Escaping the Hook
It's 100% unfair that the survivor doesn't get a chance at surviving when they are the last one. There have been so many times when 3 survivors die or dc leaving the 1 survivor that I haven't even hooked yet. I down them, hook them, I expect for them to get off of the hook... but they die instantly.
Survivors should ALWAYS have the chance to attempt escape, no matter how many survivors are left.
Now don't even complain about "But if they don't struggle at all, that'll make me a victim of a hostage situation." GROW UP. Go make a Hot-Pocket or something, you're not a victim.
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I agree with you. It feels weird to be hooked, full life, being the last one standing and not being able to try an escape attempt.BigBadPiggy said:It's 100% unfair that the survivor doesn't get a chance at surviving when they are the last one. There have been so many times when 3 survivors die or dc leaving the 1 survivor that I haven't even hooked yet. I down them, hook them, I expect for them to get off of the hook... but they die instantly.
Survivors should ALWAYS have the chance to attempt escape, no matter how many survivors are left.
Now don't even complain about "But if they don't struggle at all, that'll make me a victim of a hostage situation." GROW UP. Go make a Hot-Pocket or something, you're not a victim.
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lmfao.BigBadPiggy said:GROW UP. Go make a Hot-Pocket or something, you're not a victim.
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Excuse me? I'll make myself a Lean-Pocket, thank you. How dare you, sir. How DARE you!1
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I mean, if the last survivor was able to kobe killer would just stay there to down you again. Your fate would be the same one, the only difference would be those extra BPs.3
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the killer would just down you again, it's there to not waste people's time
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If they haven't been hooked, yea I don't have a problem with them getting their couple chances of escape or struggle points. It's kind of whatever though because it's not really that big of a deal TBH.
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It's pointless. The Killer has nothing to do except hit them and put them on the hook again.
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So they killer can watch you struggle for 2 minutes. While you try to get that last struggle point...
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@BigBadPiggy said:
It's 100% unfair that the survivor doesn't get a chance at surviving when they are the last one. There have been so many times when 3 survivors die or dc leaving the 1 survivor that I haven't even hooked yet. I down them, hook them, I expect for them to get off of the hook... but they die instantly.Survivors should ALWAYS have the chance to attempt escape, no matter how many survivors are left.
Now don't even complain about "But if they don't struggle at all, that'll make me a victim of a hostage situation." GROW UP. Go make a Hot-Pocket or something, you're not a victim.
What a crappy BS idea… why should you waste everybodies time?
If you are the last, the killer can wait beside the hook anyway, so what is the purpose in this?And the calling that survivor should ALWAYS have a chance, shows you biased entitlement.
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I actually get a little upset that you don't get the struggle points you normally would. That's not an insignificant chunk of Bloodpoints you get denied being the last hook.
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It instantly kills the last person to save time. Otherwise it would be literally 2 minutes of waiting, if it was the first hook. And if the last survivor even had the possiblity of escaping the hook, the killers would always just wait to see if they do.
Now, I believe that the last survivor should get 900 or so bloodpoints for being the last one and acting as a replacement for the potential struggle points, but making the killer/survivor sit through up to a full 2 minutes for that is just silly.
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@BigBadPiggy said:
It's 100% unfair that the survivor doesn't get a chance at surviving when they are the last one. There have been so many times when 3 survivors die or dc leaving the 1 survivor that I haven't even hooked yet. I down them, hook them, I expect for them to get off of the hook... but they die instantly.Survivors should ALWAYS have the chance to attempt escape, no matter how many survivors are left.
Now don't even complain about "But if they don't struggle at all, that'll make me a victim of a hostage situation." GROW UP. Go make a Hot-Pocket or something, you're not a victim.
The reason why the last survivor is insta killed on hook is that they cant force the killer to wait until he dies.
Since the devs increased the time of the hook stages, that is actualyl a considerable amount of time.
You wont escape the hook anyway because the killer is waiting in front of you to die^^0 -
Game's over, you lost. It's the developers telling you you're not allowed to escape from already having lost.
Besides, 97.2% of the Killers would be there to slap you right back into the Dying state if you do manage to escape.
