Enough with this communicating BS

Well, not like that putting salt on the wound will help though

He knows he was likely to lose but is arguing that from past experiences he would have had some sembalance of fun. I played against ranks far higher than me lost and still had fun. I also faced ranks 1 color abovd me but they had comms and it was miserable.

Thats not quite fair to say. The game didnt have SWF at the start because it wasnt intended. Then they added it and, yeah. In a game.like this it absolutley destroys balance. Its like have OoO without the killer seeing you while having extra wallhacks, forcing the killer to run terror radius enlarging perks all the while so many people in this community look at it and go " UuGhH SWF iS tOtAlLy FiNe, KiLlErS jUsT wAnT 4KEZ gIt GuD bBy KiLlEr."

TL;DR it isnt about winning or losing, its about being forced into a game where you literally can't do anything except get t-bagged and insulted cuz killer.

I've scrolled just a little bit thru and I'm surprised I didn't get any "git good" comments yet. But back to your thread i don't think matchmaking will be fixed anytime soon plus with killers leaving the game and with swf usually playing with a high rank with a low rank they would more than likely get into games like your rank. But honestly the fact ur rank 17 going against those ranks surprises me but just another reason y match making is dumb.

Not really. But 4 good Solos and a team of 4 good SWFs do not differ that much. Its not like the good Solos will run around like headless Chickens when they are not on Discord together.

But this Matchmaking basically guarantees that the Killer will lose, there is no way someone who just started playing Killer can compete with Ranks that much higher. And nobody should expect this.

But I just hope that there is not a new Killer who is already starting to blame everything on SWF. It is enough that Players with 4k hours+ are doing that, but here only the Matchmaking is to blame. Because such a Rank Difference should never, ever happen.

rank aren't a good way to mesure player skill in DBD. Killer require a 3k to pip, unless they got a extremly long game that usually don't happend with lower kill count. As a survivor, I had game I just cleaned 2 dull totem, worked on a single gen, got caught in chase kinda early and then got facecamped til I died. I contributed almost nothing to the team and did'nt escape, yet here I am with a pip. That or the killer find me early, I chase him for 4 gens, don't escape, double pip.

The only reason killer rarely get matched with anything below purple rank is because you either need to depip willingly or get face camped at as the first hooked survivor.

survivor also get point for almost anything. Hide? point, generator? points, killer find you when you hide? that a chase, here some point. You exist in the same game as freddy? Points. no seriously, survivor get points when they fall asleep....

The matchmaking made it so if any side as to wait for long, it gonna pick someone from lower rank, Sadly both potatoes and god looper SWF can be from rank 1-8 and the matchmaking wont care about that.

Killer need to 3k as soon as rank 13 with the current average match time. Survivor only require some skill when they reach purple. I can tell for experiance that what you face the most as killer around rank 15:

Rank 8 survivor> Purple rank that arent 8 >Red rank that arent rank 1>Green rank and Rank 1 Red>Yellow rank.

Killer rank also depend a lot on your killer, Legion can ez get point and get away with a 1k or 2k

and If you want to rank up as plague I hope your ready to stall game to death AND pull out 3k in each single game.

im exagerating a bit for plague, but you get the idea

Even if you don't tap full power potential as SWF you still get legit every usefull aura reading addon into your basekit minus OoO just by talking. You get to counter the surprise factor killer has at the start of the game when you still don't know who you face. If your friend tell you he just got stalked by ghostface, you will be double checking around you more than if no one could communicate you who they got chased by. Your potatoe friend who relly only on terror radius? now Ghostface wont get free stalk early game on him. You got baseline Kindred. that save 1 perkslot for survivor who already have 4 time the perks of a killer.

IMO SWF should have limited perk slot.

2 player- not affected

3 player- lose 1 perk slot (does not affect the fourth player who alone)

4 player- lose 2 perk slot.

If you get free perks for simply being in vocal chat, then you need to lose the ability to overstack second chances perk. A solo survivor has to use perk slot for overall utility and aura reading, or they can go stacked with second chances perk. Differance is they wont have both and have to make a choice.

No, best case senario if you camp with bubba is that you get safety pip (no pip, but don't depip) the rank system destroy your points if you stay near hooked fella. and mind you, a safety pip is 4k only.

Solo players don't have to do anything with their perk slots to read auras etc. I play a lot of solo survivor. I have Resilience, Spine Chill, Sprint Burst and Iron Will. Same build I have in SWF.

People need to stop thinking that all anyone talks about in SWF is what is happening in game. Most spend the majority of the time talking about what they have done that day, how much food they have managed to devour being stuck at home all day and general conversation with the occasional "oh... the killer is with me by the way". Not all who play SWF take it ultra serious and have every map divided in to grid references that are constantly reported.

You still have communication and base aura read perk for free in a game balanced around the fact you need to waste a perk or somehow communicate with people nearby you with the 2 emote given to you and your basic hud. just being able to tell someone that ''oh killer chasing me'' make it so 3 other people know they are completly safe to do anything. Any one could just grab OoO and have the potential to ruin a killer game with no effort. Sure, you wont be giving killer position the best way you could at any time like tryhard SWF, but you can just be with friend who play casually, who aren't god looper and say to them things like ''Yo were facing trapper and he putting traps around shack'' Grats, you could not ever use it for the rest of the match, you have effectively made the killer power way less strong and now that trapper has probably lost 2 or 3 gen to do a set up that probably will be useless, just cause people will avoid that side of the map. You're Relly far from being a tryhard SWF who told their friend every trap location + telling them when it safe or not to go disable them. You just told your friend ''yo avoid/be carefull around killer shack'' and that relly impactfull for the killer.

You just described an average game...

''And survivors being able to pip easier just means when a 12 gets matched with a bunch of 5s, there probably isn't that much skill gap. Just saying.''

And that were your a bit wrong. What happend is the matchmaking realise no one is near your rank and extand the range on the level gap, oh your facing rank 5 survivors? the matchmaking wont make differance on how many hours they have put in game, You may as well face 3 solo survivor who all got 300+ hours than you who run decent meta perk (Usual solo build that probably have ds or Bt combined with an exhaustion perk + Iron will and detective hunch or anything similar to that) just to have a fourth survivor who also rank but who's a potatoe who got carried by 1 friend in a duo SWF and who trying to learn with his first level 40 char and probably don't have good perk or unlockable. You face anything between those. It just that you are more likely to face people with more hours than you.

That only change once you hit red rank and ocasionally end up on poor souls who are green rank as rank 1 killer. just cause there isin't enought killer in the game+ survivor pipe fast so they don't stay under green rank relly long.

TLDR, due to how the matchmaking work, the lower your rank as killer, the more chance you have to face stronger survivor who got WAY more hours than you. The higer you rank, more are you chance to face lower rank survivor.

But sometimes it's fun to play with friends back then I didn't even play the game that much because it got boring to me XD