Should Face camping be bannable ?
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Lol you don't need to rehash that bs line to me buddy guy I really do not care. Been playing for five years now. I know it's lame and so does the people who do it.
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You can use BT against Freddy. You just have to be awake before unhooking. BT is a Terror Radius based perk, and if you're Oblivious, you're not going to get BT when you unhook someone. The only thing I can think of that would counter this is if they changed BT to give the user Deep Wounds in case the saver doesn't have it or can't use it. But that would be stupid against anyone who isn't using stealth like Ghost Face or Wraith, or Insidious. BT would just be another second chance perk like DS that everyone would run.
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I didnt say they owe me fun lol I'm saying the devs need to figure out a way to make this more balanced because the scenario I described right now really isn't.
I never came on here and ranted about camping (this thread is probably the only time I have ranted about it) until xbox caught up with everyone else and now the matchmaking is crazy which leads to toxicity
I don't message killers nor survivors when they do scummy things (I have in the past, but no longer)... unless they message me first, I might
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There is a punishment they lose points on the last emblem. And if someone face cramps its awful and even as a killer main I hate to see it, but when they do just go and do gens. The survivor most likely spammed a vault or flashlight clicked to make the killer mad. If you dont wanna be camped dont give them a reason. It's still awful tho
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You know, you bring up a good point. Since we have no idea what counts as camping from the op post. Unless we go with the idea they meant a face camping bubba. That will down the first person they see, put them on hook and watch them die, while attacking anyone who dares to come close. Yet we don't really know. Which is kind of important if we all wanna talk about this, by laying out a clear meaning as to what the term means. Since without that, well what counts as camping to one person, might be normal gameplay to another. Leading to more fighting over the meaning of the term, than any real talk about. Yet to put that aside for now. Lets dig into it.
There are some people who go, yeah camping aka staying near the hook is ok sometimes, like during the end game after all gens are done. That or if you see marks leading to the hook, it's ok to look around or say if you spot a survivor swarming towards the hook right in front of you, it's ok to stay there or nearby.
Now from what i seem, most would say the face camping bubba is bad, who gone out of their way to ruin the fun of someone for no reason. Yet we also know, not every case of camping aka staying near the hooked person, is due to face camping bubba reasons. So the question like always, when a thread like this pop up, is well. How do you punish face camping bubba's without punishing legit players? If we go with the idea not every single time camping happens, is bad. That and are these players new? Maybe they don't know any better and a better tutorial might be needed.
Now lets flip things around for a moment, If camping is always bad and needs to be punished, well what counts as camping? How would you punish it without effecting legit players? Since a killer needs to be near the hook, when well hooking someone. So how long can a killer be near a hooked person before getting punished? For that is an idea i seen once before, the killer should be punished if they stay to close to the hook. Which there are many cases where a Killer might stay near the hook longer than normal. Hook is right next to a gen. So kick that, there is also a pallet nearby. Destroy that and than on their way. That or down two people in the same area. Pick one up, hook them, pick up the other person. Hook them as well, with both hooks being near one another. A fair number of legit reasons, as to why, well a killer is nearby the hook longer than normal.
Yet like a majority of these threads, all we hear is camping is bad and no real idea how to fix it or ideas that have already been brought up and shown to be easily abuse. Which just makes it seem like, the camping issue, seems way harder to fix than many seem to think.
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Should teabagging be bannable?
It's both toxic af, but not bannable sadly.
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Ah directly from the horses mouth. This gets a vote for best reply.
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Only two of those six topics are actual issues.
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You're entitled to your opinion, just like everyone on here is.
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No, it just shouldn't be rewarded.
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It's not an opinion.
- Noed can be countered by 5 breaking totems. It can be counter before and after it's active. It's on the survivors to counter the perk, instead of refusing to do totems then complain about it afterwards. If your even a slightly competent survivor, no-one should die to Noed.
- Tunnelling is a non-issue. If you get killed early, queue up for the next game instead of waiting around for 10 minutes to abuse the killer in end game chat. You have pallets and windows at your disposal to run a killer for 5 gens and still escape. Learn loops.
- DS is a non-issue. You can counter DS by not tunnelling the unhooked survivor and chase the person who got unhooked. You can also slug, which is a great way to apply pressure. The only issue with DS, is the DS + Locker tech.
- Camping is a non-issue. Remain on the hook for the remaining time to give your fellow teammates time to do gens and leave. You can die and move onto your next game instead of waiting 10 minutes to abuse the killer in end game chat. BT also exists to counter camping.
These aren't issues. These are low experienced players complaining about perks when they die or lose.
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Short answer no, long answer, I'm too lazy to write it out.
