My opinion why Killer crowns are easy to get.
Remember that event. I think with those flowers. Where you had to fill up vials to unlock an outfit? There was a maximum to how much both survivours and killers could get. So once the survivors maxed out there side, they moved over to Killer. 80% of the players. So no matches could start. So then the devs changed it to one side(survivours or killers) could get enough vials on their own without switching? (I think I'm remembering all this correctly.)
I was thinking that maybe the devs were worried this would happen again. So, they made it easy for survivour-main players to go in and get some crown without cloging up the system trying to play the same Killers over and over trying to get some impossible acheivement(like kill all players). So all they have to do it FIND the crown and can easily do that the 1st time they try.
I dont know. What do you guys think?
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I dont know for sure, but I think that is definitely a well thought out possibility. Makes total sense.
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Its possible and I'm sure it was considered and one of the reasons.
One of the other reasons was probably so survivor's like the vial scenario did not just suicide on the hook after getting the crown.
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I am pretty sure that is the reason. However I counter with this argument.
Why not make it a BP requirement instead, because than both sides have to earn it on the same grounds.
For example, It could have worked with this condition. After collecting the crown you must finish the match with at least 15k BP. Which means most survivors have to play the match, because I've made it to end of matches with less than 15k if it wasn't for my escape. But most of the time I do make over 15k BP. However me not escaping doesn't stop me from earning the crown if I die with 16k BP.
This also means you can't do what I did with Nurse, which was enter the match grab the crown and chase people around without blinking for 4 minutes. Match ends and I got a crown. with like 7k BP or something stupid.
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If you didn't kill anyone any of them that grabbed a crown also would have gotten it. So I really don't see why this is a big deal. If the Killer decides to fool around after getting the crown they are pretty much guaranteeing most/all survivors will escape.
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Thats because that is how I played nurse, because I hate playing her. However if I play a killer for a real match, I get the crown for existing, they get the crown if they escape. That isn't quite equal terms. I get the crown no matter how well or bad I played. They have to play well to get the crown.
I am not saying my solution is perfect, I am just saying it puts both sides earning the crown, not one side given it for existing and the other earning it is all.
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Because if the killers had to do something, like killing the obsession or 1 survivor that took the crown... it would turn into a very toxic gameplay experience. Because killer would wanna make sure they get the crown.
Making it so it's easy for killers to get the crown, means that they can chill and play normally. No need to bring ebony and use it asap, or hard camp that 1 guy.
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Which I way I suggest it being based on BP, I even think the requirement of being 15k BP is pretty easy to obtain each match. I do not think the killer requirement should be kills. I think that is bad. I also understand why they added the "Escape" requirement to survivors, because otherwise games would be filled with one hook deaths.
Setting a minimum requirement for BP is what I think is probably the fairest balance they are ever going to get.
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All Killer needs to do is show up, bam crown done.
Survivor needs to work their ass off to MAYBE get crown. if they're lucky and everything goes their way.
Favouritism much? lmao
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At least Killers have a choice to decide they will go farm with survivors or not.
Thanks to Devs, just image they want its harder to get crown as Killers. They could make Killers get 4K to have crown. Then good luck to survivors seeing Mori every single match.
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This would totally happen. I know I'd be guilty of doing it with killers that I hate playing.
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Wait... It's easier for killer this rn. This means people complete the killer side faster than the survivor side. This means we will end up with many players who want to play survivor for the cosmetics over and over again and players who don't want to play killer because they have everything already. Right?
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My guess is that people play a larger variety of killers than survivors. I only play Kate and sometimes Feng/David while I play 10+ killers and switch between fairly regularly.
To get the crown by escaping 2-3 times for your favorite survivors would be a lot quicker than getting a 4k for your 10+ killers each.
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I just don't know why these guys can't come up with an event that is fair to both sides. It's really not been fun at all.
Killer is almost too chill. Survivor is crazy difficult. I have 3 crowns in a about 25 games. Bear in mind I'm playing mostly solo, but c'mon.
