Stop doing this.
If you're a killer that tries to ruin the game for a survivor just because they're playing as lisa or any other character/ skin... you're trash. You're part of this community's toxicity problem. Someone shouldn't be bullied into not playing a certain character. Seriously though, the toxicity is pushing players away. I've been excited for lisa since she was announced and now there's a bunch of killers trying to ruin my games for playing her. Excuse me for buying one of my favorite video game characters of all time and just trying to have fun. STOP DOING THIS, YOU'RE KILLING THE GAME WITH YOUR TOXICITY.
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based on the bugs lately, I feel BHVR is doing a better job at killing the game than toxic players, let them play how they like
Source- someone who is targeted and killed for playing a gnome in wow
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I feel like we should be able to play how we want.
Also - player count is largely stagnant. Hasn't really gone up or gone down. It's not pushing anyone away. Even more than that, survivors have more bully power than killers could ever hope to in this game.
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We should be able to play however we want huh? Well I should be able to play a character without being targeted because of her. Also yes it is pushing people away. All of my friends have pretty much quit the game not because of the game, but the players.
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I mean, Lisa is also one of the easiest survivors to see on any map. With the bright red and white colors on her. Some people want her dead, but you are running around as a beacon saying "LOOK AT ME IM BRIGHT!!! (but pls dont kill me)". You can literally see her outfit through the cornfield.
Some ARE tunneling her - and part of the reasoning is because of what she represents. BHVR is charging more for this SKIN than they are for 2, full fledged survivors, with full separate perk abilities, names, cosmetic potential and voices...when they couldn't bother to add an actual lobby name and voice to this "legendary skin". A lot of people are actually rebelling against that, because (wait for it) it's a BS money grab and nothing gets BHVR's attention more than killers being dicks to survivors. FACT.
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If they want to rebel, tunneling lisa won't do anything... sorry to say but the dev's don't care about that stuff. I'm specifically talking about people to tunnel only because im lisa, not the colors. What you probably don't understand is that her price is probably part of licensing. Konami wanted to make her really expensive probably because they probably couldn't for cheryl.
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Her price is part of licensing. Which is why you can buy two full on silent hill DLC's for the price of one Lisa. Pyramidhead is far more famous of a character.
Konami isn't in a position to be overcharging for anything these days. They're a dead company that makes mobile games and pachinko machines. They're also the company that in their infinite (lack of) wisdom, fired Hideo Kojima. The guy who kept them afloat in AAA gaming with his games on his back. Silent Hill is a great franchise, but an overall dead one. It's the only reason BHVR was able to get a hold of it.
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Exactly my point. Why blame bvhr? They have no control over it, so the tunneling all lisa's thing is utterly stupid.
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Why do you mention "bully power" when every should be able to play how they want? So it is completely fine for Survivors to ruin the Killers experience (even tho Killers are better at doing so, because a Survivor cannot do that much to a Killer, if they have a thick skin (which most dont have)), because they can play how they want?
And well, regardless whos "bully power" is higher - one side doing Bullshit does not justify the other side doing Bullshit.
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In that case it would be blaming bhvr on the quality of the skin rather than the price itself. A legendary skin I feel should be like an Arcana or Persona from DotA 2. At the very least they could have given her custom audio yknow?
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idc about this lisa thing… they paid for that skin i dont so why would I care😂.
The only time I want to ruin a survivors game is when they want to ruin my fun. Insert jokers voice: GET WHAT YOU FACKING DESERVE!!!!!
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Yeah they're doing it for pretty much no reason.
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I'm a Claudette main- im the last person who wants someone to get tunneled for playing a certain character. I hate the fact that Lisa is overpriced, but am I gonna take it out on people who bought her? No, thats too much on top of the hole in their wallets.
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It is never fun to be the one being tunneled even when I played as a few killers. I’ll admit I tunneled a few different survivors but that was because they were toxic.
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Why? What's with the hate for Lisa?
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Facts.
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Space coconut is going off on my forum post about this cause he supports and Im guessing is taking part in the tunneling and bullying of Lisa players.
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People think she's overpriced. They just don't like very small things about her so they're bullying people into not playing her basically.
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Really? I love his content but that's so scummy.
