Moris Are Needed to Slow Game Down
Moris are needed in DbD to slow the game down. I don't believe they are toxic and at times without a Mori games can be over for Killer before it gets going.
I disagree that Moris are a problem and should be removed - there may be an argument for making Ebony Mori's even rarer but I think mechancially they are fine how they are.
Could even be said that in some matches for the Killer to be "competitive" a Mori is definitely needed.
In summary, there is NO moral high ground to take in DbD. It's a game about killing and surviving. Not taking a Mori is not the "decent" thing to do...it's a mechanic to use. Good for you who "refuse" to use them, they are there for Killers to use.
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agreed. My old rule was that when I used a mori, I cant actually start killing until Ruin dies. that way, the game still went at a reasonable pace.
Now Ruin is dead at all times, so I can kill whenever I want, and suddenly the game is at a reasonable pace again. Especially if I'm not a top tier killer.
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And meanwhile a lot of Killers win without using Moris. I guess they are not that needed.
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Moris aren't needed to slow the game down whatsoever if you actually understand how to always do that with the killer you're using. They're just flat out broken, and almost guarantee a win when used.
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You slow the game down by skipping 1/3 of the hooks required to win?
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More like speed the game up and get it over and done with quickly, especially if killers just tunnel off the hook to Mori.
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I don't think the OP thought it through when they made this thread.
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Can we just have one mori mega thread discussion instead of several small ones?
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This is either a bait or your a rank 20
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Not seen you make a single point to any discussion you have posted in yet...
I know what I said.
It's not skipping hooks, it's a catch up mechanic. Last game I just played a Legion had 1 hook with 1 gen left. Theat person then got Mori'd, and what do you know, they ended with a 3K. Not possibnle without Mori.
You're assuming I don't know what I am doing as a Killer main, and you actually make 0 point here towards the convo.
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If you want to slow games down, run slowdown perks and pressure survivors effectively.
I don't have a strong opinion either way about Mori's, but I never use them.
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Mori's aren't needed to slow a game down. There's certainly other strategies that you can use to slow the game down. IE: tunneling the first guy to death hook and deleting one guy off the team. Which is what I see pretty commonly at high ranks. Mori is more the thing you play when you've lost a bunch of games in a row and the last team really pissed you off bad. So now you gotta take revenge out on someone.
Not that I'm complaining. You can do whatever you feel you need to do to win a game. But if you mori people over and over again don't expect the survivors to say nice things to you after the game. So don't run on here with a screen shot of people talking trash to you and be like wahh, this community is so toxic!
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While a mori can slow down gens by removing a survivor from the game quickly, it's not needed at all.
If gens are being done too quickly then you are wasting too much time not pressuring the areas you need to. Best thing to learn is that not all gens are worth protecting. Focus on a close group of gens and let gens farther away get done so survivors have to come closer to you.
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"It's not skipping hooks, it's a catch up mechanic. Last game I just played a Legion had 1 hook with 1 gen left. Theat person then got Mori'd, and what do you know, they ended with a 3K. Not possibnle without Mori."
That's precisely why moris aren't okay. The Legion literally got dominated for almost the entirety of the game, and they still won because of an offering. It wasn't the killer who earned the win, it was the offering that won the game
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Not taking a Mori is not taking the moral ground as a Killer. I am not running on here upset at anything, its simply me stating, after having a Mori used on me plenty of times and having used a Mori plenty of times that they are not a reason for Survivors to cry and people get upset.
A Mori is a game mechanic, it is not abuse and whether you like it or not, slowing the game down comes in the way of many forms. A Killer can go from an easy 4K one match to a single hook the next. It is the way the game goes. Just as a Survivor can loop a Killer for 5 gens and then next get hooked within seconds.
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Well, I can only use myself for comparison - I am Rank 1 as Killer and almost never use a Mori. And I am not good as Killer, not at all.
So if you need Moris to win games, yeah, you probably dont know what you are doing.
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No reason for someone to cry? Well I mean getting mori'd is pretty annoying. With how most people use it. You get taken off the hook you get hit in the head again and mori's right away. 1 minute into the game. Never had any chance to rebound from making your mistakes in that first chase. There's a lot of reason's why one could complain about it.
