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Why can killers see our names in the lobbies?

Brhoom
Brhoom Member Posts: 241

This is not a discussion about seeing what items survivor bring, this is about usernames only.

I'm trying to figure out the reasoning behind making killers see our names in lobbies. Looped a killer and escaped? Next time I'm gonna get tunneled or morried, and the excuse of reporting killers that target a certain survivor doesn't work since I can't report him for morrying or tunneling me now unless I bait him tinto saying in chat that he only wanted me.

Another situation is playing against the same killer multiple times that he recognizes what perks I run, If I don't have ds he knows and I will get tunneled to death, knows I have unbreakable so I don't get slugged. (Middle East DBD is a small community, I can play against the same killer multiple times in a day)

Are there any other reasons why killers can see survivor's names?

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  • NinjaDette1
    NinjaDette1 Member Posts: 1,289

    It’s our privilege to see our victims 😀 joking I play on both sides equally. I know some people say it’s not fair that killers can see survivors names and survivors can’t see killers until after the game ends but honestly If survivors saw killers and their names it would lead to people dodging lobbies especially if it’s someone they played against previously who was toxic on either Side.

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    Oh I'm not asking for survivors to see killers' names in lobbies, I want to know what is the reason behind making killers see survivors' names since it only brought me toxicity.

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    So you agree that killers shouldn't see our names just like survivors can't so games don't turn toxic.

  • DelsKibara
    DelsKibara Member Posts: 3,127

    Side question: But is it really such an issue that you meet up with the same Survivors over and over again as Killer? Because I personally have only ever met the same player once in recent weeks, I haven't been able to meet up with the same Survivors back to back. At least here in the WA Region.

    Sure, some people have a "List", but they aren't really a majority. Most of your games you will still find Killers who don't know you, and probably won't remember you even if you two meet each other again.

    Personally, I would prefer to go with Survivors being able to see the Killer's username since at least if you suspect someone has a "Hit" on you, you can dodge and matchmaking will fill up that lobby shortly after you leave.

    I personally prefer to know who I am up against, sure I haven't been able to use that knowledge in recent weeks, but it usually leads to some funny conversations like this:

    (For context, I saw a Survivor with the same username as the one I found a couple matches ago, so I decided to play with the exact same build I faced against them just for fun. It then lead to this weirdly wholesome exchange.)

    (Yes I used Mother-Daughter Ring and Yakuyoke Amulet, I wanted to also guarantee I get kills that game.)

    (And Yes, I will keep my promise if I see their name again.)

  • MamaEagle
    MamaEagle Member Posts: 115

    This may be way off topic, but how do you have all the icons "cartoon-ized?" Is that some kind of modification? I watch many streamers and what not (N00b3 and Monto mostly) and yet I see sometimes they have these animated icons (N00b3 more than anyone) I figured if it's some kind of mod that I myself could get in trouble for using it.

  • MamaEagle
    MamaEagle Member Posts: 115

    And that's not what I was saying, look... Toxicity will be in video games for as long as PvP is a thing. I understand what your saying, but you also have to remember that in order to be a decent survivor the first step is communication. No killer is going to be like, "Oh hey, Hillbilly... Nurse here, just found out there are two in the main building of the map." I understand your notion on toxicity but really the names don't matter... All it does is show the killer who and what they are up against, same would be said for survivors and they would remember certain killers. What if your a Billy main people REALLY don't like and want to practice Nurse one day? Next thing you know you come across a group of 4 who have you on their list? It'd be painful to deal with

  • TheOneTrueTristan
    TheOneTrueTristan Member Posts: 85

    Some people use the survivors' names to distinguish which one is the obsession when the game starts and they are running a build where the obsession is integral.

    Other that pretty niche thing, no clue.

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    How does knowing my name help the killer in knowing what he is up against? And if it doesn't matter why not remove them then?

  • DelsKibara
    DelsKibara Member Posts: 3,127

    Look up tutorials on how to add custom icon packs to DBD.

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    There are claws around the obsession. I see the claws if I'm running pwyf, I don't look at their names.

  • LALYTHIA
    LALYTHIA Member Posts: 1,656

    Just like good survivors will get tunnel mori'd and good survivor streamers will get trolling games?

    Your argument can be that anyone seeing names is unfair and NO ONE should see them. But any argument where it's ok for Killer's but not for Survivor's is just invalid. There's no reason that I've ever heard that doesn't go both ways.

  • TheOneTrueTristan
    TheOneTrueTristan Member Posts: 85

    Yeah but if you pay attention during the lobby to the names of the survivors and how they look and who they're playing and then check who is the obsession in the pause menu, you know who to go for.

    Not saying it's optimal, just saying I've seen people doing it.

