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Why do some people take personal offense to getting hit while dying on the hook?
Personally, I see hooked survivors as noisy blood pinatas. If I have maxed out STBFL or am playing a killer that can multi-hit I'll occasionally smack a hooked survivor for the sheer fun of it.
But some people really don't like that, even though it gives their team mates extra time, and they somehow think that me hitting them means I'm angry or something.
I think it's just weapons-grade projection at work. But I could be wrong.
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It just seems like poor sportsmanship. You already hooked them, why do you need to keep hitting them? Showboating? It's the same with t-bagging and pointing at the Killer after stunning them with a pallet.
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Because it's usually meant as an insult. Like incessant nodding, teabagging, etc.
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Smacking a survivor on hook is just rude and I honestly think you are intelligent enough to understand that yourself.
Survivors typically wait for minutes to get into a lobby and they expect to have a fun match just like you so imagine being the first one to get caught and the killer happens to be a bad sport who thinks other players are just pinatas.
Being someone's pinata is not exactly the most fun way to spend your spare time and not particularly satisfying when you had to wait for that experience for minutes.
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I've always been told it's bad manners to smack people on the hook, but from a survivors perspective, it is kinda annoying when you keep hearing smacks and your character screaming while struggling on hook
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I can understand getting annoyed if I've waited a while to get into a game, only to then be downed and hooked a minute in. But I'm failing to understand the mindset of expecting a fun game.
If I misplay and get hooked, It's not fun, but nor should it be. I've objectively made a mistake and I'm punished for it. However there are loads of factors to making a mistake in dbd, your team mates, the map, killer, etc. And a lot of those factors are outside of your control. But there is still a degree of control to your actions, including limiting your expectations when entering a match. I don't see how the act of making a mistake and getting hooked is not worse than getting hit on a hook after making a mistake.
For me, I expect every game to go as badly as possible, that RNG and match making will screw me over at every turn and there's nothing I can do about it. It makes it so that when I successfully punish a survivor or avoid making a mistake it's very satisfying. And so I sometimes capitalize on this brief period of "everything not going wrong" by hitting the person on the hook because I think I can afford it, but mainly because I think it's fun.
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Why do some people get annoyed when I flip them off or tell them to go ######### themselves?
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Okay. Can you explain to me how hitting someone on the hook is identical to flipping someone off?
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Because it's insulting. You are trying to rub in the fact that you hooked them so much that you are throwing the game just to lord over them that you finally caught and hooked them.
Or another way to look at it: please explain to me how erecting my longest finger is in any way insulting to you. I'm just stretching it, there's nothing wrong with that. What do you mean, there's context and intent behind the act that makes it insulting? I was just stretching it, I swear.
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Babies. Hitting hooked survivors mid-game is kind of a dick move, since you generally shouldn't facecamp. Unless it's just 1 little slap for fun/vent, then back on the road. But to me personally, if you're the last survivor struggling on hook, then killers smacking you is kinda like a taunt in any other game. Like a fatality from MK, or taunting for the killcam in TF2. Which is something anyone could laugh at for a second and move on, but not for DBD. Survivors need to get all of those struggle points I guess, so your wacking taunt lasts a lot more than a second, and happens to come off as rude. Yeah I dunno man.
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But the act of flipping up your middle finger has years of history behind it, used in multiple cultures as a sign of disrespect.
Dbd has been out less than 4 years and is a hot mess of balance issues. I don't see how the act of making a mistake and being punished for it, (which cannot even be in your control someones) is not worse than the killer hitting you on the hook, which as I've already said, only helps your team by giving them extra time.
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This has been the most comprehensible reason to me so far.
Cheers!
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I'm just trying to smack that mosquito for you.
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In the context of the game, when the killer repeatedly hits the survivor, it suggests that the survivor did something to piss that killer off. That's what it is often/usually used to mean, so that's become its permanent meaning. If survivors aren't acting like dicks in the match but end up with a killer hitting them on the hook, they can be either 1. confused about what they did wrong, or 2. generally upset. Knowing that and doing it anyway and then being like "Why are survivors unhappy about me hitting them?" is a disingenuous question.
Multiple times I've been the last person left and I surrender to the killer so that we can both move on to the next match. I accept my loss, they won, it's fine. But then they hit me on the hook repeatedly. Like, I don't get it, what did I do to piss them off? It makes me rethink trying to be a good sport at the end of a match.