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Short answer: no
Long answer: Not banable, but they could look into the idea of camping. I am a killer main but i rely on camping when I need it to secure objective or when I want to punish toxicity. I never camp a good survivor that just outplayed me, i've got big enough nuts to admit I was outplayed by a better player. Camping is a strat when used properly, but a very scummy thing when abused. There could be something done in order to punish the dickheads
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Why do you try at grammar when its all wrong? Look at the topics they are mostly survivor complaints noed,tunneling, face camping, irri nerf, face camp should be bannable, doc is broken,morri rarity, why do killers tunnel.
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Well.....rank 1 doesnt mean much these days for survivor. Ive seen red ranks that cant loop but i get your point. Face camping only work on potatoe survivors.
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Enjoy 20k bp games LOL
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so dumb, so if you get knocked by an iridescent head as an example early in the game that's it ? you're not getting saved ? that ruins the fun in the game, facecampers need to actually get their life togther, sitting there watching someone slowly die is not fun so why do it ?
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being facecamped can make people not want to play the game, i literally always run borrowed time cause i always try to save my friends getting facecamped, it's just sad from a killer perspective who actually enjoys sitting there watching someone slowly die
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body blocking doesn't instantly get you a kill, facecamping does, facecamping is a bigger issue
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you're just being an idiot now, there's doing an objective and there's ruining another players fun
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lol, the logic of some people.
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If I had a dollar for every similar post, oh man I'd own at LEAST 2 Ferraris by now.
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The thing is, their still is a difference between rank 1s and rank 10s.
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On THIS forums you could probably buy Ferrari. Not the car, the company itself.
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Because you didnt get any pressure from it. One person on hook with 2 ppl trolling and one doing gens, or 3 people doing gens with one trolling.
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Killers objective is to kill...
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The something is other survivors doing gens and not trying to save the person just to shove it un the campers face.
Stop being overly altruistic. 1 death for 3 escapes is a win. Sucks for whoever's hooked, but the killer also gets jack #########.
It's only still a thing BECAUSE bad survivors keep feeding into it.
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Dude, I play more survivor (rank 4) than killer (rank 12) and it's not an issue. Face camping is punished by you doing work instead of trying to make a save to spite the killer. DONT FEED THE FACE CAMPERS.
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Freddy doesnt need to be countered by BT. Wake the ######### up before you make a save. And BT works. SIMPLE.
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Ding ding ding, winner!
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Camping isn't the problem in this situation, its the iridescent head that is over powered and needs to be changed. Thankfully, one of the Devs have mentioned that they may be looking to change it and maybe give it a range requirement. I'm of the opinion that instant downs shouldn't be a thing, since they all feel cheap and worse than camping.
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I agree. The problem is that the game will have to change some things from the ground up. Billy and Bubba will have to be reworked and the devs would have to introduce new and interesting perks. So we are kinda just stuck with what we have.
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Oh yes, because somehow 5 gens are going to fly by for the duration of 1 sacrifice.
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Ok, but what if I'm thirsty for those unhook points and hide 2.5 feet away from the hook for the duration of the sacrifice?
The killer is preventing me from playing MY WAY!
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Those type's of angry responses are entitled survivor mains who think they deserve to escape and think the killer should be weaker than them
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I was face camped before in a game against a bubba. I held out as long as possible for my team. Everyone did gens, all five gens were done. Yet the one error they made was at the end. They try to save me, rather than getting the heck out. Turning a 3 man escape, into a 4 man slaughter. It totally can be done, you can get the gens done vs a face camper.
Which heck it being possible to escape from a face camper. You don't have to take my word for it. Ohm proves it's possible with video footage. Of course the face camper, was far from the most intelligence player around, lets just say.
You do know, sooner or later, you should notice they are being facecamped. So rather than doing what is best for your odds of escape, doing the objective aka gens, you just sit there and watch them die like the killer. If the hooked survivor doesn't kill themselves on hook and struggles.
That and couldn't you make the killer is stopping you from playing your way, vs even killers who are playing the game legit? Like it being a better idea to spread out and remain injured vs a Legion but what if you play style is to always remain healthy, wouldn't legion stop you from doing that or at least make it a questionable idea? Plague you are force to make the choice of remaining injured or granting Plague her power, hope you were not planning on being the team healer this game. Ghostface, you have to look around with your eyes or use spine chill, rather than relaying on hearing his terror radius. Freddy you have to wake up to use borrow time. Heck, by going against certain killers, you are already force to do certain things, if you want to use a perk or simply not die. Since huntress and Deathslinger can make windows and pallets way more dangerous, if they have good aim.
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Face camping doesnt give you an instant kill either tf? Face camping is easily countered by a hook rush and bt or ds. which 90% of survivors run
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No
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I do
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No, not bannable, because if it's allowed in the game, the devs know killers do it and it's still possible, no, it should not be bannable. Should something be done about it? I think so, but if the devs are fine with how things are, they won't change anything...
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