General Discussions
General Discussions
The best counter to red rank swf
The most optimal and easiest counter to a toxic red rank swf.
Let the hate comments roll in
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It's not even hate dude, it's just a lot of the members here even when playing solo have been accused of SWFing, it happens all the time and while you're making your life easier which is fair enough the majority of the time you're just tunnel mori'ing solo queues so good on you, lol.
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- How do you know its a SWF? Killer should not have to pay alot of time checking profiles.
- How do you know they will be toxic?
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I mean I guess. Maybe not the most sustainable counter but whatever.
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Lol nah. I do just fine without a mori.
I actually find them boring as killer.
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Ah yes. All human beings who play a certain role in the video game ALWAYS ACTS THE SAME WAY.
Come back when you take your training wheels off.
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What? From my experience yes. Sitting at rank 2 and red rank multiple seasons in a row most red rank swfs act the same. I dont understand how severely butthurt you are but ok.
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I always find it funny that killers bring mori's always *nearly* lose when they do. It's almost like anybody who need to use one isn't good at the game but who knows being able to take a survivor out of the game for doing the bare minimum just means you're better.
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well one SOME killers players yes its funny that they need it to win, But not always, only time i bring moris are for those p3 clauds and even though i don't need it to win gotta follow the rule blendettes get mori'd
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or just play nurse/spirit and ######### on 99% of teams
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Yes please we need more Nurses on Xbox we miss her terribly!
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Most red rank survivors are either really bad, crutch on their perks, or are solo. And when they're good I want a challenge. No thank you.
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If i see a key, i bring a mori. Nothing too it
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Why do you use "toxic" and "red rank swf" together? You assume, just because someone is playing in a SWF that they are toxic?
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But what if they aren't a swf or red ranks or toxic? You've just wasted your offering.
Bubba seems to do a good enough job for me.
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Or just play like a scumbag. No need for a mori if you slug everyone.
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you don’t need a mori if you’re good
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So you tell us youre a bad player. Wow, nothing new to see here.
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When they are being toxic I totally agree.
Sometimes we can presume this.
But for me, mori makes the match looks like some kind of waste of time, cause you don't gonna get so many points as you could if you play normally,and the match will be less funny than it could be, cause it will be more shorter.
But I agree that sometimes It works like some kind of therapy hahhaha
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People assume so many things are SWF though. As a purely solo survivor I know this, gens go fast it’s SWF. Body block for each other it’s SWF. Train out the door after unhooking someone, it’s SWF.
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How do you know they’re toxic pre game
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"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?"
:P
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I only ever bring them for fun and dont NEED them for 90% of my matches to win. What ive noticed is that within that 90% the survivors know you have it and become hyper focused on gens, even solo. They want them done as quickly as possible so they dont get mori'd. Even the most potato of red ranks can find a gen and hold m1 and theyll skip totems and chests and everything else to do so when a mori is in play
That other 10% it doesnt help much.
Thats been my experience anyway
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Lol at people calling you a bad player for using a mori when they needs comms
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Uhh I body block for randoms all the time.
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I bring ebony moris if all four survivors have toolboxes
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People always forgetting that on some platforms it's really fast and easy to check if a group is a SWF or not. (On PC, at least)
What's weird to me is how many SWF's will go on denying it even when I can see their friends list. Or how many people on forums insist that they would never do things like communicate.
It's ok, guys. Everyone does it. 😁
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That’s what I mean, I do too! Make a save and eat the hit, especially when it’s end game and you’re all headed to the exit.
But killer’s like to pretend that this one simple act PROVES we are a coordinated SWF... uhm no baby killer once you have a few hours into the game that becomes basic strategy.
im well aware of my friends list, I can guarantee you no one on it plays DBD. I am strictly 100% solo but I get accused at least once a day of “nice SWF,” by a killer who lost.
Some things are basic strategy like the above body block, sometimes it comes down to me running kindred or bond I guess and having that Info?
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Never singled you out specifically, nor did I make any reference to strategies. I said that it's extremely easy to check on Steam, so it's not like people on PC are guessing or something, it's pretty obvious.
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Fair enough, but many people jump to conclusion. Maybe not you but here are some things people think is 100% proof it’s SWF.
