Hooks amount nerf.
The Pale Rose 16 to 12
Mother's Dwelling 11 to 8
Grim Pantry 14 to 8
Rotten Fields 10 to 11
Shelter Woods 10 to 9
Disturbed Ward 9 to 6
Azarov's Resting Place 8 to 6
Blood Lodge 9 to 7
Fractured Cowshed 10 to 8
Lampkin Lane 10 to 12
Torment Creek 10 to 8
Gas Heaven 9 to 11
Wreckers' Yard 8 to 6
Wretched Shop 9 to 7
Ironworks of Misery 9 to 6
Suffocation Pit 8 to 9
The Thompson House 9 to 10
Groaning Storehouse 8 to 7
Family Residence 11 to 9
Badham Preschool 9 to 11
The Game 11 to 7
Father Campbell's Chapel 7 nothing changes
Rancid Abattoir 8 to 10
Coal Tower 7 nothing changes
Treatment Theatre 10 to 6
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The amount of hooks is proportional to the size of the map. The bigger map, the more hooks are scattered throughout the trial area. I also don't think that amount of hooks should be decreased on any map.4
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You also need to take into the equation that hooks are unusable when someone is sacraficed and can also be removed by survivor offerings. The amount we have is fine.
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No
It would just make Boil over a meta perk and the slug meta come back
And that's without counting the offering that remove hooks and the fact that it will bring back sabotage into play because it will make it way easier to make no hook area4 -
@ArecBalrin said
Survivors keep claiming there are more hooks but produce not a shred of evidence for it. In reality there has been no change to number of hooks per map, but the pattern in which they spawn, leaving places where they cluster and places where there is no chance of reaching one even without any being broken or used. Survivors only remember the former case, this is confirmation-bias at work.
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@LordziPL said:
The Pale Rose 16 to 12
Mother's Dwelling 11 to 8
Grim Pantry 14 to 8
Rotten Fields 10 to 11
Shelter Woods 10 to 9
Disturbed Ward 9 to 6
Azarov's Resting Place 8 to 6
Blood Lodge 9 to 7
Fractured Cowshed 10 to 8
Lampkin Lane 10 to 12
Torment Creek 10 to 8
Gas Heaven 9 to 11
Wreckers' Yard 8 to 6
Wretched Shop 9 to 7
Ironworks of Misery 9 to 6
Suffocation Pit 8 to 9
The Thompson House 9 to 10
Groaning Storehouse 8 to 7
Family Residence 11 to 9
Badham Preschool 9 to 11
The Game 11 to 7
Father Campbell's Chapel 7 nothing changes
Rancid Abattoir 8 to 10
Coal Tower 7 nothing changes
Treatment Theatre 10 to 6You want to reduce the hooks on Backwater Swamp? Absolute madlad.
Also, nicht gut, wiggling wasn't made to get you out every time, it was made to prevent the killer from holding you hostage or taking you to basement every time.
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Are you looking to revive the Slug Meta?
Because that's how you get a Slug Meta!
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The number of hook imo is fine, it's their distribution that sometimes sucks. Having a cluster of hooks easily campable while in an area of the map you're forced to slug it's not ok.
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They could work on the distribution a little as sometimes they are clustered or routes to the basement are not spawning well with regards to other hook spots. A reduction in hooks would lead to horrible slug and sabo gameplay where neither side had any fun at all so I really can't support this idea.
If a killer has downed a survivor he should really be able to hook them...
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This. The current hook distribution is pretty bad. It would feel better for both sides if they were spread out a little more evenly.White_Owl said:The number of hook imo is fine, it's their distribution that sometimes sucks. Having a cluster of hooks easily campable while in an area of the map you're forced to slug it's not ok.
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Hook distribution does need to be fixed, but if you really want an even amount of hooks per map (these values are based on an average of 14-15 tiles per hook):
The Pale Rose - 15 hooks (was 16) -1
Grim Pantry - 12 hooks (was 14) -2Mother's Dwelling - 13 hooks (was 11) +2
Rotten Fields - 12 hooks (was 10) +2
Fractured Cowshed - 12 hooks (was 10) +2
Torment Creek - 12 hooks (was 10) +2
The Thompson House - 11 hooks (was 9) +2
Rancid Abattoir - 9 hooks (was 8) +1Shelter Woods - 12 hooks (was 10) +2
Ironworks of Misery - 11 hooks (was 9) +2
Suffocation Pit - 11 hooks (was 8) +3
Groaning Storehouse - 11 hooks (was 8) +3
Coal Tower - 9 hooks (was 7) +2Disturbed Ward - 12 hooks (was 9) +3
Father Campbell's Chapel - 10 hooks (was 7) +3Azarov's Resting Place - 12 hooks (was 8) +4
Blood Lodge - 12 hooks (was 9) +3
Gas Heaven - 11 hooks (was 9) +2
Wreckers' Yard - 11 hooks (was 8) +3
Wretched Shop - 11 hooks (was 9) +2Lampkin Lane - 12 hooks (was 10) +2
Family Residence - 11 hooks (already at average)
Badham Preschool - 10 hooks (was 9) +1
The Game - 10 hooks (was 11) -1
Treatment Theatre - 8 hooks (was 10) -2
Overall hook nerfs: 4 maps
Overall hook buffs: 20 maps
Unchanged hook: 1 mapPost edited by CoolAKn on2 -
If this were to happen, I'd be bringing Third Seal, Knockout, Deerstalker, and Ruin every game.
I just don't see that much of an issue with hook numbers th, the only issue is WHERE some of them are placed. I've had hooks bunched up in the corners of the map with little to none anywhere else.0 -
This is basically buffing survivors again, theyve had enough icing on their cake man, the hook amounts are fine, it takes forever to get a kill as it is, no need to make the hooking process an uncertain task in which survivors can wiggle free more times, and when you use a hook it vanishes too so a survivor could crawl to a safe area where there arent hooks for miles, and the killer couldnt do anything but bleed them out. i feel like this survivor/killer community could be compared to females and males, survivors being the females, (not saying they are female just comparing) where if you hit them, theres all this controversy and most girls start crying and screaming for the men to go to jail or in dbd terms "nerf the killer more" and the females can keep hitting the males and apparently thats not prison worthy or in dbd terms "nerf worthy" etc. ill stop now x)
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If penetration from behind hurts that much, just tell us upfront, sheesh.
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Lol you want to see a slug meta? The hooks are like this for a reason.0
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Nice, another bright proposition to make DbD unplayable.
Have you seen how many hooks there are on Grim Pantry or Lery's? Literally, there are spots from which killer have no chance to bring you to the nearest hook, and you want to reduce the numbers? Only for one free mori without needing to hook someone.
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Guy guys, we can trust this is in good faith. He has Freddy as a profile picture so obviously a Killer main.0
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I'm maining Freddy no long time ago, but now I balance all killers and survivor.
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