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Can we please do something about hatch 'tech?'
Not only did I have to deal with the god loop in Rancid Abattor AND a SWF, but then I had the dcing for the hatch. Black pipped, though I would have pipped with one more hook. Didn't the devs say something about husks or something when somebody dc's? I know the dc timers were put in place for this, but it doesn't seem to have done anything.
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You got DC'd on one time and suddenly the penalty hasn't made any difference? LOL right.
Maybe don't slug to 4k and they won't DC for hatch. 🤷
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Not one time, just the latest. This one simply stood out more because I was actually enjoying the match, at least when I could keep them away from the god loop. And no, wasn't slugged for that 4k. They were simply hitting the god loop over and over by that point. Finally had them both together, so only one could get through the window. Which is when the second dc'ed.
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I don't think this is a big deal.
Laugh at how sweaty they got for the 1 Escape and move on. You can get your pip/4k another game if you really want it and this one instance of doesn't make DC penalties pointless.
That said, I also don't see any harm with adding a short timer between a DC and Hatch opening to prevent situations like this.
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It’s one escape. I mean.... talk about survivors being privileged this sounds pretty privileged thinking you deserve all 4K. I just Got into an argument with my friend over this and we want to enjoy the game together but we have opposing views on this game. I don’t think anyone has a right to anything in this game. You gotta think about it from a solo perspective too. I can’t be responsible for my other 3 teammates so I don’t know why there wouldn’t be an alternate escape if I did really well but my teammates got their butts kicked leaving the last guy to do 2/3/4/5 gens. That’s not fun nor is it possible. Ppl don’t like the idea of slugging the 3rd guy so 4th guy doesn’t escape well... Maybe rework the key so it spawns in a random chest every game but can only be used if your last alive or once all gens are done? And keep the hatch closed the whole game? They need to get rid of Mori’s. I don’t understand why survivors aren’t allowed to enjoy the game too. By enjoy the game I mean do more than hold down one button the entire game to escape. And here killers get to stay in the entire game racking up 20-30K bloodpoints every game going on chases, sweating balls, I don’t think the games slow enough tbh. And you can blame that on Mori’s and gen speed. Keys not really. Survivors still have to do all the work. Also killers walk around the map a lot so they can find hatch easily. Possibly before the last survivor does and just hook the 3rd guy near it. I’m pretty sure killers can stomp on the hatch before survivors get the prompt to exit through it (happens every time I’m standing on hatch with the killer he gets to stomp on it but I never get to hop in)
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Oooh a plague 😃 that’s my boo though. I love playing that killer she’s so much fun. Not the greatest - not top tier, but she’s fun.
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Don’t slug for hatch and waste everyone’s time
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No sympathy for playing the most toxic killer in the game.. The simple fact that a killer like Plague can completely remove an entire category from the game exists is a detriment to the game. Killers complain about gen rushing, yet have no problem playing a killer that completely removes healing from the game.
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Maybe survivors should lose with class. What a concept?
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he took a penalty to lose all of his points and give someone else an extra 7K this is likely the only game in the day he'll do it, who cares lmfao
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Some of these comments justifying DCing are great, the "playing plague is toxic" is my personal favourite so far but I'm optimistic about the possibility of reading something even more idiotic.
I don't like slugging for 4k but you generally have to get all 4 as plague if you want anything more than a black pip, so there's that.
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You could also go the other way and just say that the hatch should be removed so slugging for the 4k isn't a thing anymore.
Tbh with the DC penalty, I don't find it too big of a deal anymore. Yes DC'ing for the hatch is actually a stupid mechanic, but at least they get somewhat punished for it now. I'm not sure what else they can do either without it causing other problems.
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You do something once your more likely to do when ever it suits them. Survivors tell killers how they want them to play and will dc if they feel wrong. Sorry for being someone who has some dignity to play something till the end even if it's not going well. Lol.
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The timer gets longer, I highly doubt he's going to continue doing it to give someone 7K, the more he does it, the less he gets to play.
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Slugging to 4k is lazy and cheap. The last survivor didn't lose. They just get ######### over. The entire end game of a match is already stacked against a solo survivor. If you are so petty you have to slug because, despite your increased movement speed and ability to freely traverse the map, you are that terrified of losing one survivor through the hatch, you should probably reevaluate your life and the things that bring you joy in the world. 😂
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I don't get it either, it's like when people assume any killer that did something considered toxic is in the right because "clearly the survivor(s) started it", but on the other end of the assumption spectrum. Some people are just dicks, sore losers and so on.
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I personally would prefer old hatch back. The test of wills was fun IMO.
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Lmao. You know that cleansing is a thing, right? It isn't toxic at all if you as a survivor decide not to cleanse. And before you say "but she gets stronger if survivors cleanse", i know that but there's that risk/reward thing that makes Plague fun to play as a killer and fun to play against as a survivor.
