Lore explanation for Multiple Clauds
I've always wondered, is there any sort of lore explanation on why (for example) 4 Claudettes can be in the same trial?
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The devs have stated that it's solely for gameplay purposes. Canonically, there is only one Claudette, only one Ash, only one Dwight, only one Adam, etc.
It's just done so anyone can play anyone they want and not be locked out because someone else picked that same Survivor.
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Got it. Thanks. In my mind I was thinking maybe the entity uses some sort of time distortion or something (think of the movie Triangle) to make a single survivor suffer multiple times at once.
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This is something I actually find extremely interesting and fun to talk about, so let me explain (hopefully without ranting EDIT: I ended up ranting oh well. Read the history and then read the second explanation, the first is just a kind of offhand that some people have thought of before)
The place where survivors now find themselves in is not the real world, at best you can say it's sort of like a parallel dimension but really there's no other way to describe it than "The Realm of The Entity".
Most of what the entity is is an unknown mystery. Its motives, intentions, how it works mechanically / biologically is more or less incomprehensible and horror indescribable.
So already the answer is going great because we're admitting to knowing basically next to nothing.
However, there are a few things we do know and with what little information we have we can cobble together a reasonable explanation.
History / background info.
The entity, which is not exactly on the same plane of existence as the real world can actually pull survivors and killers from different time periods (and also dimensions, technically / supposedly). One of the very first characters we are introduced to: Benedict Baker is one of the first indications of this messed up chronology as one of his diary entries is dated 1956 but a few entries later there is a new date: 1896, which is repeated on many of his other entries about the entity, the bloodweb, the heartbeat, etc.
Benedict Baker's journal entry about The Hillbilly specifically makes little sense as the first hand-held, motorised Chainsaws weren't invented until in 1918 and thus a man that was taken into the Entity's Realm in 1896 should not know about their existence, let alone how to use one.
What we can gather from this (and basically what I just took a long time explaining even though the devs confirmed it in a sentence) is time does not exist in the realm of the entity. If we go back to one of the first sentences I said "the place where survivors now find themselves in is not the real world" you can also use this to infer that this place is not bound or perhaps only loosely bound by the same laws that govern our own reality. Laws about Time, Space, etc.
So now to answer your question there are two explanations for this, one is simple, and one is far more intriguing and thought provoking.
First explanation
The first is that the entity pulls from different dimensions the same person, this also neatly enough explains the different outfits that exist in the game they are all different versions of the same person. Take Dwight for example, two Dwight's spawn in a trial: one is wearing "The Great Gas Jockey" outfit and another is wearing the "Mr. Elf" outfit. This is in fact the same person Dwight Fairfield but from two different dimensions or times in two different dimensions, one where he was working as an employee at "Phil's Petrol" and another where he "he secured a part-time job at the mall. [over the holidays]"
However, this theory doesn't fit well since in every survivor's bio we are given more or less the circumstance or single canonical moment in time that they disappeared. Or were "taken" to the realm of the entity This was the one for Dwight:
"One weekend, on a team-building exercise from his dead-end job, Dwight's boss led them deep into the woods before breaking out his family recipe moonshine. Dwight remembered taking the first sip before waking up late the next morning all alone. During the night, the others had abandoned him. Once again, the laughing stock of the community Dwight tried to hike his way out of the woods. That was the last anyone ever heard of Dwight Fairfield."
Second explanation
The second which I believe is more reliable is a more science heavy explanation, and relies more on the lack of the existence of Time. Here's the best way to think about it: say you were in your room at home alone and then you walk out of your room. 5 minutes later, you walk back into your room and then walk out again. Thirty minutes later you walk back into your room.