I get mori'd all the time. I don't QQ over it. But I know people who do. And if they wanna get upset about it then they're allowed to. Maybe survivors should have a mori as an option to? If a killer can't catch you in three generators the survivor pulls out a shotgun and 1 shots the killer?
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If you think moris are "needed to slow the game down" then im sure your fine with ds, bt, swf, dh, adrenaline and keys
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I mean, you can argue that about basically every perk, addon, or (some) offerings. Especially "second chance" ones.
If a Mori skips a hook, second chance perks do too. 😁
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Part of the game. There is a counter to everything. Everything can be annoying. End the game, move on and kill the next Survivors.
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If a Killer can't use something to help them, then maybe Survivors shouldn't be able to. Only way to do anything is get rid of all perks altogther. Have a hadcore mode for the pro players.
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No, the hitboxes are broken. Moris actually work when used.
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Well yeah,you do need moris if u're garbage.
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And meanwhile alot of survivors escapes without perks like DS etc. (me included)
I guess they are not that needed.
(Dont understand me wrong, i dont have anything against DS as long as they dont abuse it)
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Schools are back in september, right?
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With the pandemic, who knows?
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I'm just speakin fax mate,just cause you can't play without moris doesn't mean no one can. I do just fine.
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That's the unfortunate part, they do work when used.
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Go to any streamer who has played this game over 2000 hours and tell them moris are fine lol believe me even the biggest killer mains won't agree.
Just saying if you firmly believe this then I'd say add someone with over 2000 hours. Tell them to run a mori and tunnel if they want. If more than two gens pop I'd be pretty shocked tbh.
A mori won't make a difference in every game but the same can be said for stuff like keys.
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I don't think mori's need to be removed from the game. I think the tunnel/mori dynamic needs to be addressed because it's completely unfair. But if you NEED a mori to slow down your game...you might consider re-evaluating your play style. Moris are meant to be a fun, ultra rare offering...not the basis for consistently 'saving' your matches.
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Don't slow down perks already exist, like pop, dying light and others? So couldn't someone in this case a killer, slow down the game, without needing a mori?
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Mori's are not needed in this game at all. There are plenty of slowdown perks to use, you also have the option to get better and learn how to mind game loops or break chase and go after someone else. If anything, weaker killers like the Clown and Wraith need to be reworked in order to give them a little boost.
Mori's should only work on death hook.
This isn't to say keys aren't a problem, they are, and they need to change too, but they need to change both at the same time.
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Moris are needed ... LOL ... never needed any for my 75% 3 or 4ks. But I guess I am OP. As Trapper Main. Without Addons. In Redranks.
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Couldn't NOED directly replace the Mori here and "help" that Legion get those same 3 kills? The main difference I'd see there would be one is preventable while the other is much less so
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My opinion as a Rank 11 (yup middddddle) Killer is that Mori's are MUCH more interesting than a 3rd hook death by faaarrr.
When killed by one after only 1 hook it is a bummer because my game is short. When using my mori/Ruin as a killer I only murder after 2 hooks or LATE game because I don't care about winning so much as having a good game. Barely winning or Barely losing is still fun for me, as killer or survivor. Everyone knows what a 3rd hook or a spacebar slapping 2nd hook death looks like. Been there, done that.
My poor Ruin is destroyed 80% of the time so I never get that 5th pip kill...so Mori's are the only salvation for spicing up the End of a Survivor.
Never Camp, Never Tunnel, Expect to lose 1/2 your games and HAVE SOME FUN in the FOG!!!
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I think there is a bit of difference between slowing the game down, and cutting the game short.
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Do you think it would be fair if survivors had an offering that made it so they only have to do two generators before the exit gates are powered? Mind you, the offering would be Ultra Rare, and therefore appear in every second bloodweb, just like ebony moris do for killers.
Seriously, if you unironically need to rely on ebony moris to win matches then I don't know what to tell you.
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Dont forget about the following ultra rare bloodweb items
Map, Syringe, Bulb, BNP that would also dilute its appearance
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So eliminating one person from the game slows the game down not make people gen rush and play immersed to avoid getting one hooked mori'd because at that point you're right it does techincally slow the game down but if you're not interacting with survivors at all is it really a game at that point?
I've seen more survivors kill themselves on first hook because of moris more than anything else. And mori games tend to be the shortest games so like...I'm not understanding this logic.
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