Survivors nerfed again

Survivors, after being tunneled/camped/mori'd on the way to red ranks, honed their skills to become better. Killers on the other hand had the games handed to them to red ranks and then refused to get better. But the reward to survivors is to nerf them.

No matter what you say though more nerfs will come. Just watch. Moris will be a minor tweek because killers gotta be spoonfed 4ks and keys will be nerfed into oblivion.

I personally don’t mind the nerfs survs got especially removing the infinites they were stupid, my only problem is that they nerf op stuff for survivors (toolbox ,instaheal ,perks ...) and leave op add ons (iri head ,tombstone ) and mori the same.

and these are what ruin gameplay for me

Not that i agree with op, but they didnt "buff vaults" they fixed a bug

If Survivors "honed their skills" in the way to red ranks, why most people here agree that red rank Survivors can be just as potato and boosted as a rank 15 Survivor?

It's safe to say that both you and OP don't play enough Killer games to know what you are talking about.

Not disputing what you're saying but.

"Killer isn't laughably easy. You need to post video proof of you getting multiple 4Ks in a row at Red Ranks."

That's just a weak argument. Here, I can prove it right now. I don't keep recordings, but I keep a crapton of screenshots.

I've been playing nothing but Killer nonstop, so while I did take breaks every now and then, these are all 4ks back to back in Rank 1. Sometimes I'm not even running the most effective perks on the killer.

Killer can certainly be stressful and you certainly have to sweat sometimes, but don't make an argument like that mate. It's not going to get this discussion anywhere.

Some potatoes will fall through the cracks. But if killers REALLY lost as much as they claim they do (Which isn't true, by the way) then its just a few potatoes here and there.

And I've played a lot of killer. Even 200%'d the game on PS4. I've never had issues like any of the killers here. If I got a 0k, it was either unfortunate luck at the start (All survivors started separated) or I was outplayed. You won't find any post of mine bitching about survivors destroying me from time to time.

Honestly, i think some people just want to make it seem like killer take no skill. That or they just get four kills all the time. Which begs the question. How the heck did i a solo player, escape vs not only a Freddy with noed but also a endless tier three Myers during the current update? If killer is so easy, no matter what you do as a survivor. It will lead to your death. How is four man escapes still possible with this current update?

Thank you for bringing up survivor skill. For it's like the one thing we have no idea about in these matches. Are these survivors good at playing the game? Bad at playing the game? What is the skill level of the killer and what adds on are they using? Like some people trying to judge killers on how easy it is to get kills. Yet that seems like it would be a poor way of looking at things from a balance stand point. Since any killer who is worth their salt, could get a three k or four k vs a team of newbies survivors, depending on if one finds the hatch or not. While flip it around and of course any newbie killer is going to get destroy by experience survivors. It's like the one factor we are unaware of. Since skill can massive change how a game plays out.

Some people (Like me) are bored of the usual perks in the game.

Which is why we use these textures. I know it kills the quality in the screenshots, but it works much more ingame.

I understand using textures but that one just make the saturation super high, maybe you would like more the recent texture I saw noob3 using that changes the art on the perks to cats/memes.

Yeah I know what you mean. But just telling someone to make proof when said proof is easy to come by is just what makes your argument weak.

You can explain why Killer, especially in Rank 1, can be a stressful sweatfest rather than point at the other person to provide the evidence for you, which they absolutely can by the way.

Give them context rather than challenge them.

At the minute I'm escaping pretty much every game. If I die I'm generally the only one. If I played solo I'd probably die a lot more but when your playing with others who also know how to play this game then you should escape quite easily.

The nerfs were actually really needed to help killers at higher ranks against survivors who have 1000+ hours. The only balance the game needs right now is to nerf moris and keys.

The best change the devs made to help survivors was to nerf ruin. This helped lower ranks massively.

ruin was the only thing that held skill pressure into the game. now the skill gap is becoming more and more small for survivors

Thing with killers is, decent killers capitalize heavily on mistakes. If one survivor screws up just once it can cascade into a 4k no problem.

Just an example, was playing solo (as always) against a nurse. I don't know if the others were grouped or not. On console by the way. We got 2 gens done fairly quickly. Then got cocky as this was not a top tier nurse. We would each go and take over the chase if someone got downed, while the others prioritized healing instead of objective. We played around too much. Last gen popped as 3rd person died. She got a 4k.

Now she wasn't horrible as nurse as she could hit blinks but she also chased without blinking and respected pallets. Should have been a fairly easy 3-4 escape. But we sacked ourselves. She capitalized on them. We didn't.

Haha! Hit it right on the head! I had a Laurie in an earlier match who failed two healing skill checks when the killer was right around the corner, bringing him to us both times. At the end of the match, I expected green or yellow ranks and the Laurie turned out to be in the high reds...lol

Old ruin was causing problems for the game, not because it was OP, not because it was UP, but because it was the best perk for all killers, which meant that either you ran it and had to protect a totem the whole game, or you didn't run it and you got shafted by genrushing. It was extremely unhealthy for the games balance and needed a rework, anyone who says otherwise needs to take a much better look at it with some thick glasses.

Nobody forces players to play that side. Queue times are what they are like due to a lower killer player count, which came about due, in part, the Ruin change. Matches became sweat fests, and not many wanted to suffer through that. My argument simply points that out. Killer is anything but laughably easy, except in low ranks and against potato/boosted teams.

As always. Survivors get nerfed for a REASON

What, you want me to show you my collection of 4ks from recent games? With a more "consistent" player level. Alright.

Here's from the start of today:

And finishing off with Deathslinger where I levelled up to Player Level 85.

So.

"Nice Try."