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@BigBadPiggy said:
It's 100% unfair that the survivor doesn't get a chance at surviving when they are the last one. a chance to troll the killer one last time while growing up and making hot pockets.3 -
Even if you 4% the killer is standing right next to the hook.. because you know... youre the last one left. You will get downed instantly again
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Would be stupid to give the survivor an unhook Attempt, you would be downed immediately. Making the killer wait until you die simply because why not is simply unneccessary. But, like others have already said, give the survivor the struggle points he would normally get. I seriously can't understand why they haven't implemented that.0
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@BigBadPiggy said:
It's 100% unfair that the survivor doesn't get a chance at surviving when they are the last one. There have been so many times when 3 survivors die or dc leaving the 1 survivor that I haven't even hooked yet. I down them, hook them, I expect for them to get off of the hook... but they die instantly.Survivors should ALWAYS have the chance to attempt escape, no matter how many survivors are left.
Now don't even complain about "But if they don't struggle at all, that'll make me a victim of a hostage situation." GROW UP. Go make a Hot-Pocket or something, you're not a victim.
That is not true. You obviously haven't played the game enough you'll have a few seconds after the previous survivor dies. I hooked a last survivor once and took off thinking she'll die but she got off the hook and jumped into the hatch. And if what's the point if the killer's just gonna smack you and put you back on again? You are just wasting time. Game over.
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@HellDescent said:
@BigBadPiggy said:
It's 100% unfair that the survivor doesn't get a chance at surviving when they are the last one. There have been so many times when 3 survivors die or dc leaving the 1 survivor that I haven't even hooked yet. I down them, hook them, I expect for them to get off of the hook... but they die instantly.Survivors should ALWAYS have the chance to attempt escape, no matter how many survivors are left.
Now don't even complain about "But if they don't struggle at all, that'll make me a victim of a hostage situation." GROW UP. Go make a Hot-Pocket or something, you're not a victim.
That is not true. I hooked a last survivor once and took off thinking she'll die but she got off the hook and jumped into the hatch.
I found your problem (in bold).
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Lol they do have a chance to survive: dont get found0
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No? Pointless.
EVEN IF they did kobe what does that give them? 1,5k Points yay. But they die 0.1 sec after
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Agreed. If last survivor has yet to be hooked, they should be allowed to attempt their escape. If they fail, they automatically get sacrificed rather than struggle. If they succeed, they get something similar to borrowed time where they are immune to damage for a few seconds (because we already know that killers will be camping the hook at this point).
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@Vietfox said:
I mean, if the last survivor was able to kobe killer would just stay there to down you again. Your fate would be the same one, the only difference would be those extra BPs.The devs are fixing that in the update, you won't be able to be downed until you have control of your character. Plus they are making the animation of unhooking yourself shorter.
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@Wolf74 said:
@BigBadPiggy said:
It's 100% unfair that the survivor doesn't get a chance at surviving when they are the last one. There have been so many times when 3 survivors die or dc leaving the 1 survivor that I haven't even hooked yet. I down them, hook them, I expect for them to get off of the hook... but they die instantly.Survivors should ALWAYS have the chance to attempt escape, no matter how many survivors are left.
Now don't even complain about "But if they don't struggle at all, that'll make me a victim of a hostage situation." GROW UP. Go make a Hot-Pocket or something, you're not a victim.
What a crappy BS idea… why should you waste everybodies time?
If you are the last, the killer can wait beside the hook anyway, so what is the purpose in this?And the calling that survivor should ALWAYS have a chance, shows you biased entitlement.
I main killer. It's not biased when you see something that's unfair for the other team.
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@Nick said:
Even if you 4% the killer is standing right next to the hook.. because you know... youre the last one left. You will get downed instantly againThe devs are fixing that in the update. You won't be able to be downed until you have control of your character as well as the animation for unhooking yourself will be made shorter.
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Doesn't matter, killer would wait for the animation and hit you as soon as it ends.BigBadPiggy said:@Vietfox said:
I mean, if the last survivor was able to kobe killer would just stay there to down you again. Your fate would be the same one, the only difference would be those extra BPs.The devs are fixing that in the update, you won't be able to be downed until you have control of your character. Plus they are making the animation of unhooking yourself shorter.
