If you Tunnel, you suck, if you use DS, you suck (not sucking at the game, but it's just sad),
Honestly. If you need to depend on both of these so called "techniques" to win a game, you aren't a good killer and you aren't giving both sides a good game, instead a boring and enraging game. You don't suck at the game but you suck individually in the game, if you feel like you have to do so. Why DS? The killers are doing their objective, and they can't do much about it. No I'm not a killer main and no do I use DS.
I use Plunderers Instinct, Balance Landing, SC and Ace in the hole. Let me say, you can do this if you want, but it is incredibly annoying, and you should maybe think in the survivors shoes and also the killers.
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I play both sides and I won't say people suck for tunneling or using DS. Sometimes tunneling happens by chance. The killer happened to find you again. Or they might have a perk, like Dying Light, that makes you more of a target. Or they're playing tactically to get rid of one person as fast as possible. Why would they go for a different survivor if going after you is smarter? As for DS, it's another tool at the survivor's disposal. I consider it too OP, but that isn't the survivor's fault. In my opinion, saying somebody sucks for using the tools given to them or playing smart is going overboard.
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I think you need to lower your sodium intake.
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I love when they use ds before hook one save it for hook 2-3 its hilarious when they do that and get downed again0
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@ShrimpTwiggs said:
I play both sides and I won't say people suck for tunneling or using DS. Sometimes tunneling happens by chance. The killer happened to find you again. Or they might have a perk, like Dying Light, that makes you more of a target. Or they're playing tactically to get rid of one person as fast as possible. Why would they go for a different survivor if going after you is smarter? As for DS, it's another tool at the survivor's disposal. I consider it too OP, but that isn't the survivor's fault. In my opinion, saying somebody sucks for using the tools given to them or playing smart is going overboard.Half of the time, they are just not camping but looking behind them at a distance, which let's them tunnel. They don't suck at the game for it, remember what I said? I say they suck that they do it and that it's used over and over again and it ruins the fun for people.
@Zagrid said:
I think you need to lower your sodium intake.Haha, funny. Nah, lol.
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Also is it tunneling when people swam a hook and you take down the wounded one that unhooked because they rushed a save0
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Neither tunneling or DS make me mad as surv or killer. Tunneling is a tactic, a smart one often, and IMO the survs responsibility to stop/prevent. both as surv and killer ive seen someone pull someone off the hook while killers close OR watched as one pulls off the hook and then crouch walks away while the unhooked sprints. When killer gets there he sees tracks and... well follows them to find the same person that was already hooked. Happens all the time. I chase before even realizing im going after the same person.
Only times the above is okay is if the savior has borrowed time for the unhooked.
And yeah sometimes you just find the same person again and that sucks for them... but i mean what're you supposed to do? pretend you didnt see em and saunter on off?
That'd be stupid especially on some of the weaker killers who cant down from full healed state. as a hillbilly or chainsaw, tunneling is rarely warrented or needed cause you can insta down others, but for two hit killers weakest link is the best way to take down the survs.As a killer Im always very impressed when a surv body blocks for the person they took of the hook, and even more so if after they get away from me as i turn towards them with a dead hard. (sprint burst is just as effective but well not impressed cause takes no skill) and... as weird as this sounds i reward them by going after them instead of their friend (even tho the with the burst of speed from being injured normally means the friend is actually still closer and easier to catch after the hit recovery)
And DS? Yeah its annoying adding a little bit more to a chase, especially if someones looping and T-bagging, but you know what? they sacrificed some other skill to gain the extra time for their team it provides and in the end it doesnt bother me too much.
Only time DS is annoying is if I find out all 4 survs have it. If thats ever the case then yes... I tunnel the next one I find HARD. because at that point so much time has passed you have to take someone out or its a guaranteed lose if you arent one of the big 3 killers.
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Also... can you save DS? I thought it had to be used the first time you get grabbed?
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@vendalwind said:
Also... can you save DS? I thought it had to be used the first time you get grabbed?The skill check still shows up when you are picked up, but if you do not attempt the skill check, and let the meter go full circle, it will save it for the next time you are picked up, since you did not use it. DS becomes inactive when the skill check is attempted, whether inside the success zone or after. When I had DS to level up Laurie, I always saved it for the final hook.
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I play both sides and accept both tunneling and looping as part of the game.
But I'm old and grew up before teachers starting passing out participation ribbons to all the kids for "having a fun game". I expect my opponent to do everything in their power to destroy me.
No quarter asked, none given.
