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Please BHVR, open a dedicated server in Moscow or Volgograd.

I live in Germany, Lower Saxony to be a little more specific, I don't know about the other states but it seems like the other parts of former West Germany don't seem to have those kind of problems that often, the so called problem is: Soviets! Why am I saying it that way? Because: NOT every russian person is the same, not every russian person is being a toxic dick in this game, I have met a lot of nice ones who speak English, but still, I can't stand it if I live in EU West and the majority just speaks russian, I expect people to speak English because we're EU, not Russia, and maybe there can be some french people that have trouble with speaking English but that should be it. But it isn't taken for granted that everyone speaks russian. Those people, that think everyone speaks russian and they expect the same coming back from everyone, they still live in the Soviet era, where they're literally stuck. But hey, maybe they cannot help it, maybe their parents taught them that Stalin was a great man and the former USSR is the only superpower in the world, so that the language should be the only one that is being spoken in this world, but what it is to this game is, BHVR CAN help, when it comes to solving this issue. What we need is a petition or something, so that these things get sorted out, and solved, there needs to be a server in Russia for EU East, the one in Frankfurt should be EU west, just like the other one in London? Or Dublin, I am not sure about that. The major problem is not even the soviet arrogance to not speak English, it's whenever I play against a Killer that lives in Russia, I get hit more often, whether it's through pallets, windows and especially huntress' hatchets. And THAT is because those from Russia, are playing on Frankfurt server. It is basically the same as with using a VPN, for example if there is Killers from China playing on US West servers, it is a problem, might be even worse, but I notice the difference when I play against people from actual EU (UK,Spain,France,Germany) it is pretty much fine and I can just tell my own mistakes, but when I play against a Killer from the former USSR, that's where latency strikes again. This needs to be solved, I don't wanna start VPNing to the UK server, because I don't like using a VPN in games in general.

Comments

  • Theetis
    Theetis Member Posts: 153

    This got way too deep than it should be, but yeah, it kinda annoys me too when I just see a bunch of russian stuff in the chat.

    Maybe it's just me, but most russians that I get on my team or go against are utter pepegas, too.

  • kaeru
    kaeru Member Posts: 1,568

    Sad to hear that Russians often show bad attitude but I guess it's fair from your perspective.

    Adding a server in Russia would be a huge performance buff to the game! But I guess it's complicated by poliical issues. Russian government very unlikely let Western countries to build some strange web servers on their territory that could be potentially used in military purpose. Same thing from Western countries. They would not build anything on Russian territory because their politics often known as Agressive and Homophobic.

    I don't know for sure but i guess this is a problem.

  • Todgeweiht
    Todgeweiht Member Posts: 3,666

    Bruh I was expecting a petition to add servers to Russia because it is going to have a good impact in the performance on the game for eastern slavs, not a rant about how the russians are still stuck in the soviet era and refuse to speak english

  • dastru
    dastru Member Posts: 165

    no thank you I'd rather you germans to be stuck with russians because almost every single german player I've to deal with has the most atrocious McDonalds connection

  • DwightOP
    DwightOP Member Posts: 2,328

    I'm from Germany, same issue. 50% of my chats are in Russian letters. I mean okay bhvr, am I the only German guy playing DbD? It's ridiculous. And I'm not even talking about the insane pings against Russian killers.

  • DwightOP
    DwightOP Member Posts: 2,328

    Also, we should get a server browser imo. We should be able to pick a server as long as it's Below a certain ping. Probably below 100 ping seems fine.

  • myersismydaddy
    myersismydaddy Member Posts: 232

    The issue that I have with Russian players is not so much toxicity or all-russian chat. The issue that I have is that because the EU server is quite far away from them they usually have medium to high pings. This is not fair for EU players.

    The devs said that they are not considering adding a Russian server, so they don't really care.

  • Kycer
    Kycer Member Posts: 337

    We need dedicated servers for Saudi Arabia too

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,800

    oh yeah please add servers to Russia!

    I don’t really care if the players speak/write in a foreign language, that’s not such a huge problem. but the higher ping and unfair hits are a huge problem! Maybe this will get solved once server sided hit detection is being used, but I guess that would not solve he issue for the Russian players but will make it worse for them.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675
    edited June 2020

    I think the political issues will be the biggest impediment. Russia's government is very censor-happy and BHVR is supportive of things they don't like. I doubt you'd be able to get a server there without them demanding that the game be censored.

  • Todgeweiht
    Todgeweiht Member Posts: 3,666

    How so? There is not a single openly gay character in the game, or a character that supports the Ukranian governments ownership of Crimea. No reason for the game to get banned there.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    And if the devs want to add a killer based on a Russian mass-murderer or an openly LGBT character, what then?

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    I know, and I also know how some people reacted to that. It's too bad I have to share the game with those types.

  • kaeru
    kaeru Member Posts: 1,568

    Totally agreed. I don't care about how good my opponents or how bad my teammates are. I want to play on most comfortable server and I would wait longer for a queue. So option to choose server would be best solution in that case since we can't have closer servers.

  • Zucker_Schock
    Zucker_Schock Member Posts: 565

    Well this thread and many other things can be summarized in one sentence: "The world is a mess !"

  • Todgeweiht
    Todgeweiht Member Posts: 3,666

    Well, we technically already have Anna, so a russian mass murderer killer should not be a problem

    The LGBT topic is far more complicated, im not sure if BHVR will ever be up to create a gay character in their game, it could bring too many problems and not only from russia.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    I say let it bring problems. Adding stuff like LGBT and BLM only helps to expose the toxic members of the community so they can be excised.

  • Zucker_Schock
    Zucker_Schock Member Posts: 565

    I think he meant a historical russian mass murderer, not a original killer.

