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The top 3 killers
Heyo, so today I wanna talk about my top 3 killers, their playstile and my opinion on each one. This is just my opinion and you're welcome to argue with me in the comments.
Let's start with the strongest of the bunch, imo, good old Sally, the nurse. People believe that she's useless because of her rework, but I absolutely believe that the rework was a success. The cooldown was well deserved and her add-ons aren't awful anymore (except the red add-ons which I believe are the worst red add-ons in the game). Nurse is the hardest to both play and master character because she doesn't get looped normally, you need to predict accurately where she's gonna go. A good nurse predicts your predictions and can dominate easily. Nurse is the most non-addon dependant killer, unlike for example wraith, and when you get good with her she's extremely strong. Something I don't actually enjoy is her huge skill cap. I tried to learn her for more than a month, and I decided to stop because I had severe depression after all those loses.
Let's continue with spirit, my personal favorite and main. She is loopable only when she doesn't have her ability and she's not as braindead as other killers. Imo, trying to master spirit is extremely difficult, and I can say that even tho I main her for more than 3 months, I have definitely not mastered her. She relies on the tiny details, for example, did that bush just move, or are the brunches of this bush a bit wider, or did she double back? I can't hear her footsteps anymore ect. Once you get decent with her she's gonna be extremely powerful. A weakness is that she is add-on dependant. You can play with different playstiles, but if you don't know how to track, hear and predict, you're gonna have a bad time.
Last one on my list is Billy. Where can I even start with this unit of a killer? He has insane map control and a saw that can oneshot. Once you get the hang of him you will dominate the trials. Even tho behavior says he's easy to play on his profile, he's not at all. You need to learn the stability of his chainsaw, where to m2 and where to m1, how to drift like crazy ect. Unlike the others, he is known for his fun matches on both sides. He's both fun to play as an against and he's incredibly satisfying. He's not that much add-on dependant but I do think he needs to have em checked.
What do you guys think? Let me know down below.
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I agree with your assessment of Nurse if it was pre nerf. But current Nurse is not that good, I hear a lot about the legendary 10k hour Nurse that can 360 no scope you across the map with her pinkie finger and you won't be able to do anything about it. But I have never personally seen that.
As such I believe Freddy should be in the top 3, not Nurse.
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OP is apparently doing fine with Nurse
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I don't think Spirit takes that much mastery, she's about Wraith level in terms of difficulty. Tracking is a tool all killers should learn.
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Ran into one of those a few days ago. No perks but BBQ, no addons. Pointless of even trying to survive. I think the team (only R1 and 2 btw) did 3 gens in total and i am not even sure how we pulled that off. He/she had over 5000 hours, and apparently this person was a nurse only player, according to steam profl (full off "Cheating Nurse player / best Nurse player " comments)
There are those players that show you how INSANE and still overpowered she is.
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Not to get too bogged down in the Nurse nerf but if you consider how no one used her add ons: her cooldown nerf was in a way the devs taking something away to give it back through add ons. It’s extremely difficult to survive against a Nurse with green fatigue reduction and green cooldown reduction for example.
I oddly have noticed her performing much better with higher level add ons. Who would’ve thought?
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IMO it's nurse, freddy, hillbilly. In that order.
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I for one HATE facing Billy. His map pressure is just so obnoxious to me. Sure you can loop him, but his mobility is just insanely strong. On top of his mobility, he gets insta-downs. It's to the point where I loathe hearing a chainsaw at the beginning of a match.
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People will hate me for my top three, but in order they are Nurse, Spirit, Hag. All three of these are amazing killers that have the chance to perform better than the rest
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Freddy has the pressure, but his kit simply isn't as good as Nurses, even post nerf. The top 3 IMO are (in this order) Spirit, Nurse, and Billy, then Freddy. Nurses kit will always make her a top threat, even if it's dogshit and buggy like it is now.
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I agree the Nurse add on rework needed to happen but they didn't need to touch her base kit. No on liked a quadruple blink nurse. With the cd it takes you longer to traverse the map. Some survivors don't even bother to juke. They just run in a straight line cause they know you can't catch them till you blink twice and recharge. Most of her add ons suck now. The only good ones are distance, less fatigue and blink recharge. If your a great nurse you won't be affected by the rework but for the rest of us -.-
Also Nurse has quite a few bugs that have yet to be addressed and they have been around since the rework.