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A lot harder than "just start up the match and grab a crown then you might as well AFK".
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Points completely flying over your head. The point is that the Killer can very well just AFK and get the crown while the Survivors still have to work, essentially having to win, for the crowns.
Not to mention the fact that all the Killers are suddenly sweat mode now with the event going on.
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i try 10 matchas survivor and killers going out of they way make sure you don't make it out with a crown.
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This event is going just as poorly if not worse. Survivors still suicide on hook just like they usually do if they get downed early. BP offerings are broken.
I only have a good time playing killer. Playing survivor and getting stuck with low rank dweebs and sweat bag killers isn't really enthralling.
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Killer:
Step 1 - FInd crown
Step 2 - Afk
Step 3 - Profit
Survivor:
Step 1 - Find crown
Step 2 through 100 - Do all gens, save your team mates to help do gens, open exit gate, evade killer and all manor of nuanced steps in between to acheive that
Step ? - Profit, maybe if your lucky.
Hmmm
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How ######### dense are you? Are you even reading the ######### posts?
Killers aren't sweatin for crowns. Killers are sweatin their asses off to deny crowns.
I got all Killer crowns on the first day. I barely broke a sweat. Went into every game, grabbed a crown, and then ######### around with the survivors. Literally 1 match for each killer.
For survivors, I have about 6 crowns but I'm ######### having to deal with Killers tunnelling and mori'ing their asses off at rank 1. It's a ######### shitshow. It's just game after game of survivors DCing and suiciding and Killers denying crowns.
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i think what he saying killers got they crown work for it or not with afk now going sweat mode keep survivor from getting it at all cost.that how my match been.
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i say give it to us but we have to survivor X amount of time with crown.
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Once again the points are all just flying over your head.
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they change it so killer have to do something to get crown but at this point it to late most killer got they crowns.
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I think the event would've been better if they'd put in a "safety net" for survivors trying to get crowns. So, just by playing, you can earn pieces of the crown. Die or escape without a crown? 1/10. Die with a crown? 1/5. Escape with a crown? Boom, you get the crown, done. That way, when someone keeps trying and failing in seriously unfun matches, at least they know that they are slowly working towards getting the crown and their efforts so far haven't been for naught.
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I main Killer. Hence why I grabbed all the killer crowns first. I pretty much just play Yui on survivor but I like to collect ######### so I'm grabbing all the crowns I can.
Here's the rundown of the points.
Your first point was that urban evasioning and holding M1 to do gens was just as easy as the Killers getting out with a crown.
My points are that doing the gens and getting out is infinitely harder than killers just existing and grabbing a crown.
Nothing you've said backs up your original point.
Let that sink into your mind and process a bit.
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Here's where you're not getting it.
I'm not saying Killers are afking for crowns. I'm saying they CAN literally AFK to get their crowns.
So look back to the original point. Getting crown as Surv(urbaning and M1ing as you put it) is much more difficult than getting the crown as Killer(Just grabbing the crown...).
Killers don't NEED to sweat their asses off to get the crown. Killers sweating has nothing at all to do with getting crowns for themselves. Killers are sweating their asses off to deny the survivors getting crowns.
The AFK point is to show how ######### easy it is to get the crown as a Killer as compared to a Survivor(your original point of getting crowns...)
You gotta work on your ######### reading comprehension.
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There's no denying Killer crowns are cakewalk.
Survivors glowing make them so easy to spot. Even when you run the glow fans out like a comet. There are many Killers tunneling these characters because A. They are easy to see. B. Killers don't want you leaving with the crown specifically. It is harder to get a crown as survivor cause first.you have to be able to even find a crown. If you find it too soon you will be a target the whole match. If you look too late you may not find it in time. Also hunting for it may have taken just enough time to keep you from winning. Also you must escape! It's way hard to do as a survivour . I have all the survivor crowns, but half were just given to me cause the killer became a pal of the team.
