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Whats the point in playing by survivor rules.
Whenever i play killer i try not to tunnel people or camp but every time i let them go Its just a no pressure genrush and the game is over.
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Learn to play killer properly. Issue solved. I dont understand why so many killer players dont want to learn how to play properly and instead just ruin other players experience. Its not that hard.
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You can play like that in rank 19-20 but after that the matchmaking system kicks in and you're going to be in a world of hurt trying to play nice with red through green rank players.
You're better off playing for your own enjoyment, not theirs. It also helps to make your account private to avoid the hate mail.
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Try it yourself then. Play by the rules you made for killer yourself. Let's see how you perform.
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First, ignore the survivor rules. Your job is to kill survivors and as survivor our job is to avoid dying. Anyone who needs more rules to make sure their feelings aren't hurt isn't playing a horror survival game.
Second, tunneling becomes pretty useless once the Borrowed Time, Bottled Time, DS etc start to come out. There's nothing wrong with the low hanging fruit but don't be afraid to slug to try and gain some gen pressure.
As I see it a killer's job is to make it so survivors have to do anything else other than gens. Healing, pig hats, mending, running, being slugged or hooked are all tools and a hooking/slugging takes up two survivors time. All around a win.
Good luck my dude, killer is stressful af.
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What's the point?
You get DS'ed, then complain about it. Then start making threads calling for the nerf of DS because you couldn't get an easy kill.
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I already told that as a Trapper Main i dont have any issues at all against red ranks. Those 10% games i do not get a 3/4k are totally fine for me. It is not that hard, if even some part-time killer like me can get to rank 1 by just playing a few games each season.
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Thats exactly why survivors made up a bunch of playground, fictional rules. To benefit them. And if you dont follow their childish rules they call you trash. I call it winning. Its a competetive game. I do whatever I want. I play to win. They can call it tunneling or whatever, I call it counting and paying attention. As far as camping, it works way more often than it should. If i see survivors all sneaking around by the hook Im not going far, just far enough that they think its safe. If i dont see anyone Ill leave, some killers I stay on the move. But screw anyone who cries that its no fun. Too bad. How many people spend money on video games so that their opponent can have fun? Zero. Anything outside cheating or hacking is fair game.
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You play by survivor rules? Lol
In all seriousness, play however you want. It's not about what's nice, it's about what gets you the W.
With that being said, tunneling and camping aren't effective strategies once the survivors know what you're up to/ are loaded out to deal with that, and they adjust accordingly.
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I don't care about survivor rules, and I don't camp or tunnel, I see a survivor, I chase him.
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Then why don't ask for more? Play perkless and add-onless trapper since you're so good in this game. Or go even further, leatherface. And remember your rules.
Even Otzdarva, a full time trapper main, need to sweat in some games. If you're killer that's even better, why don't make a living out of it by streaming? It's a good fortune :)
Edit: Oh i forgot you complained about slugging as well! Why don't you stream and make the title "best killer in the world, 3/4k 90% of the time, while following survivor rule books, and no slugging at all!"
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If you play both sides you'll know how ######### it is to get tunneled or camped.
Because of my survivor experiences, I feel pretty guilty when I off someone extremely early. I try to avoid camp/tunnel, but I don't go too crazy with following the survivor rulebook.
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Properly? I dont see anything in the rules about camping, tunneling, slugging or face camping. Nothing. Because its allowed. Survivors just dont like it. By ruining your experience you mean by beating you? Get over it. You cant win them all. Its already 4 vs 1. Then you try to make up stupid rules that dont exist? LOL I really have fun against players like you. What makes you think you have the right to tell other people how to play? Do you tell other players in a shooter that they cant shoot you in the head? I doubt it. I spend alot of money on games, and in games. I'll be damned if someone else is gonna tell me how to play them. Learn how to take a loss properly. Instead of making up rules that increase your odds of winning. I dont turn on my ps4 so someone else can have a fun experience. I play for My fun, not yours.
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Just so that the game is fair for everyone. All survivors really ask for killer is for them to just not tunnel and camp. At least I ask for that...
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Did you quote the wrong comment?
In case you didn't, let me tell you. I'm killer that plays fairly, meaning no camping and tunnelling. I aim to get 12 hooks every game.However, sometimes camping and tunnelling is not camping and tunnelling.
For instance, some survivors jump on a gen right after being unhooked. You can't blame me for smacking, slugging or hooking you again because i can't just stand there watching you doing your objective. IMO these instance are extremely fair to both side. You decide to be greedy, so you can't blame me for it. But usually survivors can get away from their greed because of 2nd chance perks... what can i do..?
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'Play properly,' as in, play by your rules. No thank you.