Frankly, all these silly rules need to be tossed in the rubbish heap with all those participation trophies.
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Are you on ps4 id love to add you and game against you no quarter given so I can play against a competent and good playerFrenziedRoach said:I play both sides and accept both tunneling and looping as part of the game.
But I'm old and grew up before teachers starting passing out participation ribbons to all the kids for "having a fun game". I expect my opponent to do everything in their power to destroy me.
No quarter asked, none given.
Frankly, all these silly rules need to be tossed in the rubbish heap with all those participation trophies.
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@CoolAKn Thanks for this info! if I ever get the perk I'll probably save it for the final hook too.
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If you find a generator that's been partially repaired, do you try to fix that one or do you try to find one that's at 0%? If you couldn't find one at 0%, would you then go for the generator that will take the longest amount of time to repair? "Tunneling" is just plain common sense - you go for the weakest link.
DS, while annoying, is still a perk. It rewards Survivors for failure, making it a crutch perk like their entire stale meta, but it's a perk, it's there to be used. Don't chastise bad Survivors for needing crutch perks; we all need crutches when we're bad at the game.
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@HeyItsNick123andnea said:
@ShrimpTwiggs said:
I play both sides and I won't say people suck for tunneling or using DS. Sometimes tunneling happens by chance. The killer happened to find you again. Or they might have a perk, like Dying Light, that makes you more of a target. Or they're playing tactically to get rid of one person as fast as possible. Why would they go for a different survivor if going after you is smarter? As for DS, it's another tool at the survivor's disposal. I consider it too OP, but that isn't the survivor's fault. In my opinion, saying somebody sucks for using the tools given to them or playing smart is going overboard.Half of the time, they are just not camping but looking behind them at a distance, which let's them tunnel. They don't suck at the game for it, remember what I said? I say they suck that they do it and that it's used over and over again and it ruins the fun for people.
@Zagrid said:
I think you need to lower your sodium intake.Haha, funny. Nah, lol.
@HeyItsNick123andnea said:
@ShrimpTwiggs said:
I play both sides and I won't say people suck for tunneling or using DS. Sometimes tunneling happens by chance. The killer happened to find you again. Or they might have a perk, like Dying Light, that makes you more of a target. Or they're playing tactically to get rid of one person as fast as possible. Why would they go for a different survivor if going after you is smarter? As for DS, it's another tool at the survivor's disposal. I consider it too OP, but that isn't the survivor's fault. In my opinion, saying somebody sucks for using the tools given to them or playing smart is going overboard.Half of the time, they are just not camping but looking behind them at a distance, which let's them tunnel. They don't suck at the game for it, remember what I said? I say they suck that they do it and that it's used over and over again and it ruins the fun for people.
I know what you said and I still disagree. They still don't suck as people for playing tactically. Isn't it ruining their fun if they're insulted for playing smart and pressured to go easy on their opponent? It's kind of a non-argument since saying something is 'unfun' can be applied to many things. Being camped isn't fun, having your totem destroyed at the beginning of a match isn't fun, getting blinded isn't fun. Does the other side suck because they're ruining my fun? Unless they're going out of their way to spite me, then no. A lot of it is me needing to get better at the game or imbalance, which isn't the player's fault.
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What about basement hooking and checking to see if people go for a save and locker checking is that camping or just making sure l0
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I like your approachNo quarter asked, none given.
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@HeyItsNick123andnea said:
No I'm not a killer main and no do I use DS.Then who are you to tell a killer main he sucks for tunneling? I bet you're the same guy who unhooks a survivor right in front of a killer then QQs about "tunneling" at the end of the game.
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Same never give a chance just kill erm allGeorge_Soros said:
I like your approachNo quarter asked, none given.
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The only time a killer is courteous or lenient in a horror movie is when some sicker more Twisted plan is to be later set in motion. You say a killer sucks because they're using two of the most recommended strategies by the devs, that's how they designed it and most perks encourage. Telling people good game for a strong strategy but they suck as an individual because they used it is a sad and pointless position to take. And while there are situations where tunneling can't be avoided, if you keep getting found after escaping the hook you're probably not hiding right( when killer doesn't have eyes on you during the save)0
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@FrenziedRoach said:
I play both sides and accept both tunneling and looping as part of the game.But I'm old and grew up before teachers starting passing out participation ribbons to all the kids for "having a fun game". I expect my opponent to do everything in their power to destroy me.
No quarter asked, none given.
Frankly, all these silly rules need to be tossed in the rubbish heap with all those participation trophies.
