The Amanda's Letter add-on for The Pig has been Kill Switched due to an issue with incorrect RBT count.
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DC's should count as 3 hooks for killers
There still remains a signficant penalty for the killer when a survivor.
DC's usually occur when about to be hooked so should count towards a hooking.
BP isn't rewarded and loses any advantage of a perk like PGTW.
The only penality goes towards a short time out which most players have worked out how often they can DC before they go to bed or stop playing.
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Surprisingly i actually agree with you for once
Its honestly stupid that they dont ALREADY count as hook since dcs have been an issue since the games release
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Actually yeah why isnt this a thing?
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Oh come on, someone must dislike this idea? :D
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I agree to an extent. They should count as 3 hooks towards emblems, but the bloodpoint gains should stay as they are.
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For the emblems it should count as a full 3 and would agree in the BP and perks such as PGTW, BBQ, etc that this should count as 1 extra hook and gain those advantages.
Survivors can also suffer, especially those that give up on hook... I do enjoy running the map to unhook and for them to let go just as I get there or kobi or dc to play the next game with their SWF friend(s), there can be some selfish survivors who play this game.
I'd go into increasing the DC penalty system but thats a different thread I guess.
As nobody seems opposed to this we just need this implemented asap :)
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Definitely not.
A lot of times people DC because the killer's behavior is insufferable. Under no circumstance should toxic people be unjustly rewarded for making other people's games miserable, which is all this change would promote.
You don't want people to DC, don't play like an #########.
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I usually agree with you but this is a bit much, if you've ever played killer you'd know that some survivors dc for the stupidest reasons
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Dcing should never be considered justified considering it is bannable and survivors will just dc when they ######### up to deny the killer any points. Its very dumb
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I play Killer occasionally and cannot remember the last time I got DC'd on. Same as I cannot remember the last time I got DS/BT. Or the last time I had anyone particularly rude in my post game chat.
I don't disagree...I've played survivor and had people DC before anything even happened because they apparently didnt like the map or the killer or both...oh well. The Killer gets DC pts. Thats all they deserve. They didnt earn 3 hooks. They dont deserve 3 hooks worth of pts. The likelihood of them giving the survivors any alleviation is extremely slim. And for every one time that happens, I can show you 20 where the killer is being a complete and utter douche. So no, under absolutely no circumstances does anything additional need to added to the game to make the most ######### behavior possible MORE rewarding.
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3 hooks points and bbq stack
For survivors it should give +2 WGLF stacks for everyone and respective 2 unhook points
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haha thanks for the laugh mate.
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Anytime, bruh. :)
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Survivors definitely need to be rewarded for a survior DC'ing although awarding the remaining 1 or 2 unhook perk rewards / points to the remaining non-downed survivors is fairer.
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Additionally comments about any killers play style should be penalised by survivors is wrong as would a killer penalising survivors if they DC'd.
Only the game should be able to penalise the players, for killers such as points with face camping or survivors with hook farming.
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If you don't want players to DC/suicide on hook, don't:
- Camp
- Tunnel
- Slug
- Play a killer they don't like
- Mindgame them
- Down them
- Play DBD
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So then high ranking survivors shouldn't get points for escaping when they bully the rank 20 killer into disconnecting.
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Why 3 hooks though? They would have died on hook from the first. Suicide in hook isn't illegal, so shouldn't DC be considered the same (for die first hook)??
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Do survivors get full escape points for the Killer disconnecting?
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@Yung_Slug I don't have people DC in the vast majority of my killer matches. I only avoid the first two items on this list. Isn't that crazy how that works? ;)
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The past few days I've been playing survivor, I've gotten gold and iridescent Unbroken emblems after a killer disconnects, causing me to pip when I definitely didn't earn it. Pretty sure I got the 5k BP for it as well. And I got to keep any item I was holding.
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I actually haven't understood your last part, what exactly do you mean?
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I kind of have to agree with this. I was on a different account, as I had taken the disc to my cousins house, and was a rank 20. On my reg. account, I am rank one. Anyways, somehow in rank 20 queues, I had gotten three rank ones against a rank 20 killer. I didn't get out, because the killer facecamped as he was a rank 20. I died on first hook and looked at the ranks. Three rank ones against a rank 20 lol.
