Why can killers cherrypick their opponents but survivors can't?
Just watched a streamer who dodged multiple teams in a row after checking each steam profile. He did it so long till he felt comfortable enough to beat the team. How is that in the game while survivors can't do the same?
Edit: to clarify, I'm only talking about showing killers name and profile, not the killer picked.
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Because killers are supposed to have more information than survivors by design. That's just the way of things.
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It’s just a dumb design choice. It should be enough to see the characters/skins and items. It would also make grieving one specific survivor nearly impossible.
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As long as it also shows SWF, sure.
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Exactly my question, but then I literally get jumped with the dumbest reasons.
I'm a Huntress with Exhaustion Addons, what am I afraid of? The lobby gets filled in seconds, who cares if they leave.
Like I'm not already going against 4 Dead Hards, 4 DS's, 4 BTs and 4 Adrenalines as Nurse and Huntress.
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That's the advantage they want to give the Killer in the lobby.
Survivors can prepare together, Killer can observe them.
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If you want to give up SWF for the ability to see which killer you're up against be my guest.
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SWF can be problematic, but they mostly are not. And most killers would be surprised if they really got to know who were SWF and who were not. I am getting called out for it on soloq way too often.
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I think they should remove survivor gamertags from lobby/during game. Let them be available at end game.
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So how are you supposed to report the right one, if necessary?
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This is the best explanation I’ve read on this topic. It’s one of those things that’s obvious and so ingrained that people walk right past it in these discussions.
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We should be able to see the killer's username too.
Not the killer they are playing, however.
The reason is:
I want to lobbydodge people who play like *ssholes.
I also want to lobbydodge people who will harass me because they've seen me in previous games.
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In game have them labeled Survivor1 Survivor2 and at endgame screen have that with their gamertag. Could even do Meg1 Meg2 to make it easier.
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lol
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Killers are suppose to have advantage although it doesn’t really provide much of an advantage really but it’s there for that reason. If a killer is going to judge a team based on that and drop out it’s his advantage or want to do so. I know when I am killer (rank 1) I cannot be asked to look at every profile or search for items I may not like And then make a decision for mori or new lobby. Especially because then there is no challenge to it at times and sometimes doesn’t matter depending if you are really good killer or bad one. When I play survivor (rank 1) I am just happy the change to keep us in game waiting lobby was made so killer can’t disconnect and easily find another lobby while survivors have to wait again so honestly not a huge deal.
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If they really wanted survivors to "prepare" , they would at the very least allow us to be able to communicate through voice chat in the lobby because half the time I start typing "I'm bringing BT an--" chat closed. *match starts*
Also, they could allow survivors to hover over the items the other survivors are bringing, so I'm not squating up and down trying to hint "Hey I got this to help you!". This is why I don't hardly play solo anymore. Too many misinterpreted messages and signaling gone wrong.
I really don't care that killers can see who they are facing, but I do think it's funny when they lobby dodge. To me that's the equivalent of a dc, just without the punishment.
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What could be better about the lobby is something you can suggest in the Feedback section.
All i know is that Survivors talking & Killer watching is what they want.
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Don't press "Ready" until you type your message and make sure everyone read it. However, in my experience, survivors don't give a ######### and just assume you're bringing the stale meta perks anyway. If you mention you're not or try to discuss a potential strategy, expect abuse.
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Because then I can just prepare myself to completely counter the killer
Oh, its a trapper? Then I can just bring a map and know where all your traps are!
Oh, its an stealth killer? Then I should bring spine chill
Oh, its a plague? Better unequip my medkit!
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I did not know that this is what the devs wanted. Hmm.
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@Orion
It's not user friendly. I used to assume that survivors didn't care what I brought, I was wrong.
I've had many people legit say "Oh I'm sorry I didn't know that's what you meant."
It should be more player/user friendly is what I am saying. Half the time I am not even paying attention to chat in the lobby because of queue times.
I used to play F13 and this was one of the features I enjoyed because it gave people an idea of other players and their intentions during a match. If someone is doing a challenge it is much easier to grasp than me wondering why they keep refusing to do the objective while the rest of the team seems to be carrying... aka better preparedness.
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Sorry that i can't link you to the official source as it's a few years since that time, but Mathieu Cote did address Killers seeing Survivors in the lobby on a dev stream before.
