Why is DC tech still a thing?

I hate hatch as much as you do but honestly taking out hatch would be dumb if its the last survivor taking it put would be dumb. But in your situation that if a survivor dc so there teammate can get hatch is also dumb they shouldn't get rewarded for a dc just ######### on hook. But they don't need to take hatch out the game completely.

Hatch is here to stay and it's just a disconnect in a specific situation working like any other disconnect.

It's better and actually has a non-zero chance of ever being done to change how DCs themselves work. They should work as if the survivor died on a hook in all ways, including the hatch not opening instantly but instead being delayed by as long as it takes for someone to go through the sacrifice animation.

I personally like the idea of people that DC simply being teleported to a basement hook and the sacrifice animation starting, honestly 😄

And logically, you get 7,000 points for entering a hatch. 5000 survival and 2000 objective.

If a survivor who had earned 15000 points before the end game, receives zero points instead, then your team is at a net loss.

I play with friends. We never disconnect.

People DC for a multitude of reasons in any game. Most of them aren't justifiable, as they're not irl emergencies or a person being held hostage or whatever.

I'm just going to comment here that if you're regularly slugging the second to last survivor when you don't have any idea of where the last one is, people aren't DCing to give the other person hatch, they just don't want to wait on the ground until they bleed out. I'm not saying that's justifiable either, it's just a comment.

That's what he's talking about...

If there is no feasible way for me to escape or way for end game collapse to start, what stops me from crouching around the map for half an hour?

sux to sux

Let's be honest they take hatch out survivor mains gonna lose there brains then devs will just bring them right back unfortunately hatch will never be out but I also think that if u kill 3 survivors and by chance no gens was completed they shouldn't get rewarded for free escape they didn't do anything but I do understand if at least most gens was completed.

The game lacks of a way to handle 1v1 when you have killed the rest of the survivor team.This is not a team-based game, it's better to cooperate but it's not like football that if you win your teammates win. Each individual player has it's own win condition, and hatch exists to grant that win scenario if a survivor remains in the trial alone. This is a separate thing from keys mechanics when you can open it before it's intended to open.

If you remove hatch from the game a lot of people (me included) will DC or give up after 2-3 people are down/hooked, because there are certain scenarios when you just can't be altruistic. It wouldn't be fun for survivors. I don't know about you, but i prefer to win against 4 people trying that winning against 2 people trying and 2 giving up. Also when people give up games are too quick to be enjoyable because the game can end fast when they die on hook.

The situation that you are using as your main point to explain why hatch should be removed is just a weird/edge interaction that doesn't happen often. I have played against a lot of survivors in all ranks and I don't remember being upset with that. As Killer I always look for the hatch, where it is and if someone have spotted it. Also patrolng near the hatch when you have been missing a survivor for too much time it's a good idea too. Or prioritize generators near the hatch so you can patrol the same area. Also you can injure people so you can grab them as they are escaping through hatch.

You cant grab out of hatch. For like 6 months or a year now.

That was changed when killers were finally able to close it.

Both changed to stop standoffs. If they could grab you, you'd just take a hit first, because they cant close it.

If they can close it AND grab you, theres almost zero chance, and theyd just sit and watch while you ddo gens.

So killers can close it if you're not fast enough, but they cannot grab you out of it anymore.

Just because you've killed three people, doesn't mean you're entitled to kill the 4th. People need to stop acting like this game owes them anything. Games can never feel hopeless at any point for either side, if the outcome is predetermined at a certain point then there is no incentive to continue. That would simply encourage disconnects even more so. A lot of Killers think a 4K should be in the bag after they've killed three people but with that line of thinking, should an escape be guaranteed when the survivors have completed four generators?

There are plenty of toxic things that are justly complained about in this community, "sux to sux" isn't one of them. Your skin is so thin I can see through it bro.

You see a hatch as a pity escape. I see escape doors being so close together as pity kills. I doubt there is any reason either of us is going to give that the other would agree is obvious.

They should turn the survivor that DC's into a bot.

Here's what happens when you remove hatch entirely from the game.

End Game Collapse cannot start until either the hatch is closed or until a single exit gate is open. So removing the hatch leaves both of you in a cat and mouse game the entire time. And doors tend to spawn pretty close to each other, more often than not. All the killer has to do is patrol a tiny little region of the map and the survivor has to either give up or stand in a corner. Neither parties are obligated to end the game, they are both trying to win. So it's a stalemate forever.

The hatch gives the survivor both a small chance to escape and provides the killer with a means in which to activate the EGC on their terms. I don't think the hatch needs any changes.

The hatch cannot spawn unless survivors complete the amount of generators equal to the amount of survirors alive, plus one. So all five generators must be completed in order for everyone to escape via hatch. And even then you still need a dull key.

Now, if you're complaining about not being given a 4k, as much as the pip system is trying to tell you no, you've already won. Killers shouldn't expect 4k every game. Survivors shouldn't expect 4 escapes every game, let alone themselves. It's how the game works. Sometimes you get 4k, sometimes you get none. Sometimes you close the hatch, sometimes they have a key anyways. They should not be punished because you expect to kill them when they came prepared.

I feel like a lot of these arguments are coming from one-sided players. Players who only play survivor, or players who only play killer. They don't understand the other side of the problem because they only see one side of the problem.