I'm with you Roach. Throw out all the stupid made up rules and play the game. It is, after all, a competitive game.
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No one uses the proper definition of tunneling whenever I talk to them.
So what is your definition?
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@Swiftblade131 said:
No one uses the proper definition of tunneling whenever I talk to them.So what is your definition?
- Apologies, I have a tendency to word vomit. I hope this makes sense.
In the context of the game, I see tunneling as focusing on one person in the current scenario. As many people have pointed out, in most instances, going after the survivor that was just unhooked is the logical decision, even though it sucks for the person being tunneled. Most of the killer obsession perks encourage tunneling depending on the perk used (either tunneling the obsession or leaving them alone). Tunneling is situational, so in these instances, tunneling is not the same as griefing (though a lot of people may see it as one in the same). Griefing would be targeting a player (whether killer of survivor) for the purpose of ruining their experience (extra-malicious intent). Griefing is toxic, but hard to prove, whereas tunneling is not toxic behavior.
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@HeyItsNick123andnea said:
Honestly. If you need to depend on both of these so called "techniques" to win a game, you aren't a good killer and you aren't giving both sides a good game, instead a boring and enraging game. You don't suck at the game but you suck individually in the game, if you feel like you have to do so. Why DS? The killers are doing their objective, and they can't do much about it. No I'm not a killer main and no do I use DS.I use Plunderers Instinct, Balance Landing, SC and Ace in the hole. Let me say, you can do this if you want, but it is incredibly annoying, and you should maybe think in the survivors shoes and also the killers.
I may not like people who use particular perks or who implement specific tactics but they are in the game and they are trying to win. Like it or not I'll deal with it like an adult and move on.
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Tunneling can happen deliberately or accidentally. It depends on the game pace, how my mood is and what kind of survivors I face.
Accidentally example: a survivor who was on his last hook and injured, crossed my path 3 times while I searched for the MYC exposed survivor. Couldn't find that survivor, so I took the injured one.0 -
Tsulan said:Tunneling can happen deliberately or accidentally. It depends on the game pace, how my mood is and what kind of survivors I face.
Accidentally example: a survivor who was on his last hook and injured, crossed my path 3 times while I searched for the MYC exposed survivor. Couldn't find that survivor, so I took the injured one.
or in my case tea bagging going out there way to hit with pallet's even springing round a corner and ledge just to do it or repeated flishlighting
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In other words be a dick and be tunnel camped
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@redsopine1 said:
In other words be a dick and be tunnel campedStunning is NEVER a dick move. Flashlighting is only bad if it’s repeadtly spam clicking it just to bother you. Blinding at pallets or saving people obviously has its strategic uses
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Oh them i dont mind i mean deliberately giving away your location multiple times just to pallet me or flash lighting me just because you could (if i got a survivor of if there behind a pallet i dont mind there saving a teammate and escaping that is fine) but following me around to flashlight me for fun i wont stand for
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@redsopine1 said:
Oh them i dont mind i mean deliberately giving away your location multiple times just to pallet me or flash lighting me just because you could (if i got a survivor of if there behind a pallet i dont mind there saving a teammate and escaping that is fine) but following me around to flashlight me for fun i wont stand forThis isn’t s dick move, but gives me a FREAKIN HARD ATTACK: just walking along, chasing no one, only to get your soul crushed by a jump scare pallet. Or getting jump scared cuz a Dwight trying to chill with your hatchets
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Ok we might not agree on the pallets but damn I love grabbing survivors from lockers like duh I'm right hereJack11803 said:@redsopine1 said:
Oh them i dont mind i mean deliberately giving away your location multiple times just to pallet me or flash lighting me just because you could (if i got a survivor of if there behind a pallet i dont mind there saving a teammate and escaping that is fine) but following me around to flashlight me for fun i wont stand forThis isn’t s dick move, but gives me a FREAKIN HARD ATTACK: just walking along, chasing no one, only to get your soul crushed by a jump scare pallet. Or getting jump scared cuz a Dwight trying to chill with your hatchets
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@iceman2kx said:
@HeyItsNick123andnea said:
No I'm not a killer main and no do I use DS.Then who are you to tell a killer main he sucks for tunneling? I bet you're the same guy who unhooks a survivor right in front of a killer then QQs about "tunneling" at the end of the game.
No, not at all. Nice assuming though! I usually Gen rush by myself and once I finish I try to head out to get the guy that is on the hook. If the beat is there, I give up and I go another time. Tunneling is fine late game, but if it's going to be at the start, you are ruining the fun.
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