.

Also if the build you are talking about for Billy includes Infectious, just remember that Calm Spirit hard counters Infectious. I use this perk all the time and Infectious means nothing to me. You can tell that it works too because killers that rely on Infectious to find survivors have a very difficult time finding and tracking me. While it also works against Freddy for tracking, it doesn't stop snares from working. And if you are asleep you glow in the dark, which has no counter and makes you extremely visible.

Anything Billy can do, Freddy can do better. The only thing Billy has over Freddy is snowball potential, but that requires some luck and/or mistakes on survivor side to really capitalize. Freddy can easily win without needing to snowball.

I think this was before the Doc update, or maybe just after. I would probably rank him higher now, though he would still be B tier.

Remember a tier list is a ranking of characters based on comparable potential strength. Putting a killer in B tier does not mean they are weak, it means they are weaker than the characters above them. And the difference between one tier and the next suggests a distinct gap in potential strength, while the difference within a tier suggests a minor but still measurable gap in potential strength. So Ghostface is clearly superior to Myers despite them effectively being ranked one after the other, but then Billy is only slightly better than Huntress as they are within the same tier. Myers does not have the same potential as Ghostface, but Huntress DOES have the same potential as Billy, just Billy is still measurably superior.

I don't disagree with your Hag assessment there, again she is a strong killer. Just definitely not stronger than anyone I put above her. That's what people really need to understand about what a true tier list is. Hag is very very strong. But Freddy and Billy are measurably stronger. Billy has more snowball potential than Hag and it requires far less set up. Freddy isn't a snowballing killer, but he has very very high map pressure and chase potential, much more than Hag. Of course, you can up Hag's pressure with Mint Rag, but then I can up Freddy's pressure with Paint Brush and Swing Chains. Hag is very dependent on survivors coming to her. Freddy can play offensively or defensively, and he doesn't require any setup. All 3 killers can consistently 4k at high ranks, but of the 3 Freddy is just more effective and requires the least amount of effort to play at that level.

Eh, you can force Billy to m1 on any jungle gym tile if you path right. The best he can hope for is that the loop gets cut short and he gets a quick pallet break. Freddy can counter any loop with snares and your pathing is kind of irrelevant. He can also cut the loop shorter than Billy and more consistently with less effort.

Sorry I just don't see Billy as being nearly as strong as Freddy. Freddy has clear advantages over Billy and less counter play options.

I'm also curious to hear this build you keep mentioning, because I can guarantee that Freddy would be stronger with just BBQ, Pop, and Jump Rope. Those 3 items alone put Freddy above almost the entire killer cast regardless of what builds they run.