Can You BHVR at least make your game playable?
I Even lost the count of how many times killers get nerfed, or his power AND perks got basically thrown of the 5th floor. Play as Killer in this game is the most Terrible and unfortunate thing i can think on this world (at least in a top 5). This game needs killers buff and lots of pallets being removed because its unplayable
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The game is fun and playable IMO and I enjoy playing as killer and survivor (usually, sometimes solo can be a bit cumbersome).
For every past killer nerf there's a present survivor nerf (except nurse, she didn't deserve that). I'm sure I could think of 5 things more unfortuantely that choosing to play killer:
-Dying
-Your family dying
-Being kidnapped
-The world imploding and it being all your fault.
-Becoming a criminal mastermind only to have to hurt your friends because they're trying to save you then you go and apologise to them but they shank you and you and them have an epic long battle that ends when one of you are dead.
-Getting a chronic illness.
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i dont know you, but i have no fear of die
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Not being afraid of death and not seeing how unfortunate loosing you would be are two different things man.
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Are you that huntress that I looped around 2 pallets for 3 gens? Seriously learn how to mindgame and you will laugh at pallets most of the time...
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nope, but my recent matches were ######### terrible too
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At least u cuz even when they are potatos the OWN game gets a hell by itself, pallet hits that came from nowhere, GENRUSHING that is a thing that bhvr dont even have a clue how to deal with (And i think that they arent even trying), also other stuff like the ######### swf that is a fun remover. After a long time playing this game, BHVR seems to care less and less for the killer fun
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Dunno what game you're playing, think you might be on the wrong forum pal because this game is completely playable on both sides :)
Grand, so now you can take the time to get good so you can go against the good survivors!
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Improving??? Dude, in the last what? 5 chapters BHVR just nerfed killer's perks, let trapper reopen traps and now clown dont seems to be a turtle. This game just got on the train to the end, and they took the cosmetics station
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"After a long time playing this game, BHVR seems to care less and less for the killer fun"
I have particular issue with this statement. Killer currently is one of the easiest it's ever been, and they're still getting buffed (insert nurse joke here). BHVR seems to care for the fun of the killers more than ever.
You're telling me that when they cared more when they made pallet stuns with nurse mid-blink still count as proper stuns, or when they removed the timing for pallet and flashlight saves?
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Try to play nurse against a 4 man swf and back in there
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But can you see now days? that BHVR says that if the trapper can reopen a trap is a buff? or that CLown dont get slowed down is a buff? They arent even giving us good perks with new chapters
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Okay annnd survivor perks don't get nerfed? Ever?? Hmmm okay. And killers have such a limited range of good perks and synergies right? Yeah, people just don't complain about a survivor meta all the time. You know why a meta exists? Because there's such a small range of perks for survivors that are consistently viable
Honestly I don't get why youre acting like killers deserve a pity party all the time when stats both from the literal devs of the game and independent players keeping record show that killers in general are performing fine, to the point where any buffs that ARE needed are so minor but will make that difference to bump the very few underperforming killers up
If you think youre on a train to the end fine, feel free to hop right off, it'll run a lot smoother without you :D
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They also nerfed god-loops (rightly) into oblivion, shrunk map sizes, neutered DS (then un-neutered it but not quite to it's old state), buffed Plague massively by letting her use her power (like, I kid you not, that once fountain makes so much difference), got some niche but good perks in the form of Nemesis, Dead Mans Switch (sometimes), Deathbound, got buffs to clown (just ask @DudeDelicious how much that one buff has helped him). They've now given us a killer to bypass a lot of perks in the game and may shake up the meta a bit.
Yeah, I'd say they're doing very well in helping killers.
Let's also not forget the map changes. Those were massive pros for killers.
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Killer main here. The only thing that really needs to be done at this point is to "fix" SWF (i feel they should just buff all survivors by giving them more information for free and then buff killers to compensate) and to make the early game actually exist. The game isn't that far off from being pretty balanced at this point.
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1- The Plague itself is horrible imo, and her perks arent that useful(at least on my play style)
2- What do you mean with "every" killer? did you already saw ghostface, demogorgon(i cant talk a lot about him because i dont have his DLC), Deathslinger and now the executioner? They are pretty bad killers.
3- What do you want to say that maps got better? Do you know how hard is to patrol any gens especially on the New map? Also, totem spots still trash.
4- I dont even consider gens changes an actual nerf since it didnt change anything
5- Doctor didnt got a buff, imo he got nerfed, back in time we could basically do the static blast anytime
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Almost all god-loops stayed, they only removed a few pallets
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Again, and I can't stress this enough with you useless, if you are a good killer, especially with such a strong killer like nurse, you can compete with a 4 man swf
I think you should take some time to realise that 4 man swf = skill
If they're a group of 4 extremely skilled survivors which in itself is so rare then what, do they not deserve any sort of win or survival even though theyre great players? Didn't know the game coded buffs for swf parties, that's how you're acting about it.
If you're insecure about your killer skills that's completely fine, you have all the time in the world to improve and you'll find a lot of support on these forums!!
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So you obviously never played this game.
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Now let me see how many perks got nerfed and how many did at least a bit of difference:
Did Difference: Balanced Landing and Mettle of Man
Didnt changed anything: Empathy, DS that is actually stronger after the "nerf", and of nerfs it was only this
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Even if the SWF are bad they can take your time, and these arent even my words. Also, Nurse is confuse as hell, have a HUGE cooldown and is the easiest killer to loop
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I am here since from Beta and the best thing they ever did was nerf saboteur
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Which god-loops stayed?