Pregame. Two or more survivors having private profiles. All Four survivor already being in lobby when killer joins. Two survivors having flashlights. All four survivors having any item at all.
During game. Any sort of body block. Any head on in the middle of a chase. Train out the door during endgame collapse.
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Ah okay. I misread that. At first I thought you were saying that was how you spotted swf.
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To be fair, most swfs i encounter are toxic. They also let me just die on the hook as solo most times.
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I guess it comes down to what you consider toxic? Is body blocking and flashlight to save each other toxic? Not really if you ask me.
Clicky clicky follow me around while I chase someone else? Toxic but actually pretty helpful to me as a killer because now one chase is occupying two survivors.
Teabags at pallets, Meh I see that fell solo survivors all the time.
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Basically: Salty Killer main gets outplayed by a 4 man SWF with communication (Which by the way isn’t against the rules) so he uses an Ebony Mori, which is notoriously unbalanced.
People like you just make the game unpleasant for those who want to enjoy the game. I suppose you got so used to dealing with brain dead solo survivors that you don’t even have the skill to deal with SWF.
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The irony of this post is absolutely comical.
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LOL dude, most of my games in red ranks are against swf.
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It's not as easy as it used to, before they implement dedicated servers
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Im new here and idk how to leave a video link but i do know how to deal with those swf'ers lol i hooked 3 of them in the basement a couple of days ago at the meat plant. Soooooo satisfying. Also got a end game collapse on all 4 toxic survivors during another match. Good times. 😆
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What do you base that on?
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I suppose you're that survivor main who uses a key for himself early on in the game, allowing the killer to close it and pressure survivors because of the EGC.
In all seriousness, I don't appreciate it when a survivor/killer main fights about the other side when they probably haven't tried it out at all, it's quite ignorant. That's why I listen to the opinions/constructive arguments from people who've stated that they play both sides, particularly at red ranks, because they have the stronger opinion/argument from experience.
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Survivors friend lists
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So key users are automatically bad players? Would you classify key users and second chance abusers bad aswell?
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When you either see 2 flashlights and 2 medkits. A key and 3 toolboxes or 4 flashlights you are most likely playing with a swf. If you've played killer for a certain amount of time it's very easy to tell when they have a very key bond and link to eachother.
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You seem to imply that I don’t play both sides...Also the ranks do not matter, at the moment they seem like they are based entirely on how time you spend on the game rather than actual skill.
Also there is no Issue with SWF. I have been up against optimal SWF groups and even then I can secure myself 1-2 Kills easily and still enjoy myself. Other times it’s just a group of friends having some fun and not tryharding.
Admittedly there are some killers (M1 Mainly) that will struggle against SWF groups but that’s a problem that should be addressed by devs and not a fault of SWF.
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If you can catch them
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Very easy actually, very similar names or names that are like this clan view type thing like "Jagged(Ex)" then Slashymcstabber(Ex)"
Or they all pick the exact same character with the exact same cosmetic set. And even if they aren't SWF after that second one they should be treated as such.
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Half the time when I escape in solo queue, the killers proceed to complain about SWF in postgame chat. Many killer players make the mistake of assuming anyone who actually knows how to play the game is in a SWF.
Things SWF does not do: Make survivors better in a chase. Make killers worse in a chase.
You don't improve by dodging tough games or cheesing them with garbage mechanics like Ebony Moris. I can usually point out multiple mistakes a killer made against me if 3 gens pop during the first chase. You can bring an Ebony, or you can learn to rotate me counterclockwise around cow tree to force a medium vault.
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I play both sides at rank 1-2, tho rank means nothing nowadays so meh;
moris are a dumpster fire in game balancing and should really only be in KYF, especially since people can just alt f4 if they see the offering. People like to bring up keys as a counter point, but unlike moris, keys cannot be used straight out of the gate, they have to have done gens. If anything has to happen to keys, add a progress bar like the gate, that’s it.
i also don’t play nurse or spirit anymore for easy wins, I play huntress to have fun and be generally fair for what it’s worth
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If only I only got ebonied when in swf </3
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I bring a mori if I assume you are swf, but don't use it unless they're toxic #########
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If I just had a ######### game, I take it out on my next game with one hit hatchets and first hook Mori.
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