  • Zucker_Schock
    Zucker_Schock Member Posts: 565

    I love how "edit comment" deletes it sometimes 👍️.

  • Todgeweiht
    Todgeweiht Member Posts: 3,666

    It will be up to the devs, I oppose the idea not because I have anything against those communities, but because it will just bring a massive amount of political controversy that I seriously dont want to see in this game

    About the historical mass murderer thing, i seriously doubt the devs will ever add a real serial killer in the game, it would be very unsensitive to the families of the people murdered, at much they could add killers partially based on those serial killer (like clown based on John Wayne Gacey), but nothing more than that.

  • GayDwight
    GayDwight Member Posts: 85

    I don’t think so. All that is prohibited by the local government in games is the mission "no Russian," cut out from a copy of the game. And the Manhunt game after one incident.

    In the past few years, the government has been trying to push through all sorts of laws relating to the Internet ("make it independent"). Most likely the developer does not want to mess with this, you never know what problems will be in the future.

  • Zucker_Schock
    Zucker_Schock Member Posts: 565

    "About the historical mass murderer thing, i seriously doubt the devs will ever add a real serial killer in the game, it would be very unsensitive to the families of the people murdered, at much they could add killers partially based on those serial killer (like clown based on John Wayne Gacey), but nothing more than that."

    Well i guess they could do Killers like Jack the Ripper since its been so long ago (1888), that no one is still alive that witnessed the murders.

  • ayaya
    ayaya Member Posts: 163
    edited June 2020

    I don't mind their verbal toxicity or cyrylic anymore. They can throw all at me. I can deal with it either reporting later on or bringing them to Hawkins and sandbagging them all.

    The real issue is their connection. 9/10 when fishy hit happen its some Soviet. Be it Russia, Belarus, Tajikistan or whatever...

    Mind you there are games who IP block them to keep them on their own servers...


    We already have Freddy which was a pedophile and no country seemed to have a problem with that. (let alone immersed Freddy mains)

  • PureHostility
    PureHostility Member Posts: 708
    edited June 2020

    All supremacy crap and toxicity aside.

    As a Pole Im often matched with or against said russians too, the issue Im having with it is... Their connection is often (practically always) subpar to anyone else, they lag a lot (obvious when they are killers, hits from light years away). It was even more obvious back in peer to peer age. Most of the lobbies I had were with yellow ping russians (150-200 when they were the host). However each time I had someone as a killer from UK, France or even Spain, ping wasnt higher than 60, at worst no higher than 90 (bar few WiFi users here and there). When I was the host, people often had ping around 40, cyrlic users seemed to have 90-120 on average. (300 mbit fiber was the net I had during p2p era).

    That was and is the only issue of me playing with or against Russians in dbd.

  • ZerLukas
    ZerLukas Member Posts: 294

    While I surely don't mind a server in Russia to reduce ping, you probably should understand something:

    Not everyone in Russia and other CIS region countries even knows English. English is hardly used in Russia (outside of English classes or talking to English-speaking foreigners) so knowing English is really not a necessity in many Russian regions. You really can't expect everyone to know it. Very often using only Russian means that a person doesn't speak English. It has nothing to do with arrogance. Or especially Stalin. Seriously, what does he have to do with anything today?

    Another example is someone like me who is Russian but speaks English. I often get into a lobby with both Russian and non-Russian people. So If I speak English I'm likely to not be understood by other Russians, if I speak Russian I'm likely to not be understood by non-Russians. So I usually only say something common like "gg" or reply in the language I'm spoken to.

    Because I often play with various European I often see languages that I don't understand at all or understand only slightly: Polish, German, Spanish. Never had a problem with that. Why does anyone? If I can't understand what someone writes than it probably isn't something adressed to me anyway.

    Toxicity-wise Russians are not any worse or better than others. Also as a Russian I face toxicity from Russia haters a lot more often than from other Russians.

    The only true problem is the distance to servers and ping. I usually get 80-120 ping which I consider acceptable but there definitely are others with even worse pings. But it also works both ways. I as a survivor get hit through pallets, windows and stuff quite often as well.

    So yeah, servers in Russia are a good idea but please stop with Russian hating already.

  • LetsPlayTogether
    LetsPlayTogether Member Posts: 2,117

    "Toxicity-wise Russians are not any worse or better than others." .. Thats a hilarious lie. Surely you cant say every russian player is toxic, but surely 90% are the worst of the worst. Quite everytime a have a toxic killer, I can assume its a russian. Its a safe call. Thats why this game sucks so much for EU players.

  • AvisDeene
    AvisDeene Member Posts: 2,396

    Excuse me, I know I may be showing my age by asking this, but, what is a “pepegas”?

  • ZerLukas
    ZerLukas Member Posts: 294

    I was telling my experience, yours might be different from mine. Also I don't meet killers whom I'd call toxic that often but our definitions of toxicity may differ as well.

    "The worst of the worst" in my book are people who send death threats or messages like "get cancer" - and I've recieved then from Russians and non-Russians as well.

  • myers_obsession
    myers_obsession Member Posts: 552

    I agree. The most toxic players I've encountered in 6.5k+ hours were Russians. Including death threats.

  • Shadowporn
    Shadowporn Member Posts: 36

    That is also a problem which is kind of connected to that, because if some russians weren't stuck in the soviet era, they would either speak english and fully belong to the european community, or have their own servers.

  • Shadowporn
    Shadowporn Member Posts: 36
    edited June 2020

    I'm russian myself, I'm just bad at making sentences in it's language. Still, I am and I don't hate on the russian ethnicity, I just rant on those kind of so called soviet people, and Europeans should not be involved in that.

  • Theetis
    Theetis Member Posts: 153

    It's a twitch thing. Basically it's an emote, and the meaning of it is that someone's being an idiot, to put things simply.