-Ironworks was nerfed
-Rancid Abattoir was nerfed
-Storehouse was nerfed
-Coal Tower was nerfed
-Suffocation Pit was nerfed
-Shop was nerfed
-Cowshed was nerfed (but is arguably still very strong)
-Rotten Fields was shrunk (not a god-loop but still)
-Thompson House was nerfed
-Torment Creek was nerfed
-Grim Pantry was nerfed
-Temple was shrunk (drastically)
-Ormond was nerfed
So what remained was Disturbed Ward (due to time constraints), Yamaoka (which doesn't have a god-loop but needs a change), and Haddonfield.
EDIT: Oh, and Mother's Dwelling. Please shrink this map.
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To be honest i didnt even care about half of these, and i am a trapper main so i can just trap some places that can makes it easier, not all the time but yeah
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That doesn't change the fact these maps were nerfed. This change was absolutely huge to most, if not all, M1 killers.
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half of then i cant even see where it got nerfed, half because its hard to get any map, half because some changes are so tiny that makes almost no difference
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The changes are tiny lol? Please tell me you're joking these changes were massive.
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Then would be your game sense on par with a complete newbie. Killer is so damn easy nowadays. Not that it was hard before, but now its basically a walk in the park 99% of the time, while playing survivor is pretty unbearable.
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as i told, i cant confirm it with too much certain since i almost dont get this maps, but also i never had problem with then, all my problems are usually in common loops that when playing with a certain killer this gets driving with the top down
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Survivor is easier than before especially with the Windows fixed, I got rank 1 survivor in like two months without even caring, also playing solo basically all the time. Also, the two most annoying thing that BHVR dont fix by literally no reason are gen positioning, and totem spots, use a Hex is just a waste of a perk slot 99% of the time
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Conveniently ignores all the nerfs to ds before hand, as expected of ya
How about also soul guard and blood pact, very recent nerfs and didn't they actually buff all pyramid head's perks??
OoO nerfed, Any Means Necessary nerfed, BL nerfed, MoM nerfed to the point where it can barely be used in a proper match no less,
Even to base gameplay: map changes = survivor nerf
Multi person gen speeds = survivor nerf
Wiggle progression when survivors are dropped reduced = survivor nerf
Breakable wall speed increase = killer buff
All of these changes happened within the last 4 chapters and I didnt even mention any of the killer power or perk buffs bar PH 🙃
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Lool okay nurse is easily one of the best killers in the game, the thing about playing killer, and I don't know whether you've copped this yet so bare with me, you have to actually PRACTICE with the killer to get good at them :o You're not going to be instantly good :o with any killer straight away :o especially not a high skill high performace killer like nurse :o :o.
And a bad swf will not do better in any significant way at all versus a bad killers than bad solos.
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I literally didn't saw once someone use for any means necessary, OoO still good imo, the multi gen speed didn't made anything and pyramid head perks still trash
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Doesnt matter whether you saw or not, the point is all of these...are strictly survivor nerfs :D
And I do think that something that's coded in the game..makes a difference to the gameplay
Also forgot to mention great skill check nerfs as well
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1- Consider a killer top tier will depends on what are your priorities. In case of nurse I place her on B tier
2- still with nurse thing, how an I supposed to know every single survivor move on maps like cooldwind farm or maps like, lerys, the game map and Hawkins where some of then she can't even teleport sometimes.
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WOW 1% nerf, did you forgot about the ruin nerf that killed half of killers mains of this game? Even I turned in a survivor main
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Emm how about youre not supposed to know where every single survivor is and what theyre doing, killers job is to FIND and kill, do you want the game to play for you or?
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Didn't know that I have a cloning machine to be everywhere in the same time
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With what killer do you want make survivors fear us? With the trapper that now can reopen traps?
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I dunno dude, I think OP has a point. I can't see how any of that is possibly worse than a character getting nerfed in a video game.
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Saying ruin nerf as if it was absolutely useless and couldnt synergise at all
So many killers complained that ruin was completely useless against good survivors because they get greats anyway, now you have a good gen regression perk that does it's job regardless of survivor skill as long as you know hoe to gen pressure. If you can't pressure gens then you really shouldn't even be using it, you have a plethora of great perks at your disposal as killer as it is. Guess you were one of those people who decided they weren't bothered to even try and just keep conplaining about a still meta, still good perk what 5 months afterwards? Half a year almost?
I mean with nurse and her addons and with the smaller maps you kind of already can. But sure you have rancor, bbq, bitter murmur and retribution to show you where everyone is anyway so just use those maybe?
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Eh being kidnapped aint that bad if you're a strong willed person
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BBQ on small maps is trash, also, even with the survivors getting great skill checks, it was useful to now get then the bonus
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If you got kidnapped you got kidnapped, there is nothing you can do
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I mean if a 68 year old woman can survive and escape her kidnapper after he burns her house down, puts her up on a deer skinning device for hours, beats her, does the worst possible things, then come out okay I think anyone else can as long as you have belief, hope, and strength to survive said situation.
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1- What is this grandma? Wonder woman?
2- Ma man here is Brazil, everything gets wrongs pretty fast
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Killers have gotten a ton of buffs recently. I think your definition of "playable" is easy games where you always 4k.
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Idk I’d rather not be forced into human trafficking situations.
also I put in 6 just for good measure lol
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I mean with playable a game that is fair, sometimes survivors don't even needs perks, even I got only bad perks once and escaped at rank 1. The problem is that killers needs to be a war strategist to get a decent game while survivors only need to run a lil bit and throw some wood on us
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Her names Lois Pearson! She endured a lot at the hands of her attacker who bought a property in the countryside solely to enact this torture on her but her strong will, intelligence, and pure mental strength is what kept her going.
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