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Need help/advice from high ranked and exp killers

Hey guys, im stucked in rank progression as a killer, il skip all things about unbalance etc as i cant change that. I want to improve, im quite new to the game it self ( less then two months playing )
Problem that im having is i cant find way to stop survivors from poping gens like its 4th of july. Ruin doesnt help, overcharge is usless.
I understand that i have to put pressure on survivors and thats is best way to win. But it seems im failing at it starting from rank 10 this reset. ( im mentioning reset, coz i know many players didnt yet had time to progress to their usual ranks etc)
What i tried:
Patroling gens like mad, kicking them and trying to find their repairman or someone whos not best suited for runner. Ignoring guy who wants me to chase him etc. It didnt work. Even when i find that one guy, by the time hes on hook, they repaired at least 2 gens, as i dont camp, guy will be off the hook in no time and i basicly done nothing.
I tryed with patroling mostly area where 3 closest gens are and stop them from doing them. But in that case they do everything they can to pull me as far away from those as posible, if i quit chase and return to them, they just finish other gens and then spread in 2x2 teams and repair 1 gen abit while im kicking other one, while i come back to kick that one, other team reapirs gen i just kicked, it basicly just stale game as ######### but it gets me no where.
If i tunnel one guy they just keep repairing gens and ignore hooked mate until last moments before his about to proc into p2 of hook.
So yeah im getting to point where i dont know what to do anymore. So i could use some advices on how exacly do i put that pressure and stop them from poping gens.
I play ONLY Myers and Pig. I tend to save good offerings and addons atm as i want to have tons of each good to force progress ranks when i get better at game or when balance is tweaked. So all red/purple/good green addons i tend to save, same with offerings like red mori.

Perks that i usualy use would be:
Myers: Ruin, bbq (need xp always), whispers, NOED, Monitor, franklins demise ( i rotate those more or less )
Pig: Ruin, bbq, whispers, NOED, make your choice, franklins demise

My hope is that from patch i use that new hex totem for trying to have ruin for longer then 30sec. But i dont think that perk will make all deference in the world for me. Players just gonna go for it and then maybe try to stay low while exposed, or maybe they wont give fck about that as in 1min i might get 1 or if im lucky 2 hooks that they just gonna unhook anyway so yea removing ruin from game will still be their prio i think.

Btw maybe worth mentioning, i dont let players loop me around palet, on this ranks its still easy to make them drop palet before it stuns me. I very rarely get stunned by palet. But i do waste lots of time destroying them as first guy tends to run all around dropping every single palet there is. Prolly im doing something wrong there as well.

With Myers i usualy get max 2x evil within 3 on this ranks.
With Pig i try to mind game on loops by crouching somewhere closest to palet and then try to ambush them in random direction before they get back to palet, but tbh it seems im doing something wrong there as well as it works for me in maybe 20% of cases.

If you know some good youtubers that have good videos on Myers and Pig let me know, i did watch some from two guys, one that has pony tail hes good but tbh it didnt help me much, and there was another guy that has some general tips for kilers etc but those were some basic stuff that i already knew.

While i do think game is very unbalanced with SWFs, i want to ignore all that and try to improve my self. So any advices from expirienced and high ranked killers is welcomed.

Comments

  • Stiletto
    Stiletto Member Posts: 49

    Btw dont know if its worth mention, but for some reason, most likely hex totem placement, on SAW map i never lost until today for god knows how many trials. Its always 4 kills, im lost on that map just like most ppl, but for some reason i tend to score extremly good there, just today it was my first game where they found totem in less then min and yea i lost, hard.

    But there are some maps i get bad scores at, its usualy swamp with boat or other version of it. Dont know why, but thats how it is for me.

