Farming BP with survivor is annoying
yesterday i played around 50x round survivor and i got around 500k BP
after that i switched to killer played a little bit maybe 10x rounds and i had around 700K BP
the difference is just hillarious. i know as survivor you need to share your BP with other survivors and as killer you dont have this problem but i think its just unfair for a survivor to wait 10min for a lobby to end up with 15k BP per match.
Killer lobbys are instant and even if you play bad you will get 15KBP + BBQ + Survivor pudding
devs please do something about that. i play both sides but some days i just dont have the mood to play killer
rework WGLF or any other options for survivors.
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The issues with survivor bp is that everything you do is reactionary to the killer rather than proactive on your part. A survivor CAN get full BP in a game but it's so dependent on your teammates and the killers actions that it is rare.
Killer is bad and can't get hits/hooks; no altruism. Killer tunnels you? No survival/objectives. Killer can't chase to save their life? No boldness. Etc etc etc.
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And this is the reason that I became a killer main
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Dont survivors also need items tho?
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The same items that don't disappear after they run out of charges and can be found in chests, you mean?
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And the add ons? The ones lost after a match?
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Agreed but the amazing devs reworked it so add ons are lost even if you escape and there like 50 add ons for survivor and majority of those are usless. If the add on change didnt happen id be fine with the bp gap
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Survivors also have more perks to get. This doesn't include unlocking the teachables either.
The thing is your saying about the killer needing to restock add-ons but as survivor we have a lot more different add-ons to unlock. Which means we have a far fewer selection of each add-on overall and they are mostly useless. Then if we take into account the que times and the difference between WGLF and BBQ it's night and day how easy it is to earn bp as killer.
I would just like my points per minute as survivor to be a bit closer to killer.
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I'm not trying to argue about the BP itself here but to be fair survivors have both Plunderer's and Ace in the Hole. And Pharmacy if you count that. Killers don't have something to just get the equivalent to free items. If there was a perk like that where I could just kick a chest like a generator and pick up a free bonus item I can exit the game with, I'd be equipping that left and right.
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Your matches had an average of 10k if you made 500k in 50 games. This means you aren't really doing enough.
You also bring up using BBQ but didn't mention wglf, while not quite as good it does increase your BP along with aurcivor BP offerings.
I average around 40-50k per survivor match using wglf. Add in a BP offering and I wouldn't be far off your killer points. It comes down to the individual.
You also have to think as a solo survivor you do have the option to move on to another match while the killer has to stay till the end each time. So taking the average playtime in game instead of matches played gives a better representation of the difference.
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You realize killers' powers don't deplete after a match, right? Just the add ons? So... the exact same thing that happens to survivors.
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You averaged 10k per match as survivor? Are you just sitting in a corner or do you just suicide on hook? This is so little it's insane to consider it a good measure for the average player.
And 70k per killer match? Even with bbq the max is 64k. So you included bbq and an offering for killer, but didn't do the same for survivor?
This is just a troll post right?
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I to play on both sides equally and personally I don’t always like the killer side at times .
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A lot of the problem is still related to matchmaking you can get varied skill killers I believe getting that addressed could allow them to see the data clearly. Then they can begin to address the BP gap. Just my opinion though.
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You gotta choose between bp and having fun
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I use killer to farm bps,survivors bps gain is a joke.
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That what i do on a survivor i plan on playing around with for awhile i only just level up. Take Plunderers and Ace in the hole, loot some chests. Hope i get something that is not a brown toolbox. Than try my hardest to escape or in some cases, get a key, die, keep the key due to it spawning with a certain add on. That or die but watch the match, as my team mates use the key i looted to escape. It's like extra blood points. Which is why i like to call these matches stock up runs.
If i could do that on certain killers that are more add on heavy, like ghostface. Yeah i would do it in the heart beat, in hopes of getting some free chewed pens or at least stocking up on them.
