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New rework idea for Decisive Strike

You know when a survivor has DS but isn't the obsession? they need the 40% (tier 3) wiggle to get a chance at it? what if we turned it to 50% wiggle for any DS user? (obsession included) I think this is far more reasonable and also makes boil over just a little bit more useful in this instance. Thoughts?

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  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    most wouldn't even get it because more then likely you'll go to the nearest hook
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    edited September 2018
    Vankruze said:

    You know when a survivor has DS but isn't the obsession? they need the 40% (tier 3) wiggle to get a chance at it? what if we turned it to 50% wiggle for any DS user? (obsession included) I think this is far more reasonable and also makes boil over just a little bit more useful in this instance. Thoughts?

    DS is a grey area for balancing. Killers just don't like FREE get out of jail free cards. So to fix DS, this perk should have a condition. Here's my idea of reworking DS! :)

    Decisive Strike:
    Once per trial, when you have wiggled a total of 175/150/125% for the trial, succeed a skill check to fill the rest of the wiggle meter and receive a 60 second bleed timer. Increases your chances of becoming the killer's obsession.
  • CoolAKn
    CoolAKn Member Posts: 677
    edited September 2018

    Regardless of any changes, survivor obsession perks should make the obsession have the primary benefit of the perk. Non-obsessions should have a lesser benefit from the perk.

    Only other real change I would think of is survivor obsession perks will not trigger the obsession mechanic if the killer does not have an obsession perk.

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    For now it woud make sense kinda sense to also give Broken Status Effect when you used DS.

    @Vankruze said:
    You know when a survivor has DS but isn't the obsession? they need the 40% (tier 3) wiggle to get a chance at it? what if we turned it to 50% wiggle for any DS user? (obsession included) I think this is far more reasonable and also makes boil over just a little bit more useful in this instance. Thoughts?

    And no it wouldn't make Boil Over more useful

  • scerckan
    scerckan Member Posts: 149
    how about if we nerf ds when killers can't grab you when they're camping next to the hatch. sounds fair?
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388
    Ds for the obsession only. Period end of story. Days of 4 ds in a match could be done. Based on all the killer obsession perks including the new rancor perk this would make sense. 
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  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @fcc2014 said:
    Ds for the obsession only. Period end of story. Days of 4 ds in a match could be done. Based on all the killer obsession perks including the new rancor perk this would make sense. 

    How would you prevent 2 or more people equipping the perk??

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @fcc2014 said:
    Ds for the obsession only. Period end of story. Days of 4 ds in a match could be done. Based on all the killer obsession perks including the new rancor perk this would make sense. 

    I agree with this. DS itself is not that powerful. It becomes really powerful when you don't know if one of the survivors has it.

  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437
    I've had it a few times tricky but fun when used badly
  • starkiller1286
    starkiller1286 Member Posts: 890
    scerckan said:
    how about if we nerf ds when killers can't grab you when they're camping next to the hatch. sounds fair?
    You do realize you can do gene while the killer is standing there also if you bait the killer into hitting you it's a guaranteed escape since they are stuck in the weapon cleaning animation.
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388
    Zanfer said:

    @fcc2014 said:
    Ds for the obsession only. Period end of story. Days of 4 ds in a match could be done. Based on all the killer obsession perks including the new rancor perk this would make sense. 

    How would you prevent 2 or more people equipping the perk??

    Dead perk... Perk isn't active only for the person chosen as the obsession. If you use it you roll the dice.
  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    @Vankruze said:

    @Milo said:
    For now it woud make sense kinda sense to also give Broken Status Effect when you used DS.

    @Vankruze said:
    You know when a survivor has DS but isn't the obsession? they need the 40% (tier 3) wiggle to get a chance at it? what if we turned it to 50% wiggle for any DS user? (obsession included) I think this is far more reasonable and also makes boil over just a little bit more useful in this instance. Thoughts?

    And no it wouldn't make Boil Over more useful

    Uhh with MY idea yes it would :)

    How exactly?

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  • scerckan
    scerckan Member Posts: 149
    edited September 2018
    scerckan said:9
    how about if we nerf ds when killers can't grab you when they're camping next to the hatch. sounds fair?
    You do realize you can do gene while the killer is standing there also if you bait the killer into hitting you it's a guaranteed escape since they are stuck in the weapon cleaning animation.
    most killers I've played with just root themselves like a fckin plant next to the hatch and they won't attack you cause they know it's a free ticket for you to escape while they're stuck in the animation.  And i bet most of those type of people are the ones who ask for a ds nerf so passionately so fck them if they're going to be camping douches I'll stick to my ds
  • Jonathanskilz
    Jonathanskilz Member Posts: 403

    How to fix decisive strike

    Make it so only 1 survivor can use it etch match tbh

  • arcticxlia
    arcticxlia Member Posts: 53
    I thought it gets already nerfed!?
  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    @Vankruze said:

    @Milo said:

    @Vankruze said:

    @Milo said:
    For now it woud make sense kinda sense to also give Broken Status Effect when you used DS.

    @Vankruze said:
    You know when a survivor has DS but isn't the obsession? they need the 40% (tier 3) wiggle to get a chance at it? what if we turned it to 50% wiggle for any DS user? (obsession included) I think this is far more reasonable and also makes boil over just a little bit more useful in this instance. Thoughts?

    And no it wouldn't make Boil Over more useful

    Uhh with MY idea yes it would :)

    How exactly?

    I thought it goes without saying (apparently not) you have a slightly better chance at reaching the 40% wiggle mark whilst running boil over 3 in turn creating a better chance at triggering the DS. Based on my idea everybody running DS would need to make 50% wiggle to trigger it so in this instance if you're running boil over 3 you're giving yourself a slightly better chance to reach the mark.

    Boil Over has it full potential on like 2 maps.
    Other than that it's pretty much useless.