Gen times need to be increased

It'll be ok, happy gaming. Chin up.

As a 50\50 killer\survivor for the love of everything unholy please do NOT increase gen times! They are so boring to work on!

However, a way to apply more pressure would be amazing. I don't really have any suggestions other than what people have already offered (second objective, etc).

Oh, just thought of one, what if 1 or 2 of the generators need a part in order to be repaired? Like the part spawns somewhere on the map and the players have to find it and bring it to the generator? Killer would see the aura of the part until it was picked up by a survivor.

So you never accept yourself is potatoes?

Either survivors win because of game favour survivors, or another killer win because survivors were noob. I get that.

if the survivor 99% the gate go do something time on the gate should start going down.

Well, it was a rank 14 killer obviously new to trapper, he commited to the chase far to long. Also maybe he was preparing traps the first minute, but seriously it was very close to getting the guy off the gen in time. Also the killer didnt know how to run some tiles, swung through palletts were it wasnt needed (like the one at the shack).

What should the survs had done? No gens? Especially as trapper its risky without corrupt for example, also he didnt place a single trap in the chase, just let himself loop around the whole map. Was more kind of ######### matchmaking, since the survs were too experienced for that i suppose new player.

That sucks. Maybe limit the use of the red add ons to only one each per game? So one red part, one red light bulb and so on.

Though, i have never seen this happen in any game i played before, not even something close to that.

This is the better way. 10-20 seconds is not even that bad, sometimes you gotta eat the bullet for better game health, killers did it with Ruin, survivors can do it with an extra 10-20 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SCTWCCMzBQ

he does the same without bnp, hes also red rank, and he also wins. All im saying is its stupid you finish a gen in 17 seconds a killer cant kill you within 17 seconds of a match. Also saying im a bad killer just because i disagree with you is just childish.

"you don't balance around outliers"

uh im pretty sure thats how you balance. clown would be an outlier aka his statistics are way different from the rest so they change it to fit the median. Outlier just means something that is vastly higher or lower than the medium. In fighting/moba games if one character has a insane win rate compared to the others they are a outlier and would be nerfed to try and fit the median.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeMPMQ1kAUk

Alright... let me chime in.

Gen speeds are arguably not fine in two different ways.

At the beginning of the game when the Killer spawns in over half the map away and doesn't know where the Survivors are, while the Survivors frequently spawn in next to a gen and next to other survivors... the Gens fly way too fast.

At the end of the game when the Killer has maybe killed somebody, somebody else is on hook, and the Survivors have gotten 3 genned, the Gens take way too long and become borderline impossible to complete.

How do we fix that? Do we fix that? There's a lot of things going on in Dead By Daylight that make it a very snowbally game in both directions. If the Devs were able to heavily nerf both sides ability to snowball... would that be the right thing to do? I honestly don't know. I personally would prefer a less snowbally game, but I don't know if the general player base wants that.

repairing gens is a snooze fest, I rather prefer them working on balancing the maps.

A Billy with a Mori could kill someone in 30 seconds. All it would take is a lucky chainsaw and an idiot teammate. Should we nerf his saw to ensure that's impossible? Probably not. Because it's an unlikely, extremely rare event. That's my point. Buffing or nerfing a character that has a consistent issue makes sense. A 3 BnP 17 second gen is not remotely a consistent issue.

not 17s though

Is that really the hill you want to die on? Besides I could argue that in my scenario Billy finshed a quarter of his objective. So that makes them comparable.

I never argued the early game doesn't often go too fast. I actually had my own suggestion sometime back on how to help with it. My only response to this thread has been about the Otz video.

I think it's mainly the disparity between repair times.

It's really strange that one survivor takes a little over 80 seconds to do a gen start to finish with no perks or items, but two survivors with no perks or items almost split that time in half at 47 seconds.

Ok, but you seemed to have quit your whine complain and insult combination. Or perhaps you just found someone else to insult to make yourself feel better. So entitled you are.

Now you can add misgendering to your list. Lighten up a bit. No need to get so hateful with everyone. Quit insulting people it only makes you look bad.

I'd much rather have other objectives to spice up the gameplay. Sitting on gens is already boring as it is.