  • Sarief
    Sarief Member Posts: 543
    edited September 2018

    best way to stall gens is to play hag and hex meta, people will be careful to make hook saves and totem breaking. Will be even more dangerous with new hex coming out

    second best way: find someone early and soft camp him. go to 2-3 nearest gens and hooks. Try to find someone early, break pallets in area.
    Once you down someone and can down someone else (only see 1, not 2 or 3) down them and leave one slugging. Tunnel the unhooked and try to keep downed guy on the ground. For this tactic sloppy butcher and thanatophobia are best friends, since picking up slugged person is pain with this build.

    third best way: tunnel with One Hit Kill killer.

    for Myers, camping and soft patroling is actually the best way to get EW. Get all you can and then chase someone for ez kills.

    for Pig, it's actually slugging, down one, put helmet on, and wait for someone to try pick him up or search nearby crouched (ambush it is). down the second guy, put him on hook. Try to find slug when he tries to find correct key. Tunnel the hooked. Should stall the game pretty good.

    edit: do not put trap on tunneled guy, don't waste it if you want him dead. If there is unhooker, don't be afraid to hit him, this should stall him from doing gens.

  • Steebear
    Steebear Member Posts: 105

    I have left my steam profile with you bud, add me when you get chance and I will talk you through some things :)

  • Stiletto
    Stiletto Member Posts: 49

    Sarief thank you for your advices!
    Regarding some other killer to play is not for me, there are 4 killers i like and would play, and thats Myers, Pig, Freddy and Wraith, as Freddy and Wraith are bad i dont play them. Not interested into Nurse, or Billy, Hag etc.

    For your second advice, yea i was doing that for a while, but i get so much hate after match from survivors i still wait for some to get perma ban (as they stated on last stream that things like super heavy cursing and irl threats will be perma banned asap)
    I know how survivors think its unfair to soft camp etc, but how its ok for them to use discord and abuse every posible thing they can. So maybe ur right, im playing "nice" and i dont even get thanks for playing fair or something, all i get is to feel like usless ######### and maybe even tbagged on exit gates, maybe some EZ on end of game lobby.
    Its just it makes me feel bad for camping when its important, i feel like im gimping my self if i just let them free unhook each time, i mean as a killer that way you need 12 hooks in total for whole team, and what they need? 5 gens by 4 ppl.... I will srsly consider this advice.

    Regarding your last advice for pig, i never even knew about that tactic, if i did understand you correctly, i put rbt on first guy and dont hook him, but rather make him a bait? gotta try that one.

    Thanks man!

  • Stiletto
    Stiletto Member Posts: 49

    Btw if it means anything, here is list of all perks i got.

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  • Sarief
    Sarief Member Posts: 543

    @Stiletto no, don't leave him if you don't know other survs are nearby. But feel free to drop him of the shoulder if you see one. Traps are to stall game, not to kill. There is high chance no one will pick him up, if only 1 surv nearby and you chase him. Once you put him on the hook, crouch near slug and someone will try to save him.
    Waiting for full 180 seconds is stupid and won't help.
    But you might try to fake running away, especially if it's DS and rancor is in play :D

    Also, if you show mercy to survivors, you're not killer yet. Being ashamed of playing the game? #########. Tunnel and camp, if it's most effective. I soft patrol with trapper, since I place traps and kick gens. I have more than enough things to do near hook :D

  • LRGamer
    LRGamer Member Posts: 160
    Play Killers like The Doctor, Nurse, Hillbilly or the Clown
    (Most People still don’t know how to play against the Doctor)
    so Nurse or Billy if you see no other Option
    Nurse is Hard but just play her more and you SHOULD get better with her.
    Or take the easy Option and learn how to play The Hillbilly effective.
    Ruin can still be effective.
    Btw The Patch is coming Doom so a lot of Clusterf**k Loop Windows will be blocked so chases will be better
    Or Maybe Play Freddy to get to lower Ranks if you can’t withstand the Pressure

  • Sarief
    Sarief Member Posts: 543
    Bonus point, if you have sloppy and thana, thana will mask mangled from Uniteduni survivor. If they attempt to make last 15 percent bar with you nearby, they guaranteed fail. 

    Add knockout, and you can leave the slug (add blindness add-on for extra salt) 
    Tunneling one to hooks leaves you with 4 traps for 3 survivess