  • MamaEagle
    MamaEagle Member Posts: 115

    See if it doesn't matter then why support the arguement that they need removed?

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398
    edited May 2020

    I'd much rather see actual usernames than simply "Claudette" or "Dwight". I'd rather see a username someone made up to associate with themselves than no name at all. If they made a change to hide people's usernames I would never play killer again. It would feel so soulless and empty, it's hard to describe but some of you might know what I mean.


    Edit: just to clarify I've never seen the same person's username twice and thought "oh, they beat me last round time to bring iri head Huntress with a Mori just for him." I've never understood why people do that. It's just petty imo. And I can definitely put up with a little bit of petty revenge from killers, that almost never happens btw, to make the killer experience less dehumanising.

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    I said in the thread that I disagree with survivors being able to see the killer's name/


    It was you who said that it's doesn't matter in the first place...

  • Snowstruck
    Snowstruck Member Posts: 564

    So killers can lobby dodge and survivors can't, is what you're saying?

    Sorry, it came off that way.

    It would lead to more lobby dodging, yes, but so does killers seeing our names in lobbies.

  • LALYTHIA
    LALYTHIA Member Posts: 1,656

    Yes, I read that.

    What you should mean is you disagree with either side being able to see the opposing person(s) name. Otherwise it is a complete double standard.

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    I'm asking to know why killers should see our names, and so far no good reason was given.

    I believe no one should be able to see names till the end chat.

  • MamaEagle
    MamaEagle Member Posts: 115

    I mean, all in all it really doesn't matter. Names or not the killer can still see what characters they are up against and what items they are bringing. I just don't see a point to this is all. It's not really game breaking, very few people really complain about it in comparison to all other issues on these threads. It's just a thing the devs did that we have all grown to accept and continue on our lives with.

  • seki23
    seki23 Member Posts: 833
    edited May 2020

    i kind of agree that killers shouldnt be able to see survivor names but is okay if they can see the items they are bringing to the game after all you as killer should be able to prepare for what you are going agaisnt... is a 4 v 1 in an asimetrical unbalanced game towards survivors, give the klillers at least the chance to prepare if u are gonna bring 3 flashlights or 4 flashlights or 4 medkits so he can decides if bring good addons or not or an strong killer or not.


    also if u are on pc there is nothing u can do because you can check steam profiles anyway and if i see the same picture, or if i see taht you changed your name because i am suspecting u are a certain person it doesnt matter if i cant see your name in looby i can just check your steam profile. usually i dont have that problem because i win almost every match by avoiding loobys with keys and that unfair stuff so is not a problem for me, if i notice ttoxicity i will jsut play as the biggest scumbag on earth and youll lose or at least more than half of the team will die, for sure. and if u were toxic i will proably remember your names, but 90% of the tiem im a chill man id rather DODGEEEEE try hards lobis cause i hate using moris, unless u were a piece of..... then i will make one exception so u may learn to stop being toxic.



    but i do agree, killers shouldnt know survivor names is not necessary to prepare for the game unless u want to make sure that one survivor is not gonna enjoy the game or the entire team, even if i think they should get some of their own aswell sometimes.

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    I've stated in my OP how names can and have ruined games for survivors with toxic killers.


    Please don't try to dismiss a criticism without actually giving a valid excuse other than "it doesn't matter"

  • MamaEagle
    MamaEagle Member Posts: 115

    But how again is it a criticism?? It's just a function that has been here since release of the game and your just now complaining about it as if it broke your game lol. I'm not dismissing your point as much as I'm just asking why it matters? So what if someone recognizes you and brings a little more to play with? What if they lobby dodge you? A part of becoming better at a game is to play against people who are better than you and learning from it. If it's someone who recognizes you and wants to give you a run for your money you should be all too happy to play against them and learn ways to try and outplay them. I don't understand how this is such a big deal to you lol. I'd be far more concerned with other bugs and issues that need fixed than if a person can see your name in the lobby

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    I'm pretty sure the developers can hide the ability to check survivor's Steam profiles while in lobbies.

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    Being in the game since release isn't a valid excuse for why it shouldn't be removed.

    "brings a little mroe to play with" is a nice way of saying morri and tunnel. And your argument about the killer preparing for me doesn't work since for me to know how to outplay him I too need to know his name before the match so I can change my perks accordingly but that's just unfair.


    I repeat, I' not asking to see killer's name since I play mostly Meyers and if survivors knew me I would be countered hard.

  • myersismydaddy
    myersismydaddy Member Posts: 232

    Either remove the survivor names/add the killer's name/remove the ability to view steam profile in lobby.

    This is also one of the things that we have been asking the devs for years, and I have yet to see them respond to it.

