Survive with friends feedback
I have been playing a survivor for awhile which is cool but am very discouraged to play a killer the big reason is the toxic survive with friends. How is this aloud its so cheating in every way possible. This game is tyring to be a slasher movie yes? In slasher movies there are no coms to communicate.. It ######### over the killer really bad.. The other thing about it that is really bad is this.. My gf is rank 20 killer, she wanted to try and play the killer because she loves the hag and huntress.. How is she supposed to learn the game when 1 rank 20 survivor comes in with 3 rank 1 survive with friends.. i think certain ranks should not be aloud in lower ranks what so ever it discourages new killers to play the game with expert survivors.. For me i hate it just as much from the survivor side.. The survive with friend teams i play with as the fourth survivor are also really toxic.. They are more concerned on farming the none survive with friends memeber and tea bagging the killer than playing the game. May I suggest you do this... For ranked games, only allow solo queues.. This makes it fair for everyone.. Do not balance the game around swf because there are a ton of solos out there.. Instead make another mode that is for casual mode.. In casual mode you can use the swf option, and if a killer wants to play it you can offer them more bp for doing so... You could also make weekly bonuses for doing it like shards and such.. After playing this game sense beta and seeing it grow i can say right now that SWF needs to be changed that is why people keep saying survivors are op etc, its because of damn coms and swf so i ask if you can please do something about this even though you wont listen because it ruins the new killers experience and even mine as a survivor..
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I agree for the casual mode but well I think killers don't want to play with SWF (they are also call toxic but not every group of friends are), so they will be in this mode no killers. It's a bit sad when you play with friends but not in vocal, just together and yeah you can't verify that. I have the same problem when I play my hag (and every other killers but I'm a hag main) I'm rank 13 and sometimes you have rank 2 or 6?! #########, no just no. Flashlight, 360, teabag are not my cup of tea for now, you're game is just ruin because of this. And you know what? They arrived one by one, so it's not even SWF. What's wrong with the rank system? Don't tell me there is not enough survivors rank 13/12 or 14. That's the same thing when I play solo survivor. Rank 20 killer and I'm rank 6. That's just not fair. I understand that SWF is not fair at least on vocal, I know it's better for killers without that, I also play killer, that makes me just a bit sad because if you remove that possibility everyone who likes to play with friends but not on vocal will be in the same bag as the others with vocal.
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But this is a slasher game.. In slasher movies people do not have walkie talkies to spoil everyting.. It takes away from the tension.. I think maybe the anit cheat thing could pick up discord and other communication devices running in the background and if it picks it up it maybe might not let them queue? However people uses swf as an exploit to get their low rank friends to rank 1.. They have one rank 20 friend and 3 rank 1 survivors.. So the poor killers they play against who are rank 20 have to go against 3 rank 1 people.. Sorry i don't think anyone would want to play that trying to already learn how to play the game.. Killers are not that weak but what makes them weak is swf and playing against swf teams who are way higher rank and have 10000s of hours in the game.. It's really annoying and like i said im a survivor main.. I only played killers a few times and saw what was going on in lobbys after the match.. Don't you think as well if all killers don't want to play with swf then it shouldn't be in the game lol.. You can already tell when it is swf when they pop in and out lol.. But for streamers and people who are high rank and want bloodpoints and a challenge they could go to the swf area casual mode to play against them. I don't think you would play against the rank 1 when your rank 20 if it wasn't for survive with friends but i might be wrong lol..
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No you're totally right. Killers are not stupid, I know when someone play with friends; someone find ruin, you chase him, woaw someone else take you down ruin. Coincidence? Sometimes but not always. It would be supercool if they can detect communication device and just take you out of the game and let just friends with no voc play. But yeah, friends should be the same rank. SWF is a problem and shouldn't be in the game, like you said this is a slasher game, so sorry for survivors but killer must be the stronger one, and that's sadly not the case. That's not normal.
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Survive with friends is on average a decent mechanic. It is also where a majority of the survivor player base comes from. From what I've seen, heard, and read, survive with friends groups falls into 3 categories:
Competitive Squads
Competitive Squads move around the trial with unbalanced tactics and coordination. Their objective is to rank up and also to have as many allies survive as possible. While they are an extremely challenging opponent, matches with them are usually very short as they use their comms to work on 2+ gens almost constantly. They know how quickly a good game can go sour for them so they get their gens and a save or two then everyone leaves at once. I honestly don't have a problem with these groups. Sure, I'm gonna lose and that stinks but at least the match will end quickly and I can find another (hopefully more enjoyable) match sooner.
Toxic Squads
Toxic squads just suck, but they can sometimes "double suck" which is actually great. A good toxic squad is just awful to play against. They will repair generators a little slower than the comp squads and will stick around even after they've won just for points and the infamous "T-Bags". The match will be longer as sometimes they all gather at gates to T-Bag you as you approach, other times one man will remain for the hatch or just run around the map for half-an-hour with the sole intent of wasting your time. On the bright side sometimes these toxic players get too boosted and start messing up a lot. This gives killers the power to 4k them depending on how the overall match has gone. I detest these squads as they just suck the fun out of everything. If they do anything post-game though you can report them, so that's a plus.
Casual Squads
Casual Squads are the most commonly seen survive with friends group type. These groups can vary in size from 2 to 4 survivors and they just chill out. They bought Dead by Daylight as a group horror game probably and generally stick together and try to avoid the killer. Matches with them can vary wildly from skilled matches lasting 5 minutes or more while new matches lasting ages with less than 3 generators finished. I enjoy playing with and against these squads as we're all just playing the game. Sometimes you get some hook farmers or noobs, other times you get masters with thousands of hours under their belts. The odds of this are relatively random so it evens out overall all. Survive with friends is a good mechanic it just needs to be balanced around the Competitive Squads.
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