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Will 1st person POV moris ever come back?
Every update I'm hoping they change back to original, but it never does. I think it started with Hag or Freddy if I remember, and I understood why at the time since Hags is pretty extreme, and you don't really see where Freddy is in his (Even though, I think that'd make for a creative mori). But I don't think there's much of an excuse anymore. Really hoping some devs read this so we can shine some light on this for the big graphical overhaul!
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Hopefully. I mean it doesn't make sense to have it third-person for killer.
Would be good to be able to switch throughout the mori.
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I assume it's something to do with the models and camera. While I agree it would be cooler the cinematic camera is probably better in the long run.
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Well if they could do it with the rusty resources when this game first came out for all the killers from trapper - bubba, I don't see why it's not possible anymore now that they have more money and resources than ever before. But sure, it'd require more effort. I still don't see why 3rd person would be better in the long run, besides for moris like spirits or something.
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Third Person Moris for Killers leave more freedom when designing a Mori. Sure, something like Nurse works better in first person, but a Mori like Legion or Demogorgon would look really strange in first person and not cool at all.
So instead of wonky camera angles, Killers also get to see the actual animation.
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It really depends on the mori. Some don't work in first person others actually look kinda cool like Doc, Myers or Nurse e.g. On the other hand Killers get rarely to see their own cosmetics during gameplay and the third person mori allows it.
And as far as I remember the Clown was the last Killer with a first person Mori. Yeah, Hag and Freddy are third person. And like I said, I think it's because those don't work well in first person. With the killers from Spirit and following it's mostly similar. The only exception might be Oni, whose Mori would work quite well in First Person. And maybe even Ghostface.
But yeah, would love to see some new first person Moris as well.
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Feel like youd likely miss alot with a 1st person view. Deathslinger's for example would haave you staring at a survivor's back.
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These are probably the best explanations for it. It would be great to have other animations that are in first person, but not every mori works with First Person. I mean, look at PH, you wouldn't see anything through first person because of his headgear! XD
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That made me chuckle
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Jokes aside, I have no idea how the player can see through that. It makes no sense to me... and I try to make a point to understand everything about the game, from mechanics, to lore, to how they correspond with each other... : P
One could say it is driving me mad...
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Let them first return the player's camera to the killer's head and bring back all those old cool 1st person animations for the killer. Now all the animations are such fierce garbage that I just have no words, so much the game has undergone downgrading in terms of animations.
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This is actually quite simple to do. It’s just that you need to spend some time on it and then even for PH you can make Mori animation from 1st person
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Good point to be made. But I think the newer animations not being fitting for first person, is because they've disregarded first person as a factor when making them now in the first place, because its not expected anymore. So it comes full circle. I still think first person would be fun for almost all moris. It's always going to be more cinematic for the survivors anyway, what makes the pov interesting, is seeing the same kill but through different perspectives. One as the victim, and one as the killer. Even deathslingers mentioned, I think would be really cool to see in first person. Lifting someone upwards spearing them, and shooting through their head, only to kick them after. It's no different from "staring at the back" of a survivor in bubba/trapper/wraith/billys moris. Some of them I think are perfect for first person, like Ghost Face or Plague, but still weren't.
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That was a joke. : /
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Mori's are about cinematics. Third person is the right move, here.
Honestly, I would rather them all be third person.
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I agree. I don't think the animations are horrible, yet there's just something missing. I feel now that you have the freedom of the only perspective being third person, it almost makes the result more laxed/messy. Something like Nurse and Doctors moris, with details like turning a survivors back to see their charred face, or caressing their face after choking them shows a kind of craftsmanship/love. They designed it to show character, and specifically crafted it to be equally amazing for both the eyes of the killer, and survivor. Now it just has to look cool for survivor because the killers view isn't relevant anymore.
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The community has been pretty vocal on changing those early moris though into something better. We REALLY dont want to be emulating them. You can find LOTS of posts reccomending changes to Trappers mori sticking your head in a beartrap and similar posts regarding the rest. The idea of stabbing a survivor in the back...the same thing ive been doing all game, hearing BANG and then kicking them just sounds dull. All the action is happening in the front with that spear coming out of the survivor's mouth, which would be a detail I wouldn't get to see.
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My point wasn't that Trapper and Wraiths animations were interesting because of the animation itself. The first person view is the redeeming factor. I agree, I wouldn't be opposed to changing their animations. I still don't think that means it has to be third person though. Imagine looking through the eyes of Trapper, and stepping on a survivors head into a bear trap, almost like Billys. Although I just can't agree on the Deathslinger part. Nothing else to bring up besides opinion I guess. It's just like what I said earlier, there's always going to be more action going on in the front (from the survivors pov) rather than the back (the killers view). Don't think that should make first person irrelevant. And if it were more relevant, the animations would have a bit more effort to make it engaging in first person.
If something like Legions mori were first person, it wouldn't have to bob crazy one-to-one like Legion does in DBD and give you a headache. I'd love to see something like that from Legions POV, because it's no longer an animation of the survivor struggling to fend of Legion. It's an animation of the survivor struggling to fend of YOU.
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I'm not really too worried about anything being too "bob crazy" but rather missing alot of details because of first person. Spirit's mori for example...sure, youd see her slashing a survivor and looking VERY much like Wraith or Trapper's mori, but you'd completely lose the ferocity of it because youd be unable to see anything besides her hands and weapon. You wouldnt see her facial expressions or poses.
With this they made sure to add details like her phasing around while slashing, the sword closeup and her pose and roar after the act was done because they knew people would be able to actually see that. It became much more cinematic. If we were stuck with a first person view however...how would it be any different than THIS?
All we'd get to see is the slashing left and right.
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I prefer first person moris over third person moris all day. Some moris require to be first person to be really satisfying and interesting, like Nurse, or Pig. The arguments that you would "mostly stare at their back" makes no sense to me, considering there are very good moris in FP, where you mostly stare at the survivors back like Bubba, Doctor, or Clown. It adds to the immersion, and make you really feel like a killer. Whereas third person makes it more appear like a lowbudged slasher movie, and your camera zooming in and out of your body isn't pretty at all either.
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