Freddy rework

How is he not boring? The only people who I think could possibly love playing new Freddy are people who play purely to win. There's nothing fun about actually playing him, as all of his abilities are passive bonuses, even his blood pools are pretty passive. They might as well place themselves. The only fun Freddy is Pallet Freddy but even then, it's just something he gets for doing something he's already doing. There's just no skill expression to him whatsoever. If you can play any other character in the game, you can play Freddy, and likely do better with him than your main. Even when I think up cool build ideas for Freddy, I'm just like "But this is just more 'the game playing itself for me'"

I enjoyed the Nightmare on Elm Street movies myself. Freddy is one of my favorite slashers. As for escaping vs Freddy, I don't have much of a problem, but his entire skillset is literally passive. Your friend likely isn't doing anything that any other Freddy wouldn't think of doing, that's why I said the traps might as well place themselves. It just forces an early pallet drop. The micro sleep isn't the only thing passive about him. He passively gets increased teleport speed for every asleep survivor, the micro sleep is literally the best thing in his kit against people who think they should wake themselves up. His addons as well, completely passive, outside of the one you just mentioned and his pallet ones. As for winning while using the addon that gives extra BP, I'm not surprised. I have a build that can make it where I don't even have to place puddles to win as long as my totems aren't broken too early. It's basically Forever Freddy V2, but far worse, it's one of the "cool builds" I thought up, but it again, just basically plays the game for me.

You only need 2 snares per pallet to make them force a drop and be practically unable to loop it normally. Honestly the fact that the puddles are the same looking could just trick someone into dropping a pallet early. I also forgot to mention the free omnidirectional terror radius when asleep. He's just full of a bunch of things that just make him a better killer without really doing anything to separate him from anyone else really. I do agree survivors are idiots a lot of the time, but Freddy doesn't necessarily have anything that expresses his skill, unless you count "placement of puddles" as expression of skill. There's no real need to THINK about where you place them because you don't lose movement speed for doing so, you can just place as many of them as you want in a chase pretty much without even thinking. I dunno, these are just my feelings(although really there isn't anything to think about in terms of skill expressiveness).

Isn't that the point? You could play literally anyone else and you would basically be playing Freddy. All the passive stuff does most of the work for him. That's more or less what I was saying, and why I consider him boring.

I don't think everyone disagrees with me, either though, as there was a post not too long ago asking why many people called Freddy boring. I will say a lot of complaints on that topic were more about how strong he was, with some killer biased snarky remarks sprinkled in as well, but I'm sure others shared my sentiments.

As for where we disagree? Where exactly? Me saying that you could literally be playing anyone else and you'd basically be playing Freddy? Or where I said all the passive stuff did most of the work for him? Because you said yourself, "He is as pure of an M1 killer as it gets. Sure he has snares and pallets but if survivors stay awake then that'll be an issue for him", which is basically agreeing with my statement. You have even said that his snares aren't even that important, in which case he's literally just going to chase people around and slap them, just like any other killer would. Not sure where exactly we disagree. The only thing I can guess would be that purely chasing with nothing else is boring.

I like chases, don't get me wrong. I just feel Freddy is extremely boring in chases. because it's the same thing I'd be doing if I were playing practically anyone else. I much prefer killers like Legion or Spirit(even though Spirit's still kinda OP honestly imo). I would like Nurse as well, if she wasn't a buggy mess right now and I could play her. Myers is probably my favorite killer, either him or Legion. There's just so much you can do with Myers. I'm never playing the exact same game.

Btw, the build I'm talking about with Freddy where the game practically plays itself is: Ruin, Huntress Lullaby, BBQ, and Dying Light, with Red Paint Brush and Blue Dress(you could also use Blue Dress and Green Dress but I use Red Paint Brush so that they can never wake up and every time they fail a skill check the generator basically triggers Pop Goes the Weasel). Of course this depends on your Huntress Lullaby not getting destroyed early game and allowing you to get Dying Light stacks, but survivors ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS will miss skill checks every now and then, whether you chase them off when they get one, or they just miss one. No one has 100% skill check rate. This is basically Pop without needing to hook anyone. Well, maybe minus 5%. It's pretty damn strong if you can get it going. Once you get the Dying Light stacks you don't need the Lullaby anymore. If you have both blue and green dress, it's even stronger, but everyone has to not wake up for it to be viable. Basically it's Forever Freddy, but worse. BBQ also isn't necessary, I just use it for BP. Dying Light can be replaced with another perk if you'd prefer but you'd be giving up power once Lullaby is broken.

Again, that is where we disagree. I think he is fine as is with his chases, I main Spirit as well. And I don't particularly play Freddy well.

That's why I said you find him boring, but me and the people I know don't.