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Glad we get punished for getting disconnected unwillingly

I get it, DCing is cold, no one wants to lose and no one wants to lose because someone decided to disconnect. Seems fair and reasonable that someone be punished for choosing to be disconnected...so what's the BFD?

See tonight as it stands, I ran into match after match after match. Wave after wave of the scummiest killers, mostly comprised of Leatherfaces as it were, annoying facecamping bags of wet mice. Finally, yet another leatherface but here's the thing...we're winning. Finally one good game before bed, one last hurdle and I can sleep. Maybe it's my fault for staying up who knows, could've gone to bed way back.

I'm winning, the leatherface isn't scum. He isn't facecamping, no tunneling, he can chase. This guy is good, gens are getting done...

and it hits me. I think, great he DC'd for losing I guess I'll hop into a new match, hopefully I'll get someone okay, I can win and go tf to bed. No...it was me, I was disconnected from the host, I'm upset, of course it was me, guess I'll just wait for my buddy to wrap it up and we can jump into another.

Except no, I have a four minute wait time punishment inflicted on me. I didn't want this, I wanted to beat the game, one game. I was mad that I got dc'd during a winning match, especially after a string of late night leatherfaces. The punishment for an unwilling DC, infuriated me, so much so that I told my friend goodnight, I threw in the towel. One game that was it, that was all I wanted...and in the end what did I get for my efforts? Punishment, not figurative, not for my suffering, for GETTING disconnected AGAINST MY OWN WILL. The final straw.

And now I'm here, pissed as all hell, sleep deprived from wanting just ONE game to go my way, and when it finally does, I am quite LITERALLY punished for it.

Thank you

and goodnight.

P.S. In my sleep deprived state against my best judgement I posted in the wrong forum. Here you go. Goodnight.

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  • ClickyClicky
    ClickyClicky Member Posts: 3,536

    I think ironically thats what kept people playing DBD and survivor in particular. Game after game after game you get some crap legion or freddy tunneling you off hook and winning, you get wraith or ghostface just hanging around the hook and downing you and the rescuer and winning, whenever you are winning along comes NOED to save the day for the killer. You just want one good game. You game where you hace fun, where your first hook isn’t essentially the last, where you feel you earned your win and it wasnt just against an afk wraith,or at the very least a game where you lose against a good player and not just someone who can just cheese with crapppy tactics like tunneling one out asap by hanging around the hook and then bringing NOED to secure the win. Moris also.


    You just want a good game like what you had in the past. There used to be good games right? Killers used to play well and not be boosted noobs only winning by exploiting the bad game design right and participation perks right?

    No the truth is DBD was always like this. Once in every 20 games you may find a good one, or maybe once in every 50 you might find a gem but most games are turd and you need to break that cycle.

    I’ve been there. One more game before bed....and you end up spending hours. Now because you want points, not because you want to level up or rank up, but because you just want a “good game”.

  • LetsPlayTogether
    LetsPlayTogether Member Posts: 2,117

    The game cannot differ why the connections cuts off. How is that so complicated to understand? Deal with those puny 5 minutes.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,668

    if people wouldnt have been abusing the living hell out of this system, they wouldnt have had to implement such drastic punishments.


    thank the toxic players who would DC over everything for this.

  • blue4zion
    blue4zion Member Posts: 2,773

    Yup.

    Had a great Legion game going, showing some reeeeally toxic swf who's boss, and got disconnected for no reason, end lobby showing me and one other person dced.

    Also got "lol baby killer dced LMAO", 5 minute wait, wasted offering.


    I just can't hate this game tho xD

  • Kellie
    Kellie Member Posts: 1,328

    Thats why the DC Penalty shouldn't exist. This is a game with buggy features that will always occur and in most cases require you to DC. They need to get rid of it.

  • Stitch7833
    Stitch7833 Member Posts: 632

    DC bans are needed, and sure the odd disconnect can happen in every game. However the DC bans at the start are so very light and fair its something like 1min, 5mins, 15mins and after 24hours your penalty will go down one state, which mean unless youre being disconnected everyday multiple times your ban wont go up, and if its once in a blue moon you get a 1min ban, like wow go get a drink or something but if youre getting that many disconnects like when people say "been banned for 6hours and i dont DC" is clearly a lie.

    if youre having connection issues on your end thats up to you to fix it not moan at the game for banning quitters.... or...

    just dont DC

  • BlooperReel
    BlooperReel Member Posts: 127

    The game displays an error message for getting DC'd but not for choosing to DC. The game already knows the difference but the punishment's all the same. Could've stayed for 5 minutes but 8 losses in a row and then getting punished by a game that clearly can distinguish between separate instances made me throw in the towel.

  • BlooperReel
    BlooperReel Member Posts: 127
    edited April 2020

    Okay so like, it was 3am, one game. Any other time I would've waited it out but get this right?

    Stable connection all the time, one in a blue moon, this DC was the first of the night and it was automatically 4 minutes. I'm also not complaining that we get punished for disconnecting. I'm complaining because we get punished for GETTING disconnected. I'm all for punishing willing participants but this system is akin to an antibiotic. Punishes all DCs, "good" or not.

    Post edited by Mandy on
  • nicknack
    nicknack Member Posts: 253

    Thats the thing once it gets going the decay rate for it is so low that even if you wait a day it would still increase your time. Dont act like its always going to be 5 minutes it goes up for a long time and you have to wait a long time to get the ban down.