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Yeah just look in my thread its dumb because I looked up to him too and its like really? Getting punished for liking a character?
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Yeah I completley think it's awful to punish lisa's. I'll look at your thread.
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Who is Lisa exactly? Apart from the hag
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Lisa Garland! One of the main characters of Silent Hill 1
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wow... people are so petty...
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No kidding😂
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I thought his name was Cheryl
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I can't say I've seen killers tunneling Lisa players on PS4 so far. Still, a person shouldn't be specifically targeted because of the skin they're using. I should know, since for whatever reason I get targeted a ton every time I use shirtless David!
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They aren't doing it because of the character. That's the excuse sure, but they're doing it because it's a new character and has only been out for a few days and that mean they're low level and likely don't have all the best perk. That means easy kills
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I've played lisa about 10 times on ps4 and I can safely say I've never been tunneled, camped and moried off of first hook more in my 2 years of playing.
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I'm not talking about that, but it's true. I'm specifically talking about the people that are "protesting".
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Cheryl is the main character and protag of Silent Hill 3 which is who came with the DLC. A legendary skin for Cheryl changes her so you now play as Lisa Garland instead of Cheryl Mason.
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I don't think anyone is actually protesting personally. I think people say they are and use it as an excuse
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I lol every time someone uses the forums as their go-to to cry about something
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Oh ok thanks
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I'm sparing every Lisa I come across.
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You're literally putting words in his mouth just to name and shame him in a separate thread. Take a step back and look at your posts.
No. Not really. Go read the post she's talking about and you'll see that nowhere in there does he say it's a good thing. The closest thing he says to that is that it's an "interesting protest tactic" or something along those lines. He even specifically stated to be clear that he stated that it was interesting and NOT that he supports it. Selective hearing is one thing, but what do you call it when somebody only picks and chooses words when they read? Selective reading?
I hate when people try to act like they dictate what somebody else is thinking. Even worse when they try to bring it into another thread just to name and shame a person.
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I can't believe people are defending the people tunneling Lisa's.
"Just let us play how we want."
That's not a valid reason.
Playing how you want shouldn't be trolling to ruin the game for other people.
There's a difference from seeing someone from far away and intentionally tunneling people playing a certain survivor.
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Lol
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Exactly. Facts.
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You sound like a "I'm holier than thou" type person. I'm just saying that people are literally trying to bully players into quitting a certain character. Did I come on here and boo hoo that I lost, no I didn't. I'm expressing my concerns with the new "trend" with killers.
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It's a SKIN a skin shouldn't have a owl voice or a story dude SKIN NOT CHARACTER
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Don't talk to me I'm holier than you, vile sinner. Conversing with you has left a blot on my soul.
Get behind me Satan!
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thread link?
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You act like survivor's don't so this as well! In the pictures below, this was a swf that bullied me while I was playing PH, and when I asked them in postgame chat why they felt the need to bully me? They said "Because gen rushing is boring and interacting with the killer and making them feel like **** is fun." When I ran into the an hour later and gave them a taste of their own medicine, this was the final product
Message I'm trying to get through to you guys is "If you don't ######### like it or want it done to you, than don't ######### do it"
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I've said the same things about tunnelling, camping and all that other fun stuff that tend to happen in the name of fun. I've even got a full thread saying that the excuse of "I payed money, so I can play how I want" doesn't excuse it.
Unless the devs actually start making them all reportable offences, or severely punished, then certain players are ALWAYS going to do it. The game will continue to be balanced around these too, as they count towards statistics and need perks to counter them. Nothing will change unless there is a drastic measure taken by either the playerbase or the developers.
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Ah and killer mains are the first to complain about teabagging and flashlight clicking and other BM since tunneling based on skins is okay and we should let you all play the way you want its fine if I teabag at every pallet right? You can’t get mad let me play the game I’m entitled to play since i pay 15$ every month to play it + DLC prices
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He's a biased killer main. I've never seen him play survivor at all. I'm not surprised he doesn't understand some of the stuff on the survivors side and only supports killers. No matter the argument.
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Much more like it. Lol
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Just because survivors can do it, doesn't justify someone being toxic and trying to bully someone else. I see a double standard here.
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