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AHAHAHHHA You can’t slug for the 4 kill because it justifies the survivors to do BANNABLE offense. That makes soo much sense really. I just hope DCers get a longer ban over time starting from at least an hour.
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Haha...no thanks! The days of staring down my opponent at the hatch and waiting to see who got bored faster are hopefully gone forever.
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lol I bet you’re one of those survivor mains who says it’s “slugging for the 4K” when the killer knocks down a guy and the other guy is right there standing with a flashlight tea bagging and when the killer chases after you, you scream in end game chat that he has no skill for slugging for the 4K.
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Slugging to 4k is....playing the game. Next are we going to say they were kill rushing? Lmao. Keep trying to justify your own ######### behaviour.
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Dont slug for the 4k or else survivors are going to do something bannable. Dont "slug" a meta literally made for the game(if you dont believe me look at knockout) or people are gonna do something they're not supposed to. If were gonna go by that logic. Dont be 4 toolboxes or I'll bring an ebony🤷♀️. Dont go in a locker with decisive active or I'll mori you off first hook. Dont use loops and I won't use iridescent and infantry. Toxicity goes both ways. And if you dont think the killer should be able to play the game he wants so you can have an easier time then go play something else please. Is every post you make this toxic and entitled?
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Survivors defending DC tech is the same as if Killers would defend lagswitching if the game is "unfun" for them.
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What are you even on dude? Plague isn't even toxic in the slightest. Billy is way worse when the player knows how to use his chainsaw. Matches can be over in 5 minutes.
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The only way Plague could be considered toxic is for her power being literally a toxic puke, and even that is a bit of a stretch.
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"The game isn't slow enough" try owning the last 3 gens because the survivors F'd themselves on which ones they finished and now there are 2 Neas with Urban Immersion and medkits doing F@#$ all -.- A quick 15 minute game I was dominating turned into a 40 minute hunt for 2 people.
Survivors have plenty of fun being toxic and such, it's not just about holding one button. You can also play survivor with your friends, I cannot play killer with a friend. You say remove mori which I agree with but not keys? Killers may move around the map a lot but so do survivors. SWF will easily communicate where hatch is as well. Also, if the hatch hasn't spawned yet (by gen progression that is) then by the time it opens for the last survivor, 9/10 it practically spawns on them... Hatch escapes on the final guy are so common it stopped bothering me a long time ago o_o
That first bit about being "privileged" is also a bit... questionable? I guess. The killer role in DbD is to kill ALL FOUR survivors, that is your only objective while survivors attempt to escape. For anyone to be upset over not getting the 4k is completely reasonable not "privileged". Especially considering a lot of the high rank BS killers deal with mainly in the SWF department, it can be very frustrating. That's fine if you're okay not getting a 4k, hell I'm alright with going even 90% of the time. But, it's undeniable that the 4k always feels so, SO much better
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They did.
It's called a DC Penalty
Stop acting like you're entitled to 4ks each game
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With a DC to guarantee an escape without counterplay who is the one entitled? The Killer trying to kill all 4 by slugging (not a great experience but in the rules) or the Survivor abusing the fact a DC opens the Hatch instantaneously (something that isn't on the rules)?
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Considering the game is based on horror movies like Friday the 13th and Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the ways to win should match the theme. Even though survivor mains feel its "toxic to slug for 4k" it isn't. If a killer is hunting 4 entitled teens, and has two right there, it's only logical to chase the one that runs after the 3 goes down. Dcing is a bannable offense and should not be a legitimate strategy to win. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't actually care to play fair. Tbh I think DC's she just leave the character model standing there so the killer gets a free hook. Remaining survivors can get points off the quitter too. As a killer I'd be more than happy to harvest points from a quitter with the survivors. I might even fake chase them if it wouldn't cost me gens.
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The rules state when the last survivor is left alive the Hatch Opens
Those are the rules. No if, and, or buts.
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I do also think that these scenarios of giving someone the hatch by dcing is not a big deal at all, especially when the killer is slugging for the 4k. But are you seriously calling a killer in this game now toxic? Like, are we seriously at this point where people are now blamed to be toxic for playing a certain killer? Like what the hell? How can a killer that you are allowed to play as in the game be toxic?
Also, you can technically heal against Plague, you just have to use the fountains on a map, instead of healing normally. That's what her design is about. You can heal, and pretty fast, but you give Plague access to her very strong power in return.
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People snap at me because i hate on survivors entitlement way more than killers. But this entire thread is the reson why. "ItS oK To dC bEcAuSe YoU mUsT hAvE sLuGgEd FoR 4k TrAsH kIlLeR bAD" If you DC as second to last kill, and the hatch would normally spawn it should either do one of two things,
1. Not spawn (Unfair for Survivor but more fair for killer)
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2. Carry double the penalty of a normal DC (Unfair for the killer because of niche situations like this, however the increased penalty will help more v cucking)
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Popping that last gen is lazy and cheap. The killer didnt lose. They just got ######### over.
