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Why all survivors are... humans?
I know, you were thinking this would be another "all survivors players are [insert complain]"
BUT NO
It was me!
Back to the topic. Killers have Demogorgon but survivors doesn't have anything like that. The most near is one of them to not be human is Ash because of his arm, nothing impressive tho.
I don't know if the devs have talked about this so any information it's appreciated.
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Next chapter brings Cujo as killer and Lassie as survivor
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What else would they be, though? Ash is still human. He just had to cut his hand off with a chainsaw when it got "corrupted".
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I like this way of thinking but perhaps it wouldn't fit in the lore and in the game to have non-human survivors.
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Maybe aliens, or some kind of animal, android or robot. I think a lot of players would pick a monkey if they could.
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You want Furries?
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They could be like human. I think humanoids can work, like other races can.
Which part of the (i think is a bit inconsistent for what i have read) lore is problematic? The entity enjoys to see how hope evaporates in his realm, but iirc it doesn't have to be human hope.
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Why would "survivors" not be humans? I thought that's the point, that they're still humans and trying to survive
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Now I really want a robot survivor/killer from the future. (entity is able to pull from all different times after all)
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Actually, if you read the lore in the times, it mentions that the entity takes from many realms, not just "ours"... So why not a survivor that isn't human?
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Have you read the tomes? Did you look up the lore released during the Hallowed Blight event in 2018?
You should. It is mentioned that the entity takes from many realms, not just Earth's realms.. so how would it not follow lore if there was an "alien" survivor?
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To be fair. Demo is from another dimension where Humans don't naturally exist so...
And the Devs have mentioned that they want Survivor perks to be realistic and not "magical"... so they wouldn't be able to create any perks for an animal or other creature that weren't something a human could do
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I always exclude licensed characters from lore discussions, because I feel like they were picked up as exciting opportunities to bring a cool character to the game, rather than for lore purposes.
With that in mind, all original characters in the game are human. It makes sense as the entity feeds on hope, and humans are complex beings who can still have hope even in the darkest times. We live to actually live, not just survive. So from the entity's view, it can feed on that hope and all the emotions that come with it. There's not that same dynamic with a beast-like creature, or magical/alien characters.
As far as practicality goes, having human survivors fit with storytelling. Someone will relate to them and all their struggles. Not that this couldn't be done with a non-Earthling kind of character, but it makes it feel real, and fits with the classic horror tropes that the game's foundation is built upon.
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Well, see it like this. Why were Scrappy Doo from Scooby Doo and Great Gazoo from The Flintstones disliked? They were so out of place and ruined the flow of their shows. Imagine getting an alien-like Survivor to a game with a more mystic-macabre theme, or a full on android Survivor. It just doesnt fit. A human survivor from the future? Thats a different story (which they stated they will avoid adding for the time being), and thats pushing it.
An alien Killer, on the other hand, might work, as long as its like a Xenomorph. Fully organic, beast-like body while retaining the humanoid shape (for technical reasons). Which is why Demodoggo fits; a wild beast, which you often ignore its multi-dimensional origins. Stuff like Predator, who rely on weaponry and not force (though they are strong, but theres no Predator without gadgets), that wouldnt fit.
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Well if we're talking about something like aliens or androids, there's several things that wouldn't work with that. Lore-wise maybe it's possible, but it would be weird to me seeing Hag mori an android/robot survivor. What would she pull out? A spleen? Would she pull out and eat scraps of metal? What about Plague, how would her sickness affect a robotic survivor? Or Clown's gas?
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The concept can be anthropomorphic but non-human. I think perks aren't a problem tho, just don't put somehing weird and problem solved.
As licensed characters It could be a opotunity to bring characters to the game like a cartoon-version humanoid like "Shaggy" although I prefer something totally diferent like beast (Dogs or monkeys i think they could fit "Scooby Doo" both have human-like emotions) Also they could affect mechanics or be just simply cosmetic, it shouldn't be too hard for beast survivors to work exclusively on side objectives: totems, chests, wasting killer time... It could be even fun to see a dog helping you out of the hook by position himself under your feet to let you escape without problems.
I know that the game is focused on create a game based on classic slasher movies. But also i feel that i can't relate to the human characters because their situations are almost the same for everyone and because in a horror situation when a killer is trying to kill me I don't really care about who they are.
I think that it's difficult to choose a non-human character and design it to fit in the game but I also think that there are part of the horror spectrum that it's forgotten and could be adapted.
Look for example in the horror-comedy movie Gremlins (I know comedy could mess things up but it could be worked around). In that film there is one "survivor" that is not human, the original Mogwai "Gizmo" that help to stop the other gremlins but in a different way humans do. This proves that the horror trope is flexible enough to fit non human beings in it. I would appreciate a better example because It should exist one that doesn't involve so much comedy as Gremlins but I am not that fan of horror movies.
I agree that some creatures could have weird interactions that's why It shouldn't be a rushed release but a slow one with a lot of thinking invested on it. I used beasts/robots/aliens as examples but i think it's not limited only at that three, it could be some good zombie/ghost as the entity controls death and life in its realm, or even magic creatures (these maybe don't fit really well).
In a few words I feel survivors are not that unique as killers are. That's sad. They are just cosmetics, the unique things they have are sound volumes and heights...
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(I had to Google Gremlins and Gizmo because its been decades since I last watched it, may get something wrong)
In that sense, Gizmo is an aid character and thats it. In our DbD version, that would be Benedict Baker or the Bloodweb itself (if it was a character). Overall, the idea of a non-human aid character MAY work, like an animal or multidimensional being. But still no alien or android. However, main (Survivor) characters in this setting should always be human.
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Well think of it like this. Legion is supposed to be the killer who looks like a survivor. Same body size, same walk animation, but something's off. I think Legion would actually work a lot better if they had a "disguise mode" that made their character look like one of the 4 survivors in the room.
But I'm getting off track. So killers are generally supposed to look like killers. Legion is thematically and conceptually the only one that breaks that. But it can't work the other way around, because all killers are different. The survivors generally look the same, they're all humans, they all have more or less the same character model, and they're easy to spot at a glance. Look to my left, a meg using urban immersion across the hall, sweet
weI might make it. Look to my right, massive hulking dude with a mask and a knife staring at me from across the hall, I need to run and change my pants.Now, if we had an "alien" survivor, how would it work? Would it be bipedal? Have the same character model as the humans? If it's basically a human, why have the distinction at all? They are for all intents and purposes human survivors. Anything too different from the other survivors and the killer would basically have an easy time finding them.
But if they're going to make an Alien Chapter I really hope we get Ripley and Bishop as our survivors.
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An Alien chapter with Xenomorph and Bishop incoming?
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Who else to you expect to see repairing a generator? A chimpanzee?
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Yes. UwU
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Such a weird question. If not a human then what? A talking cow? Spongebob? A robot? Nothing besides humans makes any remote kind of sense.
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because a dog doing a gen really shows the horror aspect or even slight realism. a survivor could have a bionic feature like a replaced limb but other than that they should remain human, its the point of the game...
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If they did a robot survivor they could make it bleed oil instead of blood.
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I mean, I came up with a vampiric survivor concept once. But I think they keep it limited to humans because it would be more relatable in the horror setting they want to establish. Unfortunately for them, the devs messed up that part, because survivor hardly feels horrifying to play.
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Even though it's not a human the demogorgon is still humanoid so it's not like it's completely different
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That's a really good answer
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