  • MamaEagle
    MamaEagle Member Posts: 115

    Again though, your point just doesn't have enough cause behind it. What more would this accomplish for either side? Sure it would reduce the amount of "hits" that killers would do or "lobby dodges" but a killer can choose to do that at any given time regardless who the survivors are. That's like getting mad at a game like Call of Duty for having a scoreboard screen before the match starts or getting mad at For Honor for showing your enemies and teammates names while on the loading screen... It's just not that major of an issue to require change lol, maybe if people started holding grudges more and harassed each other then I could see viable reason for change. However that's not even close to the case. I understand your upset by it and want to know why it's so "one sided" as you act it to be. However it really doesn't change all that much unless you have met the person before (in which case can't you just block them and then never have to see them again or does steam not work that way?)

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    If it would help reduce toxicity even by a little bit why not do it?

    If it doesn't matter for killers at all just like you said but some survivors are getting targeted because of it why not remove it, how would that hurt DBD in any way?

    So far no good argument was posted here to why names should be visible.

  • MamaEagle
    MamaEagle Member Posts: 115

    And no good arguement was posted to prove it lol, I understand again what your saying. But there is plenty more important work at hand that is needed long before anything like this is "brought to light"

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241


    It's just name removing, I'm not asking for the moon here.

    I gave my reasons, you failed to disprove them or offer a valid reason why killers should see survivors' names so you say no good argument was given...


    Unless you have a solid reason for why killers should be able to see names and profiles before the match don't try to shut down the discussion by saying it doesn't matter (which in a way is agreeing with me that it should be removed)

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,270
    edited May 2020

    Gameplay-wise there is no reason to show names or profiles, it can easily be removed.

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557

    Devs addressed this like years ago, no amount of foot stomping is going to change it. Killers need to see what they are going up against, survivors can prepare for battle as they feel fit, but killer needs to see what they are holding etc,... 4 flashlights may need to bring "Lightborn" etc, anyone who fails to see why, its becaue they are a survivor main and dont play both sides.

    Those of us who play both sides can easily see why.

  • xXNurseXx
    xXNurseXx Member Posts: 261

    It´s an outdated mechanic. People who are trying to defend this mechanic are entilted killer mains who dont want to lose the option to cherry pick their enemys.

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241
  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    So are there any mods or devs here that can give us and idea to why this is good/bad?

    I'm repeating myself for the third time here, this is about usernames not items.

  • hagling
    hagling Member Posts: 279

    everyone should see the other team's usernames or nobody should, killers can dodge toxic survivors but survivors don't have that luxury.

    I went against a clown and right afterward ended up with him again. upset that me and my friend escaped, he facecamped him to death with bubba.

    simply knowing his name would've prevented that boring game. he still lost, when I swf I don't recklessly save. I helped finish the remaining gens and the rest of us escaped, my friend on the other hand had a dull quick game just because a repeat killer got pissy.

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 5,508

    But if they hide names I can't name myself "Mori me daddy Myers" and have the killer play Myers.

  • DontComeNeaMe
    DontComeNeaMe Member Posts: 72

    Honestly there is no other reason for it than so people can dodge the players they don't like going up against.

    I don't mind it because most of the players who hold grudges are normally doing this because they got beat. It's nice to have a challenge.

  • BlueFirebilly
    BlueFirebilly Member Posts: 257

    I don’t really care but people say they could dodge killers and then they would whine about even more abysmal queue times and that’s the last thing I want, more whining and complaining

  • Xzan
    Xzan Member Posts: 907

    Simple, as long as there is no "Avoid-Player-Option" I put toxic people on my ignorelist. If one of them is in the lobby I'll dodge or bring a mori. I'll usually dodge, because those people are not worth my time.

    I'm talking about those toxic survivors, that will do everything ingame to get under your skin or insult you during endgamechat or who will wish you cancer, not the ones who are good at flashlightsaves or looping.

  • NekoGamerX
    NekoGamerX Member Posts: 5,290

    they talking about see the survivor username not the items they carrying.

  • Tiersis
    Tiersis Member Posts: 259

    We need to see the names.

    If I couldn't see the names I couldn't dodge the people I've added to my list.

  • DWolfAlpha
    DWolfAlpha Member Posts: 927

    It would be impossible to report someone for cheating or hacking without their username.

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    But this logic is unfair because why can't survivors see the killer's name to avoid the toxic ones too?


    I'm not asking for survivors to see killers' names, I think killers seeing our names is not beneficial to the outcome of the game other than to target certain players

  • Tiersis
    Tiersis Member Posts: 259

    I'd have no problem with that. I actually think there should be an ignore list that we can add folk to so we don't have to play against them.

  • Vox_Nocturne
    Vox_Nocturne Member Posts: 545

    I've no problem with survivor names not being shown. If a trade off is possible, remove survivor player names and just make the key more obvious to see.