Soooo We're Finally Not Going To Dance Around Character Orentation

Honestly I hate pride month. Having an entire month dedicated to how different you are kinda sucks. Often tends to be the roughest time to be one too as the sexuality is just being tossed around for marketing the entire month. Having companies spontaneously declare characters gay on pride month for publicity is just plain irritating. Makes it blatant that it's just corporate.

So am I and it's not like it doesn't bleed over a lot past the border. Pride month ends up happening just as much here as the states.

Well, I apologize for anything I've said here that comes across as "straightsplaining," as it were. Obviously there are a whole range of opinions here, but I suppose it sucks to have the feeling that your identity is being treated as a prop.

I could really care less about such things in video games and I think it's dumb to make a big deal out of it. Some things should be kept unknown and the person playing that character is more than welcome to believe, to them, they are what they are. Instead you're forcefully taking what some people may already do and forcing them to accept their favorite character is this, or is that, and all of their cosmetics in the future become heavily based around it for all we know.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is I wish this type of political garbage was left out of a platform that it has no real reason in being in outside of pleasing groups of people. In my experience the people who complain about there being a lack of, say, LGBT things in a video game, are the same type of people who are the kind of people that give LGBT people a bad name. They're the kind of people who force their opinions and beliefs onto you but then hate when you do it to them. And they're the kind of people who say "Bisexual is fine, if you're with someone of the same sex, not opposite." This type of behavior only leads to more problems and more divide.

Just my opinion, as I have experience with that community. See, Blizzard did the same thing as this, and guess what? Like every company who says they support this type of thing, it's all just for money. They don't support you at all, they support your money. Look at us, we're inclusive, play our game.

Oh God please don't use that word. This whole "only people with the lived experience can have an opinion" thing is just some weirdly popularized junk that has infected the world lately. Your allowed your own opinion just am I am. I just feel far too many people are putting too much effort into "helping" to the point it's actually causing damage. I can atleast say for myself just being treated as a person not a person of x group is all I ask for.

I wouldn't know for Quebec on the whole in particular as it's kind of the strange offshoot of Canada having visited Pride Street/Gay Village during pride month in Montreal I can safely say yes. It's certainly got it's roots in the one place I've been in Quebec. It's not exactly a distant land and the internet rather diffuses things all over quite effectively. Thanks to the Internet things can be quite wide reaching beyond mere borders.

Not a problem at all.

because they never stated that character would be gay. But also because I don’t care for the sexual orientation of the character at all.

i made the same argument because your argument was the same, you are saying they might change the char in the future and that will stop you from playing that char, I say they don’t change the char, they just add something, as long as there are no contradictions to previously stated lore there should be no problem. They are not making a char gay, they are just not restricting themselves in the future and are now able to mention same-sex relations and other personal backstory lore, which they already now add to existing chars.

oh and just to get as personal as you: your arguments were the lousy ones from the beginning. How could you care that much about some fictional character? And even if stated officially, you can still have your own lore in mind (I think it’s called head canon?) and nothing would change.

@Boss

I mean... basing things off of their track record I would say the story will make sense where it makes sense. That's the whole point of them even announcing this.

But I also think it's unfair that some people want to jump the gun before they even add anything.

"I don't have anything against gay people, I just don't like that they're visible in any way and wish they would get away from me."

That's what you sound like right now, just wanted to let you know.

No. Toughen up and dont act like a victim cuz you're not. Dont try to make me a homophobe.

Sorry but the fact that posts like this make you feel sick is just telling that you do have something against gay people. (Alone that phrasing.. lol)

just keep your hate to yourself and ignore posts like this. They don’t attack you and shouldn’t affect you in any way if you don’t have anything against any LGBT+ people/chars.

DbD and the creators of DbD just stated that they do have something to do with it and they want to include people of the community and they don’t want to exclude anyone.

Heterosexuality was added to the game a few years ago, where was your outrage then?

PS: My reference to "people like this" wasn't even about you.

I ve started playing recently and also recently joined the forums as you can see from the number of my posts. I'd reacted the same way cuz i don't see stuff like this important for the game. How about they fix bugs and balance it better. Priorities my people and not this. Use youre imagination and every character can be gay, straight or whatever else you want him to be.

Well the problem was they said they won’t mention the sexuality of character so that you could self insert etc. But they did mention multiple heterosexual relationships (notably Nurse was married to a man, Julie and Frank, David had an ex).

so in a way they contradicted themselves and excluded everything non hetero.

now they just mentioned they revised their stand on this and they will include LGBT+ in the lore etc. because of people giving feedback and questioning them about it.

this will in no way stand in the way for bug fixing etc. The people writing the lore etc are not the same and will not actually work more on it now, they are just not restricted anymore.

You don’t have to, that’s totally fine! but there are people that care and it does not hurt anybody to include non hetero relationships. And there are people pretty much saying „I don’t care but pls exclude everything gay“

Lore and backstory of characters is nothing new, so actually nothing should really change with this but some people feel more included in a way.

This is so well written! I couldn’t write something that well in my native language if my life depended on it..

thank you so much for not staying silent and for not letting the negative comments get the upper hand!