So there are super sweaty Killers that specifically will deny the crown cause they want you to have a bad day. But just as many that will throw their game for you. Also there are Killers that play normal.cause event doesn't mean anything to them.
Killer on the other hand cannot be stopped by survivors in any way in getting the crown. If you just want the crown and don't care about the game. It will be yours then and there.
Dont.deny the toughness of survivors getting theirs. Especially if you want them all. Considering amount of time you can play and other reasons. Survivors aren't guaranteed a crown just for joining a match.
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Dude. You're just way off base because you clearly prefer killer over survivor. This event is an embarrassment. They should rework it asap.
Your take of "survivors would just suicide" is one of the dumbest things I've read here in a while. But maybe it's because I actually play survivor so I know that survivors kill themself on first hook right now.
There is a lot of good with this game or else we wouldn't be playing it, but it really is baffling that these guys can't get an event right.
But good for you that you get to ridicule survivors about it though.
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Also, ######### are these nice killers at? I keep hearing about them, but I'm not seeing them.
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Do you play in Switch? Tons of them there.
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Red rank on pc, they are non existent. I only see sweaty killers with mori tunneling the guy with the crown.
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It's actually pretty tough, it took me 4 games to find one crown, even tho I'm crown-hunting, I won't give up on my game, I'll still try to 4k.
Keeping them as killer is easy, finding them is a bit harder xd
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In short
Killer and Survivor are 2 different Gameplays. As Survivor you have the possibilities to go out your way and go for special challenges but as a Killer it should be sth that fits your gameplay.
Killer have to do many things, time management, remembering things, end chases quickly, making efficient decisions fast. And Dbd in it's core is supposed to let some survivors escape. And saying "Kill all to get the crown" isn't even possible everytime and would also create this little thing were people starts running Moris and spam the most op stuff in the game.
So for the overall health of the game it is what it is now and it's good. And not unfair.
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There's your problem. Farmer killers are in low to mid ranks. Had a doc and huntress farm but most killers play normally or intend to troll would be crowned survivors.
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im just gonna assume the devs wanted the event to be super laid back, and thats why the crown is so easy to get
also, im gonna guess that the reason survivors have to escape for a crown is because it makes it so the survivors cant kill themselves on first hook simply because they grabbed their crown really fast
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Dude, its crappy looking halo over a head, i have it over one survivor, i dont care, i will never use it, it is usless and bad looking... i cant even call it a skin. Damn, even T-Short with "4th Anniversary And All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt" would be better. :/ You are overthinking it.
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The problem with the pustula event was that survivors were not able to harvest plants anymmore, therefore not getting the bonus BP (which was like 3000 or 4000 I think) and killers still got their bonus BP because they got their serum by hooking, that was the main reason for so many players switching roles.
And I can't remember why they changed it, but you had to unlock like 30 phiooles from either side and they changed it to be 60 in total, no matter which role you play. But that did not fix the "maxxed out" problem for survivors and the queue problems still persisted for the event. So there is not really an explanation why getting crowns should be easier for killers, as it is not about bonus BP and you have to play every single character on both sides to get everything unlocked. There is not really any reason to favour any role in this event.
I would say this is total bulls. Killers are not sweating to deny crowns. Killer gameplay is in my experience completely identical, I have not even seen Moris so far, which is normally about every 5th game. Just because you died with a crown is not an indicator that it happened BECAUSE of the crown.
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I also think that you exxagerate just to give your points more value. I mean, I don't know how your survival rate is in general, but the requirement in general is just to play the game. Searching for crowns doesn't make sense because they are completely random spawning and switch places. Just play the game and stumble across one once in a while. My experience so far is that I'd rather die with a crown than escape without a crown, and I'm not searching for them, I collect it when I see it.
I had just once a bad time with Meg, needing like 10 games to get the crown, on 5 other survivors I needed at most 3 attempts. My overall survival rate is roughly guessed 40-50%. So "infinitely harder" or "hard working for it" are definitely statements I would not confirm
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Because people are still killing themselves right now rather frequently.
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