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If only :')
Yeah I know exactly what you mean. When I play with those items, it's super common for me to find at least green items (bless Commodious) and sometimes even purple or pink. Things like keys can be game changers. Also, even if it ends up being a brown medkit or something, with Ace in the Hole you can end up getting a styptic from it and it doesn't really matter because it's good anyway. Love me those two perks together.
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well yes i get around 10K-20K points each match without using WGLF, WGLF is a useless perk and gives you no benefits like BBQ does.
when a survivor needs to play around 50x matches to get the same amount what a killer can get in 10-15 matches then here is something wrong.
i play in the evening and my survivor lobbys take 5-10 minutes + average 10min gameplay makes me wait atleast 15min
means every 15min i get around 20K BP
as killer lobbys are instant and you get around 50K-90K BP
ok lets see how long it takes as survivor to get 1mil BP.. its around 9-10 hours
as killer 10min each match atleast 50KBP = 3hours to get 1mil and im talking about the least number because most of my matches i get 90K BP with BBQ and pudding.
and even if you use WGLF what gives you pretty much no benefits.. tell me what are the chances to get 4 saves in one match? everyone is rushing the hooks anyways so?
now again where is the fairness when we compare these numbers
9-10 hours grinding vs 3 hours grinding
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well you forgot about facecamping, tunneling, slugging killers
also mori using killers OR a killer plays bad and tunnels just one person you have no chance to gain BPs
what about first thinking before commenting ? :)
well BBQ gives you atleast a benefit tell me what benefits WGLF gives you? tell me why someone would ever waste a perk slot for that? and most of the matches you cant got saves because if you rush the hooks nobody does gens and that is every match for me with the potatos i get in my team. now tell me what should i focus on, loopping, doing gens or rushing every hook?
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Queue times are being worked on. Some region are worse than others.
WGLF is not useless I get 4 stacks almost every game and I don't hook rush. You also don't need to unhook and take a hit instead to gain stacks. That seems more of a player issue. They are also working on something more for WGLF right now.
As I said take it over actual game time and not wait time as that will be fixed soon enough.
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Those are a minority, and when those happen is when I get around 10k bps... so again, are you sitting in a corner?
well BBQ gives you atleast a benefit tell me what benefits WGLF gives you? tell me why someone would ever waste a perk slot for that?
Besides extra bloodpoints? Nothing... but that's a silly question.
Let me rephrase it... "why would anyone use this perk besides the very obvious benefit it provides?"... see? It's silly.
I agree it should have something extra aswell, but can we please NOT pretend it doesn't do anything?
and most of the matches you cant got saves because if you rush the hooks nobody does gens and that is every match for me with the potatos i get in my team.
And if the killer always picks you up unbreakable won't help. And if the survivors always heal you, any healing perk you have is unneeded. And if you only get hooked after everyone is dead, DS is useless, so is deliverence. If you never get injured, dead hard is useless, so is resilience and iron will.
We can play what if all day mate, no perk will be useful 100% of the time, no perk is useless 100% of the time.
now tell me what should i focus on, loopping, doing gens or rushing every hook?
Whatever you'll benefit from the most in the match? This isn't nascar mate, you don't just turn left 4 times, you gotta understand the situation and act accordingly.
And real quick, if you get potatoes every single game, it probably means you are the potato.
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"And real quick, if you get potatoes every single game, it probably means you are the potato."
oh yes you're right im the potato on rank 1 with +2K hours who gets 3 useless teammates who get downed after 10 seconds, who dont know how to press M1, how to play optimal. while ME the real potato tries to carry the team and get people out. yes you're right im the potato who does every single game 3-4 gens, yes im the potato who needs to deal with 3man swf who hook bombs and all get slugged after 30 seconds and again ME who needs to run to them to save the game. how couldnt i think about that, that IM the real potato here.
you dont play soloQ do you? because if you really do you would have known how the game goes 90% of the time. Yes you're right dude im the potato.
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Dude, you seriously need to chill 🤣🤣
Also, I basically only play solo.
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