Campers
Hey all,
I use to be a killer main until I kept getting disconnected on almost right away in every match. So I became a survivor to see what the issue was.
Campers/Tunnelers. Now my question is why in the world as a killer would you camp/tunnel? The blood points suck if you play like that and if you are someone who face camps etc you are the reason why the disconnect penalty came into play.
So if a person on here who camps and thinks it’s the cool thing to do explain to me why you feel the need to enact that strategy and why do you have to grief the survivors you’ve already hooked?
I don’t understand because when I was a killer I preferred the getting bloodpoints and ruthless nods from the entity. So help me understand why a crutch like that is needed.
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If it's rank 20-15 then... most likely because they don't really know what else to do. The game doesn't really explain that and just says "eliminate survivors". So by logic, making sure one is eliminated is good, right?
If higher because they just want to.
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To say there isn’t a way to stop it is just ignorance. They have perks that can activate like Steve Harrington’s perk if you are in the struggle phase the timer stops if another survivor is nearby. So why not use those mechanics to note when a Killer stays witihin let’s say 16m (the kindred Max) then they start losing bloodpoints and if they spend too much time in that radius then they start losing pips.
Tunneling yes you are right because there’s a lot of definitions but camping is as straight forward as it gets
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But my question is more for the killers that employ this tactic. I appreciate the opinions on why they do but I want to hear the reasoning from them to help me better understand why they need a crutch like that to play
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The Devs tried to implement a mechanic that would make the hooked Survivor die more slowly if the Killer was in a 16m radius of the Hook. However, it was being abused, so they stepped back and removed it.
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its only for 34 seconds though so it still wont do much
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as a killer main (legion, not proud) there is one reason why SOME people that camp do this strat you call a crutch, i call a trade, this is a thing i do by hooking, watching and when someone saves them, i hit the savior, then let them go as an reward, i guess. Sorry, but games are unfair and it's hard to get lucky with ranks, and i play a tax play style, it's balanced, fair, and it gives people some chance.
The other reason is that i lose any hope of happyness, and i just want to have the satisfaction of at least getting people down slowly, because i am so mad that they did not make legion able to act like a survivor. :(
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Reading your post, this might turn into a definition argument. There are situations and context that can cause reactions in certain players. The question gives the impression that it might not have been called for, when it definitely could be.
I’ve been called camper and 4k with 28k+ blood points. Returning to a hook, because you know there are two survivors there is just using your brain. Unhooking near a killer who recently hooked the survivor is not using your brain (it’s actually called farming another player). Healing under hook as a killer comes back and expecting a pass is not using your brain. My point here is sometimes players make bad plays and when the killer takes advantage of mistakes, they’re called names.
I would agree face camping is not a fun strategy for either side and discourage it, if that’s what you mean.
I need to point out that you contradict yourself in your post, OP: survivors were DC’ing early in your killer matches, you investigated why, it was camping, then you say you don’t play a camping strategy because you prefer blood points and pipping.
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I tunnel and camp. But only in matches where i am fastly outskilled by survivors. I am ranked in the middle as killer, usually around 12-8 (i am a survivor 70% of the time, but play both sides anyway), and i am constantly matched against at least 2 red ranks, and 4 red ranks are not uncommon. They are way better in chases than me (because even as survivor, i like the game more like a hide and seek, and end my chases quickly by juking the killer), and when i get them, the game is often over. Yes, camping and tunneling then have even led to 4k, because when survivor know you are not on their skill level, they get cocky.
If i am paired against survivors of equal or lower skill, i dont employ such tactics, because i dont have the constant feeling of being helpless. Also, they are not permanently teabagging like a lot of red ranks do. I dont mind winning or losing then, because i have the feeling i can actually do something in the game.
And i belive thats a problem of many killers. Fix matchmaking, and it might turn out better.
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How about you let them do what they want? If a killer camps, do gens and get the hell out.
If a killer tunnels, that's fine cause he's going after the easier target. If you get tunneled, that's your teammates fault, cause they don't protect you and f c k you over.
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Camping is essentially a killer shooting themselves in both knees with a 12 gauge shotgun. You lose out on pretty much all points, and just to secure one measly kill.
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When playing Legion, I do the same thing....kinda. I like to frenzy and deep wound the guy off the hook, and then splash my damage around. If nobody else is near, I make sure to wound, then chase, the savior.
The guy off the hook still has a chance with this approach, but I still get to maintain some pressure as well.
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I thought you did lose bloodpoints when staying in close proximity to a hooked player.
The whole camping/tunneling debate is murky. Some survivors say a killer is camping or tunneling when they aren't. Most camping is done when low skill survivors just blindly go for rescues. This is also what leads to a lot of the tunneling because the rescue was not a safe one and the killer simply goes after an injured target.
Face-camping is a different issue. I see a lot of people claiming that it happens all of the time, but I have never been face-camped, so I don't believe that it happens nearly as frequently as some people claim. I have had my hook camped several times by killers hoping to get easy downs on rescuers, but that is not the same thing. Plus, I always run Kindred. I think camping is lazy and stupid. It is a horrible strategy against even mildly decent survivors.
That said, as a killer, i have been accused of camping and/or tunneling, when i did neither. I always leave the area of the hook immediately, but if scratch marks lead me back to the hook, that is not my problem. If your teammates go for an unsafe unhook, blame them, not the killer.
If the killer is face-camping, they are doing it for other reasons than bloodpoints, so they likely don't care about penalties. Other campers can be made to pay my not going for careless rescue attempts and finish the gens. Eventually they will learn that it is a bad strategy.
I do think that they should give hooked survivors more bloodpoints for staying on the hook and not suiciding or DC'ing. While they are not contributing enough to modify their rank points, they are still contributing to the team by distracting the killer for a prolonged period of time.
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