Unless there's a hatch right in front of that hook you'll die no matter what you do xD0 -
@Vietfox said:
BigBadPiggy said:@Vietfox said:
I mean, if the last survivor was able to kobe killer would just stay there to down you again. Your fate would be the same one, the only difference would be those extra BPs.
The devs are fixing that in the update, you won't be able to be downed until you have control of your character. Plus they are making the animation of unhooking yourself shorter.
Doesn't matter, killer would wait for the animation and hit you as soon as it ends.
Unless there's a hatch right in front of that hook you'll die no matter what you do xDThe devs could always add a few invincibility frames or a mini sprint burst. I don't think it would be that hard to add something so the survivor isn't downed immediately after they unhook themselves.
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Mini SB won't really help and for the invincibility thing killers would just need to time the hit.BigBadPiggy said:@Vietfox said:
BigBadPiggy said:@Vietfox said:
I mean, if the last survivor was able to kobe killer would just stay there to down you again. Your fate would be the same one, the only difference would be those extra BPs.
The devs are fixing that in the update, you won't be able to be downed until you have control of your character. Plus they are making the animation of unhooking yourself shorter.
Doesn't matter, killer would wait for the animation and hit you as soon as it ends.
Unless there's a hatch right in front of that hook you'll die no matter what you do xDThe devs could always add a few invincibility frames or a mini sprint burst. I don't think it would be that hard to add something so the survivor isn't downed immediately after they unhook themselves.
Also adding those features would make some killers mad and i would have to deal with more comments like "survivor is so ez, i can mow the lawn while playing and get the 5 gens done".
I think it's ok the way it is right now.1 -
@BigBadPiggy said:
The devs could always add a few invincibility frames or a mini sprint burst. I don't think it would be that hard to add something so the survivor isn't downed immediately after they unhook themselves.
And tell me WHY do you think the survivor deserve this?
Or have any right to ask for this?0 -
I agree it can be unfair, but it's done that way to not waste time. First, if the survivor gets off the hook I doubt many killers would let them go, they would just down them and put them back on the hook immediately. Second, if they never struggle you will just sit there for 2 minutes while they die, just another way to troll a killer.
The only thing I think needs to happen is that if you are the last alive and get hooked, and it's your first hook and you die immediately, you should get a bonus 1000 BP in survival. That would make the whole thing more fair to that survivor without just being a waste of time.
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or theyll just wait out the 2 minutes on hook time as a way of saying fuk you.
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@BigBadPiggy said:
It's 100% unfair that the survivor doesn't get a chance at surviving when they are the last one. There have been so many times when 3 survivors die or dc leaving the 1 survivor that I haven't even hooked yet. I down them, hook them, I expect for them to get off of the hook... but they die instantly.Survivors should ALWAYS have the chance to attempt escape, no matter how many survivors are left.
Now don't even complain about "But if they don't struggle at all, that'll make me a victim of a hostage situation." GROW UP. Go make a Hot-Pocket or something, you're not a victim.
I feel this would lead immediately to an "injured chase". If the 2 gens aren't done, they can't even attempt hatch....which forces them to "hide super effectively", and aim at finishing said gens to even attempt escape.
(In the scenario the devs talked about in the last Q & A, this would immediately open the exit gates, and cause a mad dash/hiding run toward one of the doors. In the case of everyone else disconnecting....this would equate to a fairly fast game usually.)
I've gotten used to each game taking 20-45 mins a session.(With the occasional 5-10 mins thrown in.)
Throwing in the ability to allow the last survivor to attempt salvation would increase the game by aprox 20 mins max in the current form.....and about 1-5 mins aprox in the scenario the devs proposed.
It should be tested, but I don't know how well it will hold up. It would cause mental frustration on either the survivor or killer side. (It would literally effect the players sense of hope and despair, beyond merely the games intent....)
LOL....a perfect time to suggest a sanity/fear system.
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The reason why is because they don't want one survivor sitting on a hook for 3 mins for no reason if no one can save them off the hook.
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To avoid having them hang there doing nothing... instead of the normal attempt escape prompt they can be faced with a small skill check similar to that of DS.
Miss the skill check = sacrifice
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Just giving the last Survivor 900 points would be enough, nothing else needs to change.
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Dude no one, and I mean no one respects the 4%0
