You know the killer is supposed to kill you, right?

"I also do view killer as if I am hosting the party and survivors are my guests."

You are amazing. I am happy that people like you exist! <3

There once was a time when some survivors would sacrifice themselves at endgame to a killer that obviously struggled during the match. Those days are long gone sadly. Now, they just crush you, laugh, and leave. I still do it when I notice the killer having a hard time. I still pip, or even double pip, so I don't mind dying. I know the feeling of getting your ass handed to you as killer, and walking away with nothing.

Yeah, I just need to get off this forum, honestly. These people are absolutely the most entitled, toxic people I've ever seen in any gaming community. And they act as if they're the "good guys" because they're just trying to spread their Good Word to other players.

Indeed. Every tactic has a use, you just can't lean on any one of them

Normally I never camp a hook. It's just not interesting, and it's usually not beneficial to me, either. But last night on an Oni match I fully admit that I camped SUPER hard. Full on pitched a tent, lit a campfire, and roasted some marshmallows. Why, you ask? Well, I was getting schooled. Was playing another perkless/no-addon game for practice and the survivors were honestly too good for me to get away with that.

But they made one big error: The last 3 gens were all packed together in a corner of the map.

So you're goddamned right that I set up a campsite worthy of legend over in that corner, and every time I downed a survivor I made damn sure that I gave them my full attention to make sure they enjoyed their stay in Casa Del Corner. Turned out to be a 4k when it probably should have been a 0k if they had just rushed a little less and paid attention to the gen layout.

Sometimes the necessary strategy is messy. That's just how it is sometimes. But honestly, what else was I to do? The entire game collapsed into that tiny little corner, every remaining gen was there, all 4 survivors were there, so why would I go somewhere else?

Tickle's and a hug is the killers job!!!

People keep trying to make this equivalency, except no one actually says this #########. People get frustrated by stuff like flashlights, sure, but I've never seen killers - as a community - saying the things about survivors that survivors seem to believe about killers. Literally no killer goes around saying, "Toxic dick survivor looped me!"

(Some people do whine about genrushing, but that's nonsense, too. It's just the survivors job. They do it exactly as fast as the killer lets them. Of course they're always "rushing" it, that's their job.)

Just look at this thread. People have already said that a killer is, "selfish", "childish", "toxic", "a dick", "indecent", "disrespectful" and survivors even justifying quitting or disconnecting. Why? Because a killer chased someone they don't think the killer should have chased. That's literally it. They see the killer chasing Survivor X when they believe the killer should not have, and therefore is deserving of everything said above.

And the worst part is that they really seem to believe that they're the good guys in the equation. That by holding these beliefs about other players, making demands with regards to other peoples gameplay, and engaging in these behaviors, they're actually better people than the killers they're backseating, judging and insulting. That they're the ones holding the "mutual respect" and being "decent people".

Also, *the killer is not a dick for winning*. What leads survivors to think that? So you died and depipped, that's part of playing a game, sometimes you lose. That the killer is not a decoration, they're an obstacle. Their goal is to stop you from escaping. That's it.

If you only knew... The things I have been called in end-chat for looping and doing my best to escape a chase. I know the killers job is to kill, and I actually dont mind not getting out, as long as I feel the killer actually made an effort to make the game fun and fair for all, instead of tunneling, face-camping and slugging just to get their 4K within 3 minutes. It's like not only do they want to win, but they don't want survivors to get any points either, and it seems like its just quantity over quality ,and I think that's sad. I don't mind a killer doing their job, hell even if they Mori me, if I feel we had a good match, where everyone had a fair chance, and the killer didn't feel the need to just rush through it to get 4k, even if it wasn't fun for anyone. But that's just my opinion. I do realise that many killers just focus so damn hard on points, that the quality of the match doesn't matter.

I used to play both sides but I play killer mainly now because of the long wait times in survivor lobbies. When I play killer I don't play to make sure survivors have "fun" doing gens, looping, flashlight clicking and teabagging me as they escape through the gates. Survivors objective is to stay alive and escape by any means necessary and mine is to put and end to that by any means necessary. Camping, tunneling, slugging are all methods I use to do that. Its a competition. 4 VS 1. I never forget this playing both sides. I don't need or care for "GGs" I play for BP and to win. I don't use Moris for this reason as I prefer the 3rd hook. If you don't enjoy or can deal with losing to your opponent then your playing the wrong game.

Also If you have a problem with survivor lobbies then blame yourself for the fact that the reason your having to wait so long is because there aren't enough killers to go around to spread amongst all the survivors playing the game. Why? because you can't handle the stress or want to deal with playing the killer role. So the next time you want to B**** about killers being "unfair" why don't all you survivor mains out there stop playing so much survivor and help the health of the community and play killer more than survivor and see how your rules for how killers should "play with respect" will apply to the way YOU play against 4 survivors.

@alaenyia not to completely disagree with you but I was put off playing killers for a long time, and still have my settings to block messages (PS4 albeit) precisely because I was getting VERY good with hag and wraith. But I was getting a lot of abuse every match. I win? I was (insert insult of choice) , I'd cheated, I had no skill etc etc. If I lost? I was even worse. Might as well no play, N00b, wasting peoples time even playing.

Survivors can be toxic. Sometimes I had positive messages but it got so bad...

... 😏 Saying that, using Wraith with Insidious really annoys people... Who knew quietly moving to a bottle neck, uncloaking and ambushing people was frowned upon... 😏

The same can be said for killers that complain about survivors escaping, that's their job. Should I make a post about that to counter yours?

The thing is, killers get a lot more points and a better chance of pip if they get more kills. You might argue that survivors have to survive to get more points, but that's just not true. Survivors have a lot more bp potential, like totems, gens, chests, unhooks, etc. Killer only has one job. A survivor can go a whole game just doing generators, searching chests, and cleansing totems, and probably still pip once or twice. If the killer doesn't get any more than two kills, he better pray to God that he got enough points in the other categories, which can be very difficult at times.

We should also remember it is the survivors job to work as a team to escape. Stop getting salty when a survivor doesn’t run on a straight line for you, tries to prevent you from hooking their teammates and doing the objective as quick as possible.

The killers job is to prevent survivors from escaping, the survivors job is to escape. Not a hard concept. It’s the players choice if they want to complete their tasks in a manner that is fair or if they want to intentionally upset the other team. It’s not difficult to do the objective without being toxic. You don’t need to t bag the killer after you stun them, you don’t need to shake your head at a survivor who ran you for a little longer than you liked.