OP, play as you see fit. As a killer, your objective is to kill. Do that as you see fit, and when survivors throw a tantrum over you not 'playing properly,' you know you're doing your job well.
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Its already 4 vs 1. It is fair. It is not against the rules. Survivors just cant handle losing. Ive been on that hook. Nose to nose with a killer in less than 60 seconds. It sucks. LOL. But the definition of fair is "In accordance with the rules or standards, legitimate." Look it up. So until the people that made the game & run the show say otherwise, it IS fair.
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DS is mostly fine as it is what im trying to say is I try not to down survivors that just got unhooked and i try not to stay near the hook even when someone is nearby. Its not fun being downed right as you get unhooked as survivor or having someone loop the killer in font of you while your hooked, but when you try to make the game fun for you and the opposite team they see that and rush the gens because by not slugging or looping someone around a hook when you can you essentially forfeit the extra pressure
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none. A killer can't win 12 chases, you have to camp or tunnel at key moments, if you play how survivors want (chase, hook, chase other survivor saw with bbq, repeat...) you will hardly 4k, unless you're facing a bad team.
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It seems like you go too far out of you way to make the game fun for survivors. Most of them don't care nor appreciate your efforts. So why continue to make the game unfun for yourself?
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There's a difference between "playing by the rules" as so many other killers put it, and understanding the survivor situation, playing towards the emblem system because the HUNT is better than the kill, getting more emblems because this playstyle is what the emblem system wants, playing killers and tactics to support this and slow down the game in other ways and doing well without infuriating everyone else.
There are no "Rules" from survivors. It is simply them saying "Can you NOT prevent me from playing the video game, please and thank you?"
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There isn't a point. You'll just make some people made if you really camp/tunnel. Not a big deal though since doing either for real is a terrible strat.
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A lion doesnt concern itself with the opinions of sheep
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What is playing killer "properly"? Like there's a rule book? Please link me the rules of playing killer because I'm very inexperienced.
Imagine me playing a video game just so I can be a people pleaser and let others have fun, while I lose. Camper and tunneler for life, as long as it works in my favor.
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if they don't respect you, don't respect them. It's that easy.
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Skip to about 1:30.
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They WERE playing. Until they got caught.
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Play for you not for the other if you have fun campong do it and if you want to play with the survivor rule book do it in my opinion as a killer only 2 map let you play with the survivor rule book and its the game and hawkin all the other are survivor side in my opinion
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This right here. If you only play killer you'll never understand survivors. And if you only player survivor you'll never understand killers. It's simply trying to allow everyone a chance to enjoy a match.
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So, do you have anything to contrubute?
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You know I'm a pretty good killer, a way better killer than survivor actually, but i survive nearly every game, the games i don't are normally when im getting tunneled or even more common lately, moried. So as a mediocre, lets even say above average survivor, I will probably escape if you play by da rulez.
But I get it all the killers are just bad, they need to learn to get better and get a PhD in killing survivors but again...im not really that great ay survivor. I don't even really put too much effort in most of the time.
I just think its kind of funny that in this partisan war a lot of "survivor mains" (aka people who play half the game) will tell killers to play by Da Rulez and spend a few 100 hours learning the ins and out of killer while they play in SFW all meta perks. I honestly attribute a ton of my success to spinechill and DH alone. As killer there's no perks that i feel carry me and it took me wayyy longer to git gud at killer than it did with survivor.
Not trying to come at you just food for thought.
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Maybe you should read a little more before you criticise. I posted three times before that one. Youre qualified to work at CNN
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There is absolutely no reason play by any made up house rules. You will be punished for it everytime. Just play the game and let the salties salt. You can decide on your level of oppressiveness or obnoxiousness or benevolence and tweak your game to suit.
Does the situation favour a tunnel to regain pressure, or bit of an egc/basement camp to get a kill then feel free to do it. There are counters to this and if survivors play them well they will counter you.
You want to give the hatch or deny the hatch that's in your power, again you decide. Play a few light matches and take it easy then break out your power build for a snowballing facestomp its up to you.
Players will do everything in their power to tilt you and make you lose, flashlight clicking, butt dancing its all part of the game (It's too obnoxious for me but hey you do you if you like). You have the option to do that too... any post game salt is irrelevant.
Don't feel bad for playing the game. I'm not saying you should be as obnoxious as possible, or grief people etc etc I just want folks to remember that you are not responsible for anyone else's fun. Play the killer how you want to play it, you'll either make friends or lose friends or a bit of both.
Remember bragging in end game chat is just a sad as having a sore loser meltdown, don't be that person everyone dislikes that person. Above all else be humble in your wins and composed in your losses.
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Your not You're.