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Do you play PC EU? Because I think I know who you faced.
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Yes i do
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I don't think hag is top tier. The top 3 are all mobility killers that end chases quickly. On the other hand, hag needs to place her traps and her early game is awful. I would say low A, high B tier imo, adding her hight which makes mindganes in high walls really hard.
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Was the killer KnightLight of Legacy then? Because he really makes Nurse look op and I know he often plays one-perk Nurse.
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Top 3-
Spirit- Huntress-Pig.
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Top 3 Actual Best not Theoretical BS. Meaning that while it may be true that the perfect AI could create an unstoppable killing machine with the Nurse, for 99 percent of humans she's garbage tier. And for .9 percent she's good, and for .1 percent she's the best killer. But lets be honest, I look forward to Nurse games because they tend to be easy wins.
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Freddy is number 1, because for how easy he is too play he's simply the strongest. Sure the best huntress player, or the best nurse player maybe better than the best Freddy players. But there are 10 Freddy red rank killers for every Nurse or Huntress or Spirit.
Spirit is number 2, the skill floor and skill ceiling is a bit higher then Freddy but she's much easier to master than Nurse or Huntress and you'll be able to keep up with even the best SWF (Assuming you've mastered Spirit)
Hillbilly is number 3, the only reason he isn't one is because he's complete dog doodoo on certain maps. But his mobility, instadowns, and overall ease of use secure his position in the top 3.
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Nurse, Spirit, Freddy are all the top tier.
Billy, Huntress, Hag, GF are the next tier down.
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Nurse -> Spirit -> Oni (against competent teams)
Hag, Billy, and Freddy come close to that #3 spot.
Hag has too many weaknesses. She’s still great but flashlights and OoO will crush her hard.
Freddy is strong but a BIT overrated. He’s very obnoxious and boring to face but he is still a basic M1 killer.
Billy is a more consistent version of Oni but Oni is just so much more capable of downing against good survivors when his power is up due to how easy it is to control and flick around corners.
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Nurse's pink add-ons are not THAT bad. They don't severely limit your power and actively sabotage you to the same level that Pig's do.
No matter what anyone says either, Nurse literally ignores the map so she'll always be the strongest. Spirit's strength doesn't come from any sort of mechanical skill, though. It comes from people not being able to tell anything. As for Billy, firstly he is SO ANNOYING to go against since just about everyone considers his chainsaw his primary weapon, but yes. He is really strong. He permanently has soft destruction, high mobility and an instant-down tied into a small charge timer and small "cooldown".
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I'd say nurse only in God tier hands otherwise she's a joke, then Freddy, then Billy, then spirit.
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Top 1- Nurse. Same reason
Top 2- Billy. He have a great map pressure.
Too 3-Oni. Billy 2.0 but needs to hit people first to get his great map pressure and can down a lot of survivors easily when with his power
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It's all females in my top three. Nurse, Spirit, and Huntress. Why? They simply have the most potential to end chases quickly and are three of four or five who have a good chance of getting 4Ks.
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For all those Freddy guys, he's a generic M1 killer that sits in the B- tier (B minus).
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Nurse is far from #1.
You nailed it.
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I believed that nurse is the best for months after her rework, but i don't do anymore. The skillcap of spirit is nearly as high and much easier to achieve, so she's clearly the best. After that comes Freddy for the same reason, but his skillcap is not that high. Nurse is the third imo.
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Here's a hot take:
1 - Spirit - Uncounterable, with some mobility.
2 - Nurse - Uncounterable, but buggy and unreliable. Some maps are a pain.
3 - Deathslinger - Uncounterable, but no mobility or pressure.
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I disagree with your opinion. Top 3 killers aren't supposed to be the easiest killers, they are supposed to be the highest skill highest reward killers that it may take a while to learn and master, but when you do, you're unstoppable. They 0.9% is obviously wrong if you haven't played in the red ranks. Since every killer you mentioned is stronger than Freddy then it's obvious that Freddy isn't in the top tier. Lethality and difficulty is completely different.
