3-genning is overrated

danielmaster87
danielmaster87 Member Posts: 10,719

People keep stressing how 'broken' 3-genning is, especially on killers like Doctor or Legion. I disagree. Unless you're up against nooby green ranks, any competent team of survivors can overcome a 3-gen.

The last time I 3-genned, it was Deathslinger I'll admit, I felt that I played it perfect and the survivors still somehow did a gen in my 3-gen, and that led to some getting away. I was even on Suffocation Pit which is supposedly the best map to 3-gen on. I kept everyone injured, kept braking pallets while also keeping gens in check, but then all of a sudden one popped. Last I checked it was very low progress and I couldn't have been away from it for more than 20 seconds. Turns out everyone being injured was irrelevant, because they were a bunch of gen rushing Adrenaline gamers.

So the next time someone says 3-genning is a fool proof strategy, don't take their word for it. It's just smoke and mirrors.

Comments

  • Respectfulnancymain
    Respectfulnancymain Member Posts: 1,816

    I played 30 games as doctor, hag and trapper where my only goal was to 3 gen

    Lets just say more then 70% of my games were 4ks

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 10,719

    You must have gone against potatoes. And were lucky to get a 4k since the game gives the last survivor a free escape, unless you find the hatch before they do.

  • CashelP14
    CashelP14 Member Posts: 5,565

    3 gen strats definitely not overrated. You need to get a few hooks before that stage but the 3 gen is extremely strong.

    The only thing I will say is green ranks are more likely to set up the 3 gen whereas good red ranks won't let you get a proper 3 gen. The other another thing is sometimes maps don't have a great 3 gen and it can hurt you late game.

  • Dead_by_Gadfly
    Dead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,772

    With hag and trapper 3 genning is required at high levels FOR SURE.

    I disagree. I have games where tge survivors and I fight over tge 3 gen before 2 gens are even done. Keep thinking its overrated though, i hope everyone believes that

  • Joelwino
    Joelwino Member Posts: 550

    Yep, a competent team. The problem arises when 1 or 2 of your teammates are dead before the three gen happens, then you just want to get the game over with.

  • metalklok
    metalklok Member Posts: 632

    Its almost an instant win to 3 gen while you have killed at least 1 survivor if you killed 2 survivors i dont know how you could even lose doing 3 gens just patrol the gens and kick.

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    3-genning is really boring. If it happens randomly, fine, survivors fault. But if a killer only defends and kicks 3 gens all game. Thats as boring as it gets. No chases, no interaction. Just 5 people waiting forever for the other side to make a mistake. Boooooring.

  • Dead_by_Gadfly
    Dead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,772

    That would be a really stupid thing for a killer to do. Youre not winning a 3 gen with only 1 or 2 hooks under your belt. I dont think ive ever even seen a killer do that before. So it must be pretty rare.

    The way you do it is every hook you go back to your 3 gen and check on it. Even playing trapper or hag i dont only walk in circles around 3 gens

  • Bovinity
    Bovinity Member Posts: 1,522

    "Boring" is generally code for "It made me lose" or "I didn't know what to do".

    It's actually super common in almost every game genre. Blocking in fighting games is "boring", camping in FPS games is "boring", ganking someone from a bush in MOBA's is "boring".

    It lets people complain without there being the usual opening for discussion that other terms would provide, so it's an unassailable rhetorical fortress. They can just complain and complain and no one can question it.

  • Dead_by_Gadfly
    Dead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,772
  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    I've seen it recently from newer killers. Had to play against 3-gens twice last night and while its beatable, its really unfun and uninteractive. Protecting 3 gens later on is normal. I meant the players who would always break the chase and return to their precious 3 gen. Maybe look for free hits, but then straight back to the gen. What feels like holding the game hostage, because he only prevents survivor from finishing the objective and doesn't care about his own. Until boredom kicks in, but the killer is stubborn for 30 more minutes and ready to invest the time.

  • Dead_by_Gadfly
    Dead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,772

    My point was, just because there is a 3 gen (even if the killer was trying to get one) doesnt mean the killer spent the entire match only walking around those 3 gens. Thats stupid, nobody does that.

    Now once youre in the 3 gen, yeah you chase someone off. If their dumb enough to run right around the area you chase them, if not you remove 1 or 2 pallets and go back. Thats the game, especially with trap dependant killers.

  • Bovinity
    Bovinity Member Posts: 1,522

    That's a fairly one-sided way of looking at it.

    Not only do the survivors have a hand in setting up the situation, they're also playing in the same stalemate. The killer isn't under any obligation to run off to nowhere and let survivors finish the gens any more than the survivors are obligated to let the killer hit them.

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    I dont mind random 3-gen setups appearing, because survivors didnt skip gens. No one has issues with that, since its the survivors fault.

    It all depends how early you start protecting those 3 gens. If you keep track from the start till the end, then yes, i would call that 3-genning. There's no difference in gameplay. There's a killer always denying you doing the same 3 gens and willing to break chases to protect them.

    They have a hand in setting up their gens, unless the killer protects 3 gens from the start. If it randomly ends in a 3-gen setup, its the survivors fault, since they could've skipped gens. But a killer can also patrol the 3-gen setup from the start, making sure none of them gets done. The typical Overcharge Doctor, dropping chases to kick the 3-gen over and over. Because survivors dont have a hand in that situation, its a forced 3-gen later on.

  • finitethrills
    finitethrills Member Posts: 617

    Slinger is slow, his power can't down, it only affects 1 at a time, and takes forever to reload. All crappy for 3 gens.

    Even doc, famous for it, isn't great at winning a 3 Gen. He's just really good at maintaining one.

