I have been doing pretty well with him. Some of my favorite killer streamers have also been slaying with him, and are calling him overpowered. There's tons of spots at loops where it's hard to dodge the attack or the survivor is forced to vault; which is almost a guaranteed hit if you predict it.

Fair enough, it's impossible to dodge while vaulting due to the animation lock. However, if I was easily able to dodge it in those long, tight hallways in the Silent Hill map, I don't see why there'd be a problem on other maps.

Seems to me if a killer has a power that is 'complicated' or difficult to master then you are not going to see many players using them. The newer killers like Oni, Demo, Deathslinger I rarely ever see.

Pyramid head is Just a version of demo.

Instead of jumping towards the survivor he uses a range attack. Both Powers shine in faking the power or using the power on Windows and vaults.

The reason why i think demo is a bit better is because he has map control because of the portal.

Ph cages CAN apply Map pressure or it can backfire and the survivors get a free escape so no map pressure.

He's a killer you got to learn so I just feel like some people played him, didn't feel like it was for them, and went back to their comfort zone. Which is fine. I think he's good, but has a Nurse-level of skill cap.

He’s a very difficult killer to play. People are realizing that and moving back to what they’re comfortable with.

I’m super curious to see how often he’s played in a month though, that’ll be a lot more telling on how popular he is after the dust settles.

I've been dropping pallets early and wasting PHs time by dodging the wave. Often when they see a dropped pallet they think they can use the wave to hit me. I end up pissing them off until they finally break the pallet then run to another one.

I honestly think it is the same old problem of people failing to learn how to play as something new.

In what gameplay Iv seen so far it feels like most are attempting far too many ranged hits. Out in the open, going for blind guesses, or in loops too easy to juke in. They are also still breaking every pallet they see assuming them to be too safe to leave. For most Killers leaving a pallet on the map is a bad idea. But PH is able to hit Survivors at those pallets and can use them as perfect bait. So leaving several pallets on the map is in fact a good thing.

That's just one thing I noticed. Other points Iv seen are people spending time digging trenches where they don't need to. Or being too hasty with sending people to cages instead of hooking them. That spends time a Killer can't afford and wasting Torment.

This is the same things that happens with anything new. First thing is that several people wont want to pay for DLC. Reducing the odds of seeing a new Killer to start with. The other thing is people either failing or refusing to learn how to play as the new Killer. They stick to what works for OTHER Killers and not what could work for the new Killer. They can't get out of the meta in other words. Reducing odds of seeing new Killers even more when old strats and builds don't work with the new Killer.

Did you miss the part where I said I was in a tight hallway? That's not like being out in the middle of the cornfields. I was not out in the open at all.

If the cages don't dispel torment and the hooks do, that's a bug. It should work the other way around.

I'm saying he's bad because he is. The time he saves getting survivors Tormented is not worth countering hook-related perks. His ranged attack is also just bad, unless they buffed it since the PTB...

Actually it's like that for everything BUT lethal traps.

Trapper is the only trap based Killer that can place his traps directly next to objectives.

I haven't found that many places to dig trenches. A few good choke points in most maps, but you shouldn't be spending time replacing them. Just dig a line if you happen to running by. Stairs leading to a gen, cross a long hallway, at a really good vault, and those likes. Most of the time you aren't going to do this apply torment though. It is force Survivors to slow down. They see a trench, and they start to crouch walk over it or take another path. Either way it is their time spent doing nothing that PH gains.

But it is a good idea to dig trenches mid loops. Say you first reach a loop and the Survivor has enough of a lead to run it 2 times. Just plop a small trail, likely at the pallet, and keep looping it. If they loop there, you apply torment and setup a cage for latter for their struggle phase to save time and avoid 2nd chance perks or instant death . If they run off, you have odds of landing a M1 before they reach another loop. Win win in my book.

Faking a trench is also decent at baiting out Dead Hard or 360s.

As for being unable to place trenches around gens, hooks, or gates. That's there because a trench lasts 90 seconds by default and it would be impossible to use those objects without telling PH you are there. It isn't direct damage. But it is information and extra time. Information in DbD is VERY strong and so is time saved. Knowing where Survivors are is often better than wounding them if that wounding doesn't result in a down/hook.

The hallways on the new maps are not what I consider tight. When I say tight I am talking like doorways, the portions of jungle gyms where you can almost touch both sides running through, etc. Those are where you want to go for guaranteed power hits. Missing it is punishing and it should be.

The cages don't dispel torment so you can literally place a string of torment in front of a cage and he becomes facecamp bubba levels of able to camp. All of that combined with his strong chase ability, time saving potential, easy ability to tunnel mori, and added tracking / zoning from the torment makes him the 3rd best killer in the game in my opinion. Right behind nurse and spirit. And pretty much every rank 1 killer main I have watched play him agrees he is around that kind of level. If you can't see the potential of damaging people straight through walls and ignoring the best survivors perks in the game idk what to tell you.

Arguably that extreme restriction makes his ranged attack fairly pointless, but OK, I concede that there are tighter hallways than the ones on Silent Hill.

I thought you meant that being sent to a cage is what didn't dispel Torment. Torment is the status effect, you're talking about the Rites of Judgement/trenches. If an Executioner wastes time traversing the entire map just to tunnel, that's on him. Rush those gens and make him regret it.

Which Killer Steamers are calling him OP?

Id play other killers but the new wave is an arms race. If I dont practice the new killer skills before the swf and comms players suss out the meta against him I can look foeward to not just being thrashed but bullied and teased when I casully pick him up later due to rank MM.

Agreed. It takes too long to travel

It doesn't go very far. I tried a green and yellow range add on and the distance is nice but it still takes too long for the wave to get to them.

It can easily be dodged since you can see the red rectangle on the ground.

You hear him stick the sword in the ground so you know the attack is coming.

It doesn't inflict torment. I don't see why it can't.

Takes a long time to recover.

Can't one shot anyone like a chainsaw or Oni Charge.

The only good thing about it is it's mind game potential. If someone is running to a window I can toss the wave or I can pretend I will to get them to move then go in for a melee. I've been seeing a lot of PHs try to use the range attack instead of breaking a pallet. That wastes so much time if you don't get a lucky hit. It's better to use this power when 2 people are together, a narrow hallway, or to avoid losing stacks of obsession perks.