No one is entitled to a win. Everyone is trying to do their objectives as well as possible. Survivors try to escape. Killers try to kill. A killer attempting to do his objective goes from a 3-4k win to a tie because a survivir decided to be a ######### and break rules that are enforced with play time bans is supposed to be ok?
You Dont like being slugged? I get it. But its not cheating its not toxic its not unsportsmanlike. Its a built in part of the game.
The outcry would be even worse if killers constantly dc'd before gates were open.
Yes some do and they should be punished. But unlike dc'ing for hatch, it's not actively encouraged and justified
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Honestly if you slug third survivor for 4k it's extremely sweaty, so don't be surprised if other party is using sweaty tactics as well. I personally think survivor should have option to die in that situation and take their points and move to the next game
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I don't like it but I'm not going to blame a survivor for saying "######### this ######### I'm out" at the end like that.
I don't want to lie there for four minutes when the game is over (especially if it's the last game of the night or something). I get it's a "legit tactic" for the killer to do it but to be blunt, it's a really dumb design that should probably be addressed one day by the devs.
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Well I don't know how this app works put I think this is where you post anyways I thought you meant hatch hatch tech for a killer where you block the hatch and exit gates that reset themselves it's and easy win but it's not big of a deal if they dc or loop you it's your fault and if your that mad then play another game seems like you don't have fun
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"How dare a player complain that the opponent dc's to give their teammates an advantage, or even a free escape!"
Seriously, I find slugging for the 4k super boring, too. Just make the difference in points between a 3k and a 4k irrelevant, and everybody can move on to the next match.
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Imagine thinking slugging which is a viable strategy amounts to dcing which is a exploit by the devs. They exploited and should be banned appropriately. He did nothing wrong he didnt abuse the game.
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Imagine if your team does bad you think you deserve a free escape and then when the killer attempts to deny that you exploit (and yes the devs have called this a exploit so you are cheating) to screw the killer out of a bunch of points and possibly a pip. Like it or not he did nothing wrong sluggings a strategy you have unbreakable and adrenaline. Dcing to give hatch is a exploit. And the rules thing? Well theres 2 survivors alive if im slugging so the hatch doesn't open. Once i kill the other person then itll open ill come over grab the downed person and put them on the hook. I did nothing wrong.
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Nothing is sweaty about doing your objective. The killer have the right to decide whenever the last survivor deserved the hatch or not. (With 5 gens left, there is no way any of the suckers gonna escape). But disconnecting to give your piss poor teammate the hatch, is not a tactic but the most stupid thing ever. Anyone who think that’s fine should seek education.
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Lol depending on the killer its the best way to 4k. Dont wanna get slugged? Bring unbreakable 4head. And i agree i still get people dcing in my games all the time. People who will leave just to deny the killer the extra points towards the pip is a real thing.
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If he kills and downs everyone than i would say hes earned it. Especially on a map with so many absurdly good loops.
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Even without slugging, they still DC to give hatch.
I had a match last week against an over confident SWF. Sacrificed two of them and then started to chase the third. She ran into the corner of the map into a dead area and before I could down her, she DCs. After running around I found the last person on the other side of the map dancing on the hatch.
The claudette purposely led me to a nothing area to DC so her friend gets out? Long live the unsporting behavior in DBD!
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*Justifying DC's intensifies* ... Yikes guys.
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I bet the people in these comments would be fine with 3 survivors escaping with a key at 1 gen left because "stop being so entitled you don't need to 4k every game"
The fact that everyone is saying that is completely atrocious as they try to justify their stupid points.
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Why should we have to play around survivors? This is how it goes everytime and the survivors will always win. The survivors need to learn how to play around the killer for once
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Loser
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Not sure if a husk would help you in this scenario or not. Depends on how fast after the first guy DC'd that the other guy found the hatch. If it was immediate, a husk wouldn't help. But I'm not opposed to killers being allowed to hang a husk.
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Yep been there a few times unfortunately.
I just don't get the kind of behaviour I see on dbd. Im a killer main (because frankly I suck at being a survivor lol) but I don't want to slug just to get 4k, I want to have a fun and exciting game-if it means I don't kill everyone then so be it. Do I slug sometimes? Ofcourse I do, it's a strategy-ill leave someone laying there while I go chase others then come back and hook, i won't knock everyone down-but I don't do it just so I can get 4k. Similarly I don't camp hooks but if I happen to turn round and someone is there then I'm going for whoever I reach first. And when I do play survivor I don't mind when I get slugged, I just think my teammates better come help me quickly, it never crosses my mind to dc. It really saddens me that a game which can be so much fun like dbd sometimes gets cheapened
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Whether you think they "slugged for the 4k" or whatever excuse you have to make to say they deserved it, it's sad to try to justify somebody DCing.
That's exactly why these penalties are in place and aren't going away.
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