Simply saying that this is an advantage they want to give the Killer.
And giving the Survivors the ability to chat just seemed natural.
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It is a 4v1, I can totally understand the devs' choice to implement it in that way, for flashlights and SWF teams.
But some people abuse this to target people, as it was stated here by Mooks:
It would make sense if the killers weren't able to see their name tags at least.
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It's a survivor sided game so killers must have some advantages also. But I never even heard of this thing or know what steam is, but every group of survivors will get to play against a killer no worries. If it's a better or worse killer than the one that dodged them who knows. Everyone will get to play anyway and have their fun.
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It's not like, you can change your steam user name at any given time dude. And i can tell you, i remember nobody from any game.
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I agree, it's not user friendly. I'm just giving you tips on how you can deal with it right now.
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I’d love to see the killer, then I can dodge Spirits all day long.
But at the very least I want to see their profile name. So that I can keep tabs on Killers who I know play scummy and dodge them accordingly.
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I'm not saying EVERYONE is going to be like this. I was not saying you, for example, are going to be like that. Trust me.
But a few killers will bring moris/tunnel/camp me because they've seen me in other games and want to troll me. I want to be able to lobby dodge that. And yes, I do get the same killers multiple games in a row because this community is pretty small, especially with ranks.
And I shouldn't have to change my username to dodge killers like that. That is a beyond toxic mindset. I am not changing my username because someone decides to be a d*ck in a video game. If anything, it's encouraging them to be like that even more.
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It doesn't have to extend to that way to cherrypick your opponents. I'm not aware of another multiplayer game which can cherrypick to that extend
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So basically: if you want to play dbd make your profile fully private?
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I don't mind, I'm a solo Q majn
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Ugh, god, same. Truly suffering.
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It's a 4v1 game and in game the killer actually has to do more. Therefore, they get the benefit of preparation time. This question has come up many, many times. You should have used the search feature.
Also, you're mistaken if you think most killers check profiles. Most killers just queue up and wait.
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Endgame. As always.
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And how do you know who to report if you don't know their names until then?
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That's not what I asked for tho
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MicroPP issues
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Don't think so, my Steam friends all have open profiles and play just fine.
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Player 1 = oOrion, player 2 = DwightOP etc etc
It's really not that complicated
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Yes, the other guy already covered that.
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How is it preparation if killers go into the steam profiles, check out how many hrs or comments thaz player got and decide to dodge the lobby due to this information? That's not preparation, that's cherrypicking ez games.
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I go in to check for SWF. I'm not going to play the same way against 2-4 players I know are sharing everything they see and hear as I would 1-4 randoms.
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Well I can't, many killers dodge me when they see my hrs and achievements. Or bring ivory moris just for me (some killers admitted it that they tunneled mori because of my experience and they wanted to get me out asap for easier game).
I even see that on Twitch happening
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Yeah that's okay, I don't mind if killers would check out and ACTUALLY prepare themselves against that with sweaty loadouts. That's fine, I don't mind it. My problem is that killers just dodge till they find their Easy lobby with the informations given by steam profiles.
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Oh okay, you mean the profiles exclusively.
Yeah sure, i don't care about that.
But just saying the dodging wouldn't end there.
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I know, but that would remove a lot of grieving, targeting, toxicity and whole bunch of dodging
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Sure, i can agree to that.
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Changing name whenever you feel like it for free isn't an option for console. PS4 you get one freebie then have to pay for each additional time, plus on top of that you risk losing online data for different games when you change it.
I've had back to back matches against the same killer. I don't play toxic but if I escaped the previous match that killer is finding me first and camping because they are mad they didn't get me the previous round.
On FB groups there are killers that admit they keep a file on players they didn't like and check it before the match. Depending on killer they either dodge or target that person at start of match. Has nothing to do with remembering.
Survivors shouldn't have to change their usernames to avoid being targeted by salty killers.
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They Already have that, it's a third party program that lets them know the killer a head of the match starting. Ever wonder why anytime you play Spirit that there are always 3-4 iron wills but never on other killers?
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But killers don't use that information to prepare for a normal match but to dodge lobbys when they someone with a lot of hrs. Or remember a profile and decide to Bubba facecamp or mori tunnel him. That's the issue I have with showing the name and profiles of survivors to the killer.
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I always use iron will
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