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Disagree with oni because he needs an early hit to get his power and can be 360d a bit too easily imo
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Honestly i do not remember what his/her name was.
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Well when you said her addon pass was a success and she actually has useful addons is the point where any possibility of you having a point was lost.
It was an abject failure in every aspect. We still have the same amount if not more of useless/meme addons that aren't going to be used an overwhelming majority of the time, and now she only has 2 good addons (cooldown ones.) Most of them were clearly designed by people who don't play her and actually understand what would make her more enjoyable or interesting. An addon that rewards you for using your power... by disabling your power... And if you're not using the cooldown addons you are literally blinking half as much as someone who is, cutting your effectiviness by 50% out the door. Unless you are a GOD and do not miss a SINGLE blink the entire match you are way better off running cooldown over literally anything else.
And her red addons are just a slap in the face. I don't even want to talk about them. The pass was a failure, and she is in the worst state she's ever been in gameplay wise and bug wise.
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The killers you listed are possibly still the top 3, but you're wrong about Nurse's rework being a succes, IMO all her add-ons besides blink cooldown and range are still useless and her base kit is awful to play because of the cooldown and Dedicated Servers. They pretty much killed Nurse for any average player.
Tho I guess people could make a case for Freddy. Unlike Nurse, you don't need to sweat your ass off with him in order to get similar results. Tho he's still a M1 killer after all, so he might not be that good as well.
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Against competent teams, Oni loses 3 gens before he gets his power and is unlikely he's gonna get more than 1 down with his power against good spread out teams. Not to mention, his power isn't even reliable at all loops without a green add-on.
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Freddy is an easy killer, that's why he is so lethal in the average games. Nurse is the best killer, if you disagree well, a god nurse can end the game with 5 gens done against a pro swf.
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People keep talking about these "God" Nurses who eat SWF teams at breakfast, but I keep seeing only Nurses who either get destroyed or struggle to win with 1 gen left against solo survivors.
And I disagree on that statement. A God SWF would be able to destroy a God Nurse most of the time, unless that Nurse is running a Mori.
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Nurse, Spirit and Hag. Cause if you see a good player with those killers, they'll almost never lose.
Oni comes a close 4th.
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Most killers are going to struggle and lose generators against competent teams before they get their first down. Only Nurse and Spirit can reliably deal with really good SWF groups and even then they’re probably going to only kill two survivors.
The reason why Nurse and Spirit are so good is because it’s mainly based on how good the player is at playing these two killers. They don’t have to capitalize on the survivor’s mistake in order to get their downs.
Yeah Oni is going to lose generators before he gets his first down, but against good players Billy’s not gonna do any better. Survivors can easily deny him his chainsaw and force him to melee attack.
I don’t see any other killer that is better than Oni other than maybe Hag or Freddy but even then Hag is hard countered by OoO and flashlights. If a good team is running either one of these things, the Hag is not going to have a good time. If the team is not running either of these things I’ll argue Hag is probably number three.
I think Freddy is so much better than he was but even then I don’t think that he’s better than Oni or Billy. He’s a very strong killer but I think people slightly overrate him.
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Have you ever played on red ranks? I'm on eu servers and I can tell you, they are rare but they demolish. Good luck trying to predict them, they are in your head, it's actually scary. A god nurse has 2 counters, corn maps and indoor maps. Corn blindness is a huge problem and they break line of sight really often on indoor maps to. They do exist, they are the rare demonic creatures that make nurse s tier. If you find one, dcing is the quickest way to end the game, which trust me, won't last long.
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EU, red ranks, never saw or heard about these God Nurses post nerf. For me, Nurse is pretty rare as a whole, most Nurse mains I know quit on her and I think I have better chances to find an unicorn than a "God" Nurse that apparently is still getting praised on forums.
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Dunno dude, I usually play at night and I am guaranteed to face one at least once a month. Don't know about you, I just let my experience to talk as a whole.
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I would put list my top three as
1:Freddy
2:Spirit
3:Nurse
two and three were a close one but spirit is ultimately stronger with add ons and perks. Freddy is Brokenly strong in the meta especially since the long waited infinites change. There’s nothing Freddy lacks or gets punished for.
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