Now take that same circumstance, and say time doesn't exist, throw it out the window. What happens? What is there to distinguish between you walking into your room 5 minutes later and thirty minutes later? Nothing. You walking into your room 5 minutes in the future and thirty minutes in the future is no longer separated by the time between because it no longer exists so you actually walk in at the same time
At that point you can't even call it the future anymore, because it's all mixed and mingled, it's the past the future and the present all happening at once. So the first Dwight is from 5 minutes ago, the second Dwight is from 15 minutes ago, the third Dwight is from 30 minutes in the future and the fourth is from now. Except there is no "now" because there is no time. And to each one of those Dwight's "Then" is "now" and they are all experiencing it in the same moment at the same exact "time".
So basically:
tl;dr Time does not Exist.
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Yeah the second one is kind of what I was thinking, though slightly different. The movie Triangle displays it where theres a chick, shes trying to save her past self from her future self. Its super interesting stuff. Anytime youre dealing with something that sits outside our own dimension Time becomes a funny thing. They should make it cannon that the entity sometimes manipulates time to put the same survivor through the same trial as extra punishment.
It could be a simple short story too, maybe Jeff stopped fearing the trials so tge entity made him experience 1 trial 4 tines all at tge same time to bring his fear back. Something like that.@Seiko300
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I think it also provides an extra layer to the twisted nature of the trials. Because in that situation, you're sitting next to yourself on a generator (which all by itself is crazy) but then he gets caught and you go hide and he gets hooked. Do you save him? But... he's not him, he's you and what happens if you die? Will that be you later? Or... was that you before? Under the intense pressure of a murderous killer hunting you down you try to wrap your head around it and it's just impossible. Because there's no way to distinguish it all, you've been here for so long, or have you? It feels like centuries... or.. yesterday?
It really adds an element of mental torture on top of the already gruesome nature of the trials. Something I don't think people who don't read / look into the lore much less analyze it completely understand. Of course this isn't something that's exactly confirmed, but it does make a lot of sense given what we've got.
I think the devs also confirmed that some survivors wake up in each new trial believing that it's their first. Which is both messed up, and yet in its own way, a kind of mercy.
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Don't agree with that TLDR but this is almost exactly what I've always thought. Different times to have the same character but different outfits, and different universes (which is why some people can wear bizarre outfits in game), whatever they wear actually makes sense to them. However, the lore itself is always a bit weird. According to the Legion (teen edgelord) bio, they were taken after killing the janitor. However, Susie's Rat costume says that she was taken after she killed the janitor because she had a passion for crime, where as she was timid in the bio. Or Dwight's parachute outfit, he got taken when he landed in the forest parachuting versus getting left behind and then taken. It's always struck me as hopeless that no matter what you did in life, you'd still end up in the Fog. The choices you made might have changed other people on Earth, but you won't see how they changed people because you'll be stuck forever and gone in the Fog.
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I really love this community and the theories and headcanons you guys craft it's probably one of the best and none elements of this community.
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In saying that I do think you guys are going a little overboard in crafting an idea behind something that's just a game mechanic.
Since there's no universal group loadout pool for survivors everyone has their own individual loadouts it would be really annoying for example considering I main Min and sometimes Yui ( my only two survivors with all the perks and it's pretty much going to remain that way) that I couldn't play either because two people were playing them before I hit the lobby and then I was forced to play Claudette who has nothing good on her
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Well we get that its just a game mechanic (and a good one), but some of us are nerds that need everything to be lore based so we look for explanations. I do tge same thing with movie franchises that have poor continuity from one movie to another. Like Halloween jumping from Halloween 6 to Halloween h20, in reality they pretended all those movies didnt exist, but in my mind laurie faked her death and left jaime behind after part 2, that way everything fits.
Nerd. I know.
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Yeah exactly, its like the dntity adding in another layer of psychological torture. Its bad ass
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That ending is kind of a good explanation for why some survivors are bad at looping even if their character has been released for a long time, like a new Nea compared to a god Nea who can loop the killer for 5 gens
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Lol, I never thought of it like that but good point
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Oh wow, they've said that different versions of survivors come from different realms. Parallel universes and stuff. Do they really change lore this fast? Even when it's not about cash (looking at you, Demogorgon)?
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Would be the first I've heard of this honestly. It's been pretty consistent as far as I know.
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