  • KingFrost
    KingFrost Member Posts: 3,014

    5 minutes isn't a bad penalty for the first offense.

    I've been DC'ed three times in a day before. No fault of my own. And that was coming off a huge penalty due to some internet connections over a period of a few days. I think escalation is what needs to be looked at, given the bugs and server issues. But a 5 minute penalty? Just time to go to bed after that.

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Me too. I would hate for dcing to continue to be exploited en mass.

  • coppersly
    coppersly Member Posts: 2,318

    I'd like to not get punished when someone dcs or loses internet, idk which tbh, and the game never ends even after EGC has finished the countdown and the only way to leave the game is to DC :/

  • finitethrills
    finitethrills Member Posts: 617

    Loss of connection also needs to be included because of how many people out there absolutely willingly play multi-player games, KNOWING they have terrible internet, and get DCed by their poor connection every other game. They refuse to stop playing until they get better internet or get their wires replaced, etc. If it didn't punish for "loss of connection", it'd just continue unabated. If you look at DC complaints over on steam, a huge proportion of them are from people who have unstable connections, know its unstable, and are ticked off that they can't inflict it on everyone else, because they "deserve" to play online multi-player games, even if they are using a 56k connection.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 24,938

    A warning to you all, to keep things civil please - either discuss thing respectfully or not at all! Thanks

  • The_Horde
    The_Horde Member Posts: 107

    There is a couple of things at play here, one being they can't differentiate between someone genuinely losing connection or just disconnecting via their wifi or ethernet cable. If the game did differentiate between disconnecting in-game and disconnecting when someone's wifi turns off then people would abuse it that way.

    The second thing at play is the argument that people with bad connections shouldn't be punished because they aren't disconnecting on purpose. This is a problem because when someone keeps losing internet or the game crashes repeatedly, then it hurts the other 4 people playing.

    The third thing at play is people who get occasionally disconnected. They don't get disconnected often, and when they do there is a minimal ban of close to 5 minutes. For most people it is no big deal, you just wait and play, and if it happens again its time to troubleshoot to see what the issue is.

    Unfortunately your experience is not grounds to remove the disconnect penalty as it is. It sounds like you are frustrated over the run of games you played, and the four minute ban was just the icing on the cake. I think most people would feel the same, but if someone is that frustrated where they wont sleep until they win, then just turn it off. Anytime a stress reliever causes stress its time to take a break.

  • toxcitynacl
    toxcitynacl Member Posts: 464

    He didn't say that at all. The trash game crashed on him and then gave him a 5 minute ban. In your analogy it would be like an incompetent bartender who decided to cut you off because he can't remember how to make change. And we aren't talking about losing Internet here either but the trash game crashing.

  • alaenyia
    alaenyia Member Posts: 650
    edited April 2020

    All if this. I feel like I remember when it was fun. That was a long time ago now. But I keep logging in, although less frequently, and half a dozen games later realize I am beating a dead horse.

    I also never had an issue with DCing, not as a survivor or killer. Is it mildly inconvenient for a surv to DC, i guess, but it is not much different than a 1st guy getting face-camped to death. I am a decent killer who doesn't camp, tunnel and slug so very rarely got DCd on any of those matches. I think the DC ban is ridiculous, and behavior in the game is way worse than it has ever been.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Analogy wasn't perfect but you get the idea

    The 5 minute ban wouldn't have bothered them if they hadn't been frustrating themself without end

    DC bans should be aplied in this situation too. Too let the people know that playing without a stable connection is not okay.

    This post isn't really about that though. It's about a person that let themself get so worked up that a 5 minute wait time let to an angry rant post

    If they played they would have had a bad game again. Cause if you're already frustrated. You'll either play bad or view everything the other side does as a personal attack. That's only human

    I stand by my notion that if you're having a bad game streak the best thing to do is to step back and cool down for a while

  • BlooperReel
    BlooperReel Member Posts: 127

    See but that's 100% the opposite of what I'm trying to convey, yes I was mad, yes I came here to rant but also no.

    I came here to imply that GETTING disconnected isn't fair.

    No, you shouldn't play without a stable connection. BUT, who in their right mind is constantly having an unstable connection and goes "yeah, online games sound good right now" no one. My problem is;

    a) A 4 minute ban as a result of the first disconnect which was not intentional nor a repeat from earlier.

    b) No one will play with an unstable connection and if they do at some point they have to decide it's not worth it.

    c) While not addressed I feel I should do so, the game already distinguishes between intentional and unintentional DCs

    d) Me being frustrated is a result of me being stubborn. The game punishing me after having already been punished by the game, i.e. a ban for an unintentional disconnect, is rather cruel, is it not?

    Once more to reiterate to the whole of you, as the last post I made regarding the fact that I do indeed NOT MIND DC bans, I DO MIND uncalled for DC bans. Consider;

    I am in support of sending bank robbers to prison for committing crimes. I am NOT in support of sending hostages of bank robberies to prison for association to a crime they did not commit. or in other words;

    I am in support of punishing disconnectors who decided it was okay to leave and hop in a new match. I am NOT in support of banning someone who gets even one disconnection ERROR.

    It's possible that I may have had another bad game but I look at things objectively. I was frustrated not with losing but losing to BS. Losing will just launch me into a new game. Losing to a face-camping tunneling leatherface with nurses and NOED is going to frustrate me.

  • toxcitynacl
    toxcitynacl Member Posts: 464

    And if you have a stable connection and the game just dc's you because the servers are complete trash? I guess well pretty good job so far.