There is no such thing as CNN where I live.
And I meant in relation to MY STATEMENT. I cannot believe that I have to specify that.
What I did was also not criticism. I was dismissing you in a similar manner to how you blew off part of my argument with actually offering anything in terms of a counter-argument and what little you provided can be described as a matter of viewpoint, rather than a counter-point. You mention me in a comment, you are talking in relation to what I HAVE POSTED. If you had simply stated "I said [topic in relation] in an earlier post", then sure I would have gone back and checked, maybe even apologising.
Your little bits before that also make you sound more like an entitled killer, than someone who has actually played both sides and experienced what you're arguing in favour for. Even using a piece of SATIRE as an argument!
If I'm CNN, then surely you're on the level of something like Buzzfeed.
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Because its impossible to play "properly" and have a chance at winning against a competent team. There are too many map resources and too little time. Camping, tunneling, and slugging is your only chance.
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By properly you mean to follow made up survivor rules? Got it.
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I don’t “play by the survivor rule book”, whatever that means, but it’s more fun to play aggressive and pressure everyone than it is to camp (yawn).
I’m not sure why so many killers are obsessed with the “survivor rule book”. No one’s gonna come and take your PC/console away if you tunnel someone. It’s not bannable to play in a way survivors don’t like so you’re free to do as you please, and they’re free to have an opinion. Sometimes their opinion is dumb and sometimes it’s not. It’s just a game so don’t take it so seriously.
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"Survivor rule book" is just a dog-whistle term for killers who play like trash and get called out for it so they can feel better about themselves because there are no actual ramifications for literally ruining people's games.
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Then you're doing something wrong. Not tunneling can give a lot of pressure, especially if you make it not clear that you're not tunneling.
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Right, cause survivors gloating at the gates after beating the killer to a pulp due to terrible maps, crutch perks, and quite literally the worst balancing team video gaming history, is not toxic. Right.
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Did I say it wasn't?
Flashlighting at pallets, teabagging at gates and abusing the power of something like DS annoys the hell out of me too and I call it out there. But, last time I checked this is not a thread about that.
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Gloating has existed in almost every PvP game and will continue to exist for as long as people are playing them. My boyfriend plays a game called Brawlhalla and some people there gloat every single time they get a kill, lmao. If gloating bothers you that badly then I’d honestly recommend staying away from PvP games because you’ll never escape it.
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Ok bud. I'm talking about the community, not the devs. The devs say its fair but its still frowned upon. Which I don't blame people for getting mad when it happens.
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You don't have to play by survivor's rules. But that doesn't change that tunneling, camping etc is frustrating for survivors.
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I'd like you to explain how. I can only think of a handful of killers that can get away with not slugging, camping, or tunneling against meta survivors at red ranks. Sure, you can play really 'nice' as pop goes the weasel Freddy / Spirit. Try no slow-down perk clown and it's a real different story.
If you jump into a red rank game against a good team with a weak killer the game can literally end in under 4-5 minutes. Especially if you are not running corrupt intervention so you have 2-3 survivors spawn on top of generators and start working on them 5-10 seconds into the game.
It's typical to lose 1 gen for your first hook even with corrupt on the weaker killers. If you don't make something of that hook, you are going to lose every time unless the team is boosted.
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I usually play pretty "nice" simply because it's more fun for me that way. I'm not saying others should do the same, play however you want.
I just like to chase people and I'd much rather chase people around and get 2 kills or something than tunnel/camp and get 4 kills. Because I often get bored if I do that and I don't play games to be bored.
At the same time that does mean if I see someone, I'm gonna chase them. If I see someone running for the hook, I'll chase them even if they keep running for it. If I run into someone that was recently unhooked I'll chase them just like anyone else, but I won't go out of my way to specifically go for them I'll just chase the first person I see lol.
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Play how you want, just know there's consequences to certain play styles. Just don't hold anything back for the sake of the "fun of survivors".
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The point is it makes survivor games easier.
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It isn't hard to play fair and 4k. you gotta know when it isn't worth going after someone and keep pressure by making pathing choices that force them to where others are or where you want to go next. I'm a GD moron and I can do it with basic m1 killers. It's an excuse to be lazy by people who want to ruin others good time.
I have to admit though I belly laugh when the killer gets the least points cause we didn't fall for his crap.
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The point is to make the game fun for everyone. I tend to think of it more as etiquette than a rule book. Admittedly I don’t follow it if it’s endgame or a toxic SWF.
But play however you want to play.
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I find it insulting when an opponent feels they have to "go easy" on me (or "play fair", as some people like to misname it) because they don't think I'm worth the effort. Maybe you like it when opponents hand you a win on a silver platter, but I don't.
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