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May I ask if you find teabagging or pointing after a pallet stun to be toxic/rude or something?
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That's actually something else I've been wondering about. Why people care at all about survivors teabagging.
The concept is the humiliation of an already defeated opponent by rubbing your balls over their corpse, because you had managed to kill them. But I really don't the action makes any sense to use in dbd.
You can't ever kill a killer, so you can't fulfill the one requirement of tea bagging in the first place, that being shaming your enemy's corpse. People just teabag on the spot as if that's somehow an insult and not missing the entire point of the action.
The most I can understand is survivors teabagging at the exit gates. But even then it's usually a save distance away from the killer so the survivors cannot be punished for taunting them.
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Because it's BM. Nobody likes BM.
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People were very upset with me when i used a person as a bloody piniata so i don't do it anymore.
And that behavior slipped into my gameplay i guess
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In gaming, there's always the sore winner and the sore loser. We see the sore loser often in DBD, they insult the winner and / or complains about their defeat (this often leads to the blaming game). The sore winner often brags about their superiority and / or shames the loser. However, this can all happen within a game and every game has their own form of getting their points across. In Overwatch, people can message the other team or a targeted user. Dead by Daylight has it's own method, as well as other games that don't have direct in-game communication. Gaming has accepted tbagging or any other action that requires the player to purposely waste unnecessary time, as a form of communication.
When you hook someone (you beat them) then hook smack them, to the survivor, you're being a sore winner. You're purposely wasting unnecessary amounts of time to hook smack a survivor after beating them, which makes that survivor believe you're boasting over your superiority.
Of course, language is very complex and I just gave you the bare minimum to understand. However, whenever you do something, it's always best to picture what the receiving end is seeing before you do it. 😅🙂
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Teabagging is just a term being used in DbD because it is similar in a sense but not the same concept as in other videotapes. Some call it buttdancing and there are probably many other names for it. The name doesn’t change the action though. It is an unnecessary action that may even steal some of your own time just so the opponent can see it and gets angry/salty/taunted or something.
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😂😂😂
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I've already said my thoughts on tea bagging in this post. As for pointing, it's... pointing. It's honestly difficult for me to determine what someone means when they point unless it's really obvious like; "Repair this gen", or "Heal me".
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Something doesn't need to have centuries behind it to be insulting. It's the intent of why you are doing it that rubs people the wrong way not the literal action itself. It doesn't matter if it's flipping someone off, teabagging, hitting the hook or even nodding all you need is a method to get your ill will across. If for example enough killers started to do a spin after a down with enough time that would become offensive because it's not the action people are looking at it's the intent.
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so you pretty much don’t understand „hitting someone on the hook“, „buttdancing after pallet stun/at exit gates“ or „pointing at killer after a pallet stun“...
honestly... how can you not understand that many people do this as insults? It’s really not hard to grasp. You cannot show the middlefinger in this game so people use what they have got on their hands, and those actions are all totally unnecessary in those situations and non of these are fun to do or do anything other than taunt the opponent.
How can you not see this as a personal offense? It only affects that person and is taking away some of your time.
there are of course no rules against it and you can keep doing it, but acting surprised that someone doesn’t like it is pretty much only making it more rude..
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I absolutely do not see these as personal offensives because there's nothing personal about them.
Killers get stunned by pallets all the time, survivors "butt dance" all the time. You can argue all you want about intended offence. But it's absurd to think that any of this is personal. If it's just a collection of actions that are meant to insult people then there can be nothing about them directed towards a single person.
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I would argue doing something that is meant to insult people and direct it to one person specifically is indeed something personal.
Also, you said you know people take it personal but you still do it anyway and just ignore their opinion because you see it another way.. maybe it’s not a personal offense but it’s still bad manners. You can’t change the perception of the majority of the community only because you see it not that way.
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I only hit a survivor on the hook one time when I play clown. His hit animation and sounds is Just amazing and funny😁
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Plenty of survivors have had the experience of looping a killer for a long time, going down, and then being facecamped and smacked over and over because the killer is angry or thinks the survivor is “toxic”. So in this community, the action of hitting a survivor on hook is usually interpreted as a salty killer venting frustration or ridiculing their opponent.
Out of context it means nothing, and I wouldn’t recommend anyone take it too seriously, but that’s why people find it rude. Just like crouching and pointing your finger into Pig’s nose is “booping the snoot” and a sign of submission, it’s a form of communication that developed because this game has no way to actually communicate.
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