    Killers that have a way to very quickly end a chase and move rapidly between gens are when 3 gens get truly oppressive.

  • Dead_by_Gadfly
    Dead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,772

    Yeah but I was responding to your assertion that its boring because theres no interaction between the survivors and the killers in the early game because the killer is only patrolling those three gens, im saying thats dumb and nobody does that.

    Outside of that youre just complaining that its boring because the killer is using a strategy that you werent smart enough to combat early game and screwed yourself.

    Let me make this even simpler. Killers dont care what you find fun or boring. Its a dumb argument to expect the killer to make sure you have fun in game. If you find camping/tunneling/3 genning/freddy/doc and whatever else in this game boring, go play something else. I hear Civ 6 is free on the Epic Store. Enjoy

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    You obviously didnt read. You cant combat commited 3-gen early on. Its the same gameplay with 3 gens as with 7 gens, if you ignore the other 4 gens. Which is what i call 3-genning.

    Didnt mean to step on your feet. You do yours, i just find it among the boring and lame strategies in dbd. Like stacking 4 second chances and looping infinites while teabagging and clicking flashlights. They also dont care about your fun as a killer. Do whatever you want, but dont be selfrighteous and act like people shouldn't have an opinion on it. Ebony moris, Keys, 4x second chances, tunnelcamping, 3 gens, op addons etc... all things people have a strong opinion on. IDC if you think it shouldnt be that way

  • KettleWettle
    KettleWettle Member Posts: 149

    3-genning yourself can be difficult depending on what killer you're going against and how officiant your teammates are

    Nobody likes being camped or tunneled by the killer because of course it's boring. Who tf thinks getting tunneled and camped is fun !!??

    Freddy's only boring if you make him boring

    Same for Doc he's only boring if you make him boring

    I didn't say it was only boring for survivors because it's boring for killers too. When I play killer and the other side 3-gen themselves, it's boring AF for me as the killer too because most of the time they do accidentally 3 gen themselves, they just become very immersed. So no, it's boring for both sides not just the survivors side.

    Playing the game as a efficient teammate doing gens and maybe getting ehh idk flashlight saves is fun

    Survivors maybe trying new fun builds in fun.

    A killer playing fair and in a fun way is fun.

    A killer trying new builds is fun.

  • Huff
    Huff Member Posts: 1,480

    Overrated? I don't think so. You're just kind of shooting yourself in the foot if you don't get the gens close together.

    IDK why people are even saying anything about "it's boring." That's not even what the post is about. It's about the effectiveness of it.

  • Terra92
    Terra92 Member Posts: 583

    What if she said she went against over a hundred? Over a thousand? I get some of that 70% might have had a french fry or two but ALL of them? C'mon

  • Bovinity
    Bovinity Member Posts: 1,522

    Because "boring" is code.

    It's why the word pops up so much.

  • Huff
    Huff Member Posts: 1,480

    I hope it's not code, because that means people have been interpreting what I say wrong. I've complained that certain things are boring, even if I don't think they're necessarily OP.

  • Dead_by_Gadfly
    Dead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,772

    Yeah but once again, nobody does that. Nobody walks in a circle around 3 gens starting right at the start of a match. And if they do then that should be pretty easy to counter. I explained to you earlier why that was dumb. Did you read it?

  • Dead_by_Gadfly
    Dead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,772

    You're missing my point. Anytime anyone doesnt like something in this game they call it boring. That was my point. If your last 3 gens are spread across the map even the most potato of potato teams can finish that last gen. If you dont find that fun or interesting idk what to tell you

  • LintyScorpion
    LintyScorpion Member Posts: 165

    So when the 3 gen works the killer got lucky and "must have played against potatos", but when your 3 gen fails it's that 3 genning is overrated rather than you being unlucky? You felt like you played perfectly, but the survivor's can too. Just because a plan isn't 100% full proof, doesn't mean it's overrated.

  • KettleWettle
    KettleWettle Member Posts: 149
    edited May 2020

    Okay but if 3 gens are spread across the map that wouldn't be called a 3 gen. A 3 gen is when there are 3 gens lined up right next to each other and what i'm saying is, 3 genning is boring for both sides because either the game can be very immersed, or it can just be a slugging simulator, and that's boring for both sides IMO. There are a lot of strategies both sides can do when a 3 gen does occur. For survivors, it's usually the killer trying to slug everyone. For killer, the survivors are also usually immersed.

  • KettleWettle
    KettleWettle Member Posts: 149

    And well isn't that why the word boring is used ? I mean like if you don't like something boring is a word that can be used against something you don't like right ?!

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    It happens very rarely and i would call that 3-genning. If you dont play that way, then idk why you feel offended about my statement that its boring. Because i only mean these guys whose main strategy is 3-genning. Pick 3 gens, make sure they dont get done.

    If you have other plans in the early game and maybe check for a potential 3-gen setup after a few gens and hooks are done, that is not 3-genning to me but normal gameplay.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Here's why the fool-proof strategy fails from time to time:

    If you make something idiot-proof, someone will just make a better idiot.

  • Dead_by_Gadfly
    Dead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,772

    🤦‍♂️ i give up. Later after youve had some coffee or something go back and read everything Ive said. Im not going to keep repeating myself.


    Im not offended, its just really dumb to call everything you dont like boring which is what I see a lot of

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080
    edited May 2020

    You're not believing me that people actually play this way. Whatever...

    To elaborate...again.... it may be a dumb strat to 3-gen early. It may be counterable. It may not be optimal. But i mean exactly that. That is a 3-gen. And if you're not doing that, i wouldn't consider you playstyle 3-genning and thus you are not boring.

    ??