Deliverance doesn't work when you're last?
Is this intended or a bug?
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I think it's intended, if you're the last survivor hooked, the Entity speeds it up to Phase 3 immediately.
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Last hooked survivor always gets cucked. It's not a bug.
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Deliverance is a one use perk its garbage
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Adrenaline, Decisive Strike, and arguably Unbreakable (Picking yourself up) are one use perks and they're all very much within the meta.
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Personally I think it’s a waste of perk if you’re in SWF but going solo? The amount of survivors that are out for themselves, deliverance can really help, although I don’t actually use it myself.
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Its intended but i think thats a bad design choice, deliverence should work on last hook, even though chance of escape is slim i think it should still work.
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It's intended and needs to be fixed.. People that say "Well the killer can just camp the hook and down you again" don't realize that you can get half way across a map using Deliverance, D-Strike, Lithe/Sprint Burst and many times have allowed me to escape matches simply by telling my SWF partner to sit at the exit gate and wait for me to hop off.
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True, you could be carried to the open gate or the hatch by exhaustion perks and DS etc. Is this healthy for the game though? I'm not sure about that and a face camping killer really isn't going to stop any of that. All they're going to do is smack you back down on the ground and slug you in case you have DS making the game longer than it needs to be. Either way, you've got an other unhealthy mechanic in the game, leaving either side with frustration.
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No it does not. You're just waiting killer's and yours time.
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SWF partner to sit at the exit gate and wait for me to hop off.
Oh look another person is in the game? Makes sense why he didn't just "camp the hook and down you again".
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But if my standard build includes SB, deliverance, DS and unbreakable this takes away that chance.
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They should really let you deliverance if you have it active as last survivor.
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Unless you're last hooked AND someone else is still alive on hook, you just die. No struggle. This isnt new.
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Yeah, with a partner in game the killers focus is shifted on where the partner is. If it's just you on hook, they're 99% going to sit and wait for you to try and Kobe, hit you and watch you for 60 seconds, and re hook you.
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Kids did you know that if you are the last remaining in the trial and you are hooked by the killer you just die? Doesnt matter if you were hooked or no, you just DIE? Now you know, no need to thank me!
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It is arguably one of the strongest SWF perks in the game, you can just tell your buddies to stick to gens because you have a guaranteed Kobe. Bonus points if you 59 second Deliverence a camper. Not even kidding, it's actually really strong in SWF. Gets me real bad on occasion, bonus points if I'm snowballing on the other side of the map and they kobe off and pick up their buddy that 99'd super quick with Unbreakable. Sounds super niche, I know, but it's happened quite a few times. Almost weekly. Extra bonus points if I down them and get DS'd or slug them and they Unbreakable. Bonus extra bonus points if I still get DS'd after a FUBAR'd Unbreakable attempt.
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Okay so I Kobe and they down me, count to 60.
If the door has been opened I have a shot to crawl there in a minute.
If I have sprint burst and unbreakable I have a chance to pop up and GO before the killer can react, then the chase is on.
Why are these options taken away from me just because I’m last?
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when you are the last person in a match and you get hooked, the game is over at that point.
they make the entity speed up the sacrifice process, as there really isnt anything you could do anymore at that point other than waste everyones time.
if the game would not immediately end, the killer would just wait next to you until the struggle phase starts, so you dont jump off.
the devs also said that, yes it theoretically would be possible for you to jump off with Deliverance directly into hatch, yet that would be an extremely unlikely scenario to occur and wouldnt be worth stalling every game for.
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Why though? If deliverance did work on last hook then killers would just wait it out, and then we would be right back to the reason last survivor has their sacrifice sped to phase 3 all over again, to prevent wasted time doing nothing.
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I guess neither of you can read.. You deliverance right in the killers face and can still make massive distance regardless. If they dont pick you up, you crawl out with DS. If they pick you up, they get hit by DS and you run away making it to a gate/hatch before they have a chance to react. The "my SWF group" sitting at a gate had nothing to do with it.. they walked out the second I was hooked but left me a chance to deliverance and escape.
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Because Deliverance/DS/Sprint Burst/Unbreakable can give you more than enough time to get to an open exit gate.
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If i couldn't read, i wouldn't reply in the 1st place.
You unhook, they wait for possible dead hard/sb they get you downed. They wait 60 seconds (because egc ds is fun) and hook you again.
The "my SWF group" sitting at a gate had nothing to do with it.. they walked out the second I was hooked but left me a chance to deliverance and escape.
So that means that they had to be long enough for t he killer to leave.
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Deliverance off hook, get slugged, now wait 60 seconds before picking you up....
Still same problem and if your saying you want the free escape from being next to an open exit gate running that build, well how is that fair?
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Oddly enough i think deliverance is a totally fine second chance perk, yeah sometimes it would mean that youd get downed then rehooked, but sometimes itll mean getting the clutch escape and reward altruism.and good gameplay.
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You can save yourself, others dont need to use time on that. Can be really strong in swf
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Getting slugged = "Unbreakable into Sprint Burst".. You really dont read, do you?
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Again if I'm sitting on top of you having to wait 60 seconds on the off chance you actually have DS/Unbreakable combo you:
A: Are not escaping.
B: Are wasting time regardless of if you had or did not have those perks.
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How am I not escaping, the moment I pop up from unbreakable sprint burst is activating. Unless you are midswing I'm getting away to at least start a chase. If I'm at a good loop or pallet I have a chance.
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