Are red ranked survivors even hard to play against?

I see many posts complaining about matchmaking but I see survivors like this:

rank 1 = hard

rank 2-4 = average difficulty

rank 5+ = a joke

It makes sense to me that the average survivor a killer faces is red rank since that's the average difficulty.

Comments

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    Rank means NOTHING in terms of difficulty. I could literally name rank 1 (yes, not even 2) survivors who don't even look behind them in a chase and have no idea how to loop. They just get rank 1 by cleansing totems, unhooking others, healing them, holding the repair button etc. Even with ######### chases these people usually pip every game and rank up all the way to rank 1.

  • ZaKzan
    ZaKzan Member Posts: 544

    The game does a very poor job at managing skill level / ranking. So players (especially survivors) ranks are generally inflated. This pushes a lot of bad players into ranks they shouldn't be in, which then skews statistics at these ranks. Then we are given these statistics and changes are made based on these statistics that further unbalance the game, which then creates the cycle we're in now where the game is horribly balanced and it's becoming harder to have fun playing.

  • Bloodpoint_Addict
    Bloodpoint_Addict Member Posts: 16

    No

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,343

    Generally speaking, red rank players will be better, but it doesn't mean they're pros. It's usually an indicator of experience.

  • Fran1994
    Fran1994 Member Posts: 64

    I must, sadly, agree with you. I had some really bad games as a Survivor, and i got a pip anyway (i'm only rank 8 tbh) despite me only serving as a distraction, or simply repairing gens, or even unhooking...


    Honestly my idea of a good game as Survivor Is: do at least 2 gens + Keep the killer distracted for at least 4 minutes + cleansing 1 totem if the killer uses hex + doing a couple pallet stuns + unhooking at least 3 times + healing at least 2 times + get out of the trial without being hooked.


    If i can do this, then i feel like i deserve my 2 pips.


    I also play as a killer (only rank 12, but be nice to me, i have only 6 hours of play on mobile version) and i believe it's so much harder to get some pips... I had a game with full 4k, no unhook, no healing, no gens done, the game lasted less than 6 minutes (i was learning how to play nurse and i had so much fun dealing several perfect blinks on Lery memorial institute) and i admit it was bc of the survivors being pretty newbies... I got 1 Pip...


    Killers have to work harder to rank up, so it's kinda obvious that, at rank 1, a killer should be much more dangerous than most rank 1 survivors.


    Extra point, flashlight blinds are so much harder to do in mobile

  • mouse0270
    mouse0270 Member Posts: 849

    Rank really means nothing. A 4 Man SWF is harder than four solo's but I rarely run into the legendary "swat" SWF so many people complain about still. I actually prefer SWF over Solo because it's at least a little challenging, though I think I prefer 2 2Man SWF.

    Basically most 4 man Solo's are a 4-5, 2 Solos and 1 SWF is a 3-4, 2 SWF's of 2 is a 3, Everything else is between a 1-5 depending on the groups team work.

  • Hugs4trapdad
    Hugs4trapdad Member Posts: 55

    No. I'd wager almost every survivor can get to red ranks, if not rank 1, given enough time. You'd have to really be ######### up every game not to. From my experience there's such a huge variance in skill in the red ranks, from crack SAS squads, to derpy megs who camp and slam every pallet in the first two minutes of the game.

  • LapisInfernalis
    LapisInfernalis Member Posts: 4,218

    There is two types on red ranks.

    Those who truly belong there and those who don't.

    With the new rank reset more and more people get to red ranks but actually don't belong there. And there is those guys with 100hrs who are rank 1 because they got carried by their swf buddies.

    I faced rank 12 who were better than some rank 1 as well as true survivor gods with 5k or more hrs.

  • Chicagopimp2019
    Chicagopimp2019 Member Posts: 458

    Thanks to the rank error bug that seems to be more prevalent after the recent patch, my rank rarely goes up anymore and I have been sitting at the same rank all the time. Rank definitely means nothing because mine never goes up.

  • SewerSwans
    SewerSwans Member Posts: 147

    Even most rank 1s lack knowledge like how to avoid a 3 gen, run common loops, or who should go for the unhook and who should play cautiously. Not always all at once, but they are missing vital pieces. Players who can do all these things are uncommon, and players who understand the individual nuances of each killer are even rarer.

  • adsads123123123123
    adsads123123123123 Member Posts: 1,132
    edited June 2020

    Nah rank does matter. The difference between playing against 4 red ranks compared to 4 purple ranks is so obvious. When I play against purple ranks, it is fairly common for them to only complete 1-2 generators before all dying. Red ranks usually complete 3-5 generators. I would only say ranks don't matter much between rank 2-4 players since they are roughly the same difficulty. The feeling I get is that rank 5+ survivors just haven't grasped the fundamentals yet. They make errors game-losing errors far too often.