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Survivors get the full 5k BP and whatever unbreakable emblem how many hook states they would have would allow(Iri if not hooked, Gold if hooked once and silver if on death hook).
In addition to above if the survivors brought an item in or found one they keep it.
Meanwhile killers only get 625 BP per survivor and little to no emblem points unless 3+ survivor's leave.
Redoing the killer's part of this system is long overdue.
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625 Measly points to Brutality when I'm denied
- 600 Deviousness + 600 Deviousness + 300 Brutality + 300 Brutality + 300 or so Hunting + 500 Hook + 500 Hook + 250 Entity Summoned + 500 Survivor Sacrificed = 3850+ Blood Points for 1 DC for my Spirit.
- 250 Deviousness + 250 Deviousness +300 Brutality + 300 Brutality + 300 or so Hunting + 500 Hook + 500 Hook + 250 Entity Summoned + 500 Survivor Sacrificed = 3k+ Blood Points for 1 DC for my Nurse.
I'm not doing the math, it's an average range.
625 Points in Brutality doesn't make up for the amount lost. It's laughable.
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This plus a BBQ stack. Emblems not counting DCs is further proof that the 2.6.0 Emblem changes (when Devout had the hook actions requirement added) were rushed and weren’t tested very much. If one person DCs, then you have to three hook all of the Survivors, which can lead to unoptimal plays.
BBQ stacks not counting has baffled me for ages. I thought it would have been obvious to have an anti-DC system built into it.
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Since Unbroken is based on your time in a match, not solely your escape, that's not terribly surprising. We're not talking about a match where the Killer DCs out in the first 2 minutes. In your scenario you are bullying a low level Killer...which means you could technically evade an unskilled killer for a long duration of time to accumulate points in that particular emblem without getting downed. I can see why the game would consider it an 'escape' for the purpose of the final point tabulation vs. you being dead...because you didn't die. But you also didn't really escape at least not of your own volition. So I see what you're saying. I would have zero problem with it counting that as a death instead toward this emblem, which means the highest you could accomplish in Unbroken is silver.
Also, in this scenario, you would have had to do other objectives to pip up and been in the match long enough to do them, so I don't think pipping up on a Killer DC match you actually played is an issue. Killers can also pip when survivors DC for this same reason. You earned those points during the match while your opponent is still there.
I can understand why BHVR decided to count a Killer DC as an escape and award 5,000 pts. The Killer is in direct connection to the entity...the entity's trial is between you and the Killer...and the Killer left forfeited the match...returning you to the campfire. You did escape. You just didn't do it yourself. Also, when a Killer makes a survivor DC, the match isn't over. I don't think it makes sense to award the same pts as you would get for an escape...since when the entity kills survivors, Killers don't get the same amount of pts as a sacrifice. TBH, it would make more sense for it to be 2,500, since a Killer is awarded 625 per survivor, or a total of 2,500. But I can see why they consider it an escape...as well as why, by the same logic, you could argue that a DC is a Kill.
But, in short, no I don't think survivors should get full escape points for Killer DCs. Like Killers, they didn't earn it.
The fact is, however, that survivors make Killers DC less than Killers make survivors DC because its not as easy to be legitimately toxic. I'm not talking about teabagging or hitting people on hooks level toxic. I'm talking about first hook face camping, tunnel mori toxic. That ######### just isn't enjoyable, yet its rampant in the game, and I completely understand why survivors DC out of those matches. That killer, intentionally making the game unenjoyable for 4 other people, doesn't deserve to get rewarded for that behavior. Just like your red ranks bullying a rank 20, as much as that is an extremist example of the match making system, those people shouldn't be rewarded either. It only incentivizes it. And if there's anything DBD doesn't need any more of, it's toxicity.
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If 2 guys are in a ring and about to box. The match has started but before any blows are thrown, .one dude dies of a heart attack. Does the other guy get the belt? Or whole match disqualified?
if the belt would be given...then all awards should go to Killer in this situation .
disregard my previous post...there's more to this than my understanding...I don't understand how bp and rankings or any of that works...
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Not a great analogy with a 1v1 game or a heart attack?
But replace the heart attack with something more similar of a fighter/player just walking away once the fight had started then yes, the fighter forfeits the match.
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Why don't BHVR make these changes as most would agree they are fairer
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