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What's your idea on No One Left Behind

casonius
casonius Member Posts: 29
in Polls

Since the exit gates are now generally left closed as long as possible, and NOLB was niche to begin with, do you guys think NOLB needs a buff / change?

I don't recall ever seeing this perk, when conceptually, it's pretty cool.

Genuinely interested in you guys' ideas

What's your idea on No One Left Behind 25 votes

Keep as is
8%
Dr_Trauts[Deleted User] 2 votes
Keep as is but buff the stats even more
0%
Combine No One Left Behind and Hope,
0%
Add the Borrowed Time effect to No One Left Behind, but only once the gates are open
8%
Multiplenamescasonius 2 votes
Trigger No One Left Behind once all generators are active
68%
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Other
16%
Seiko300KernelzillaGreenPufferFishGreentheNinja 4 votes

Comments

  • TheRockstarKnight
    TheRockstarKnight Member Posts: 2,171
    edited May 2020
    Trigger No One Left Behind once all generators are active

    It's a really fun perk now, but with the EGC present you'll want to 99% the Exit Gates until you're all ready to leave.

    So you're put into a situation where you either start the timer of death or you just let your otherwise decently strong 4th perk be useless.

    This would be an interesting choice if DbD was a 1v1 game.

    But it's a 4v1.

    I shouldn't be encouraged to potentially screw over other players so that I can activate my perk.

    Besides the perk is only decent; it doesn't really need a 3 minute timer attached to it.

  • Seiko300
    Seiko300 Member Posts: 1,862
    edited May 2020
    Other

    No one Left Behind is a completely obsolete perk and its function is more or less completely useless because of how niche it is. Even as a BP bonus perk it only activates at the very tail end of a match which tops is three minutes.

    If you're looking for a similar perk to run We'll Make It is 10x better, more reliable, more consistent, and it helps you throughout the entirety of a match.

    This is one of those old perks from 2016 that has not aged well at all (especially with the EGC) and needs a complete rework. Buffing stats doesn't change the fact it doesn't help you for 90% of the match and is woefully ineffective for the other 10%. However, I'm not a fan of mixing and matching perks together, which it appears is something OP tried to push forward through the poll options, that just doesn't seem like a good idea for the sake of perk diversity. I don't want actual good or somewhat decent perks like Hope, or Borrowed Time to be thrown under the bus because of the perk that hasn't been updated for almost four years now.

  • TheRockstarKnight
    TheRockstarKnight Member Posts: 2,171
    Trigger No One Left Behind once all generators are active
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1272976#Comment_1272976

    The funny thing is; they did buff it recently. It now doubles Altruism bloodpoint scoring events, increases all altruistic actions speeds (including unhooking) by 50%, and provides vision of the auras of every remaining Survivor...

    ...just, only after an Exit Gate is open.

    ...

    If I didn't use it myself in my Stupid Hero Dwight build, I'm pretty sure that I'd never see it on a post game results screen. Ever.

    And it's understandable why.

  • casonius
    casonius Member Posts: 29
    Add the Borrowed Time effect to No One Left Behind, but only once the gates are open
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1272976#Comment_1272976

    I dont understand how combining NOLB with Hope would throw Hope under the bus. Its literally a buff for both. Also it wouldnt throw BT under the bus, it would just add BT once the gates are open. You get a far better version of BT but only once the gates are open.

    And as for saying its obsolete, that's exactly my point. What do you do with an obsolete perk? you change it so it becomes viable. That's the point of this poll: to find out what people think would be good ways to make NOLB viable.

  • GreenPufferFish
    GreenPufferFish Member Posts: 498
    Other

    i think it should happen at start of game