My personal tierlist ^-^
So this is my tierlist taking into account Add-onless games, SWF, perkless performance, and red rank performance.
Now heres some general questions Ill answer
"Why is Huntress above Billy?" Well Billy has great map pressure but theres a lot of loops he just CANT counter without a forced M1 that The Huntress very easily can especially if shes a top tier Huntress. Also on indoor maps Billy's pressure is useless however Huntress's chase abilities can still be extremely viable if shes a good player.'
"Why is Legion above...everyone hes above." Well lets go over somethings Legion has that Micheal doesn't. 1. Map Pressure, Micheal has virtually none and is kind of just an M1 killer with a 90 second insta down ability however Legion can transverse the map while keeping everyone injured right off the bat if he's lucky/good. 2. Instadown, Since people don't heal against Legion I guess you can call what he has an 'instadown' as everyone is injured with little to no actual buildup like Micheal has. 3. Gen Pressure, Legion has a lot of this as he can take anyone out of the game for 10 seconds at a time which may not seem like much but it can be a pretty big difference especially when you compare it to Micheal Myer's who has no gen pressure.
"Why is Pig bottom tier?" Pig is a killer all about pure luck. To use her Gen Pressure tool which is the main focus of her power you have to hope you down multiple people as an M1 killer before gens pop and then you have to hope that they don't get it on their 1st or 2nd box. On top of that she doesn't have much in the way of chase tools, she has her ambush which is good if not for the lengthy cooldown which makes it easy for survivors to move onto a new area. She excels in killer favored maps and does poor on any other map.
Anyways this is my personal tierlist from what I've witnessed, its kinda basic but whatever what do you guys think :)?
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i agree with all of this but clown i would put him in c but good tier list
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there is no universe where demo is below Legion.
EDIT also? Perkless performance should definitely not be a category decideder, no one is playing perkless unless they are challenging themselves, it should be all many perks the killer synergizes with, and how efficient they are with perks.
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Ok, how in the heck is Huntress rated an S and Deathslinger rated a B? That makes no sense. Deathslinger is the exact same as Huntress, except better in every way, except for 2. Iridescent Heads and being able to down someone over a pallet.
- Lower Terror Radius
- Quickscoping
- Shot drags you to Deathslinger, reducing looping
- Reload while moving
- Infinite ammo
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I do prefer deathslinger over huntress mostly because her humming is beyond stupid, I mean like who hums that loud?
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Every top player regards Huntress as better. Bypassing pallets is incredible, long shots are incredible. Deathslinger must either shoot you, hit you and then land a regular 110 M1,shoot you and then lose huge distance by reloading, or land a regular 110 M1 to open and then shoot you. He doesn't snowball like Huntress, who can simply hit two hatchets and drop you.
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Oni below Clown is... Not a thing, but I do appreciate someone putting Myers low. He is not a good killer. Most your choices, I agree with. I highly disagree with S Hag, she's massively vulnerable to SWF and aggressive trap disruption. Vs solos, she's S.
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Almost no terror radius is incredible. Huntress has the lullaby no matter what perks she uses.
Quickscoping is incredible. Huntress has the windup that gives players a tell, that she's going to throw. You can even see when she's throwing. Deathslinger is instantaneous.
Long shots aren't incredible. They're eh.
I bet most high rank players will choose Deathslinger over Huntress.
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A killer with poor mobility needs strong snowball to compensate, or they're rolled over by a team pounding gens. Deathslinger wins the 1v1 easier but loses the 1v4 to split pressure because his snowballing's bad. That's why top players' tier lists put him below Huntress, as far as I understand. If by high rank you mean rank 1s, sure, most rank 1s play at a level where split pressure doesn't occur consistently and most the survivors on the team are boosted.
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I would say that Wraith is probably in the A tier and clown is in C or D.
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If you go for perkless performance, Pig would be way higher. She has a Build-In Slowdown, which already can give an advantage. Yes, the Traps are RNG; but they are guaranteed timewasters, even if they get it off at the first Box.
In comparison, Trapper, who you put one Tier higher, is a Killer who needs to set a Trap to pick up another Trap.
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You can put 2 bag perks and carry, I think, 4 at a time.
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Having played both, as well as growing up on first person shooters - Huntress is better.
Her hatchets are the size of trucks, and are SO forgiving. Deathslinger has 0 forgiveness with his pixel perfect hitbox and bugged survivor hitboxes.
►Shoot = miss
Deathslinger: you're slowed and have to wait for the spear to return. Reload - slowed again. They're now out of range, start trudging along or give up on the chase.
Whereas Huntress, miss - keep chasing bro you're barely slowed!
►Shoot = hit
Deathslinger: nice! now you have to reel them in to hurt them. This takes time, and sometimes there's a tree or rock that they can move behind to avoid the hit. You either get an M1 and cannot follow up with another shot because you have to wipe blood, then reload, then fire again but they're well out of range now. Or they break the chain and best case scenario they weren't injured in the first place. Worst case you just wasted time. Reload and try again or catch up to them.
Huntress? you just get a hit. That's it. If they're not down, you're barely slowed and you can follow up with a quick M1 if you are close enough.
The only thing he has over her is the reloading mechanic and humming. Her addons are better, including the blatantly OP Iridescent.
I don't want to make it seem like deathslinger is garbage - he's pretty middle tier or even a little weak.. but i still love him. He's just too much fun to play.
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Yeah, but OP also wrote about addonless. Like, I play Pig all the time without Add Ons. While Trapper always (and I mean: 100% of the time) has one Slot dedicated to a Bag.
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Why always Michael below Ghostface? I think Michael more powerful but Ghostface more fun
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Because GF can completely eliminate his TR with a click of a button and keep survivors pressured by constantly sneaking up on them so he can ignore chase a lot of the times. Micheal cannot
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Personally I think Trapper is above Pig because he can shut down incredibly powerful loops that the pig quite frankly just cant.
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Idk Clown after his buff is CRAZY Good :0 Wraith add-onless and perkless is low because he has to uncloak and recloak to use his power which gives survivors ample time to find a pallet or loop/
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This is really good. All id change is clown. Id put him lower.
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Move Pig up to B, Trapper down to D, PH down to B and Plague down to C and I'd say that's my tier list (not including individual rankings in the tiers).
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Thank god there is one other sane person on here and thinks Deathslinger is better than everyone says. Find it funny that everyone says "BuT hE dOeSn'T hAvE mAp PrEsSuRe" when almost every killer in the game doesn't have map pressure except for Billy and maybe Wraith. Killers like Deathslinger and Nurse create pressure by downing people in 10 seconds, and I really don't know how this is such a hard concept to grasp for some people.
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Nurse has much better mobility than Slinger and can use Infectious to move onto new targets in an eyeblink to take 3 people off gens via slugging. Her downs are consistently rapid if she plays her cards right. Slinger is not like Nurse. He's bedevilled either by his reload or his requirement to hit a 110 M1 every single chase with a healthy target, and by his lack of mobility, and most importantly by pallets, which he cannot down people over.
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We know Deathslinger isn't as good as Nurse. I don't think any killer is as good as a great Nurse player.
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I would bump wraith, demo, and plague up a little higher, but great list overall :).
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That Clown position.
And OP has the balls not even to address it. Mad respect. Even though it confuses, baffles and annoys me.
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The top players I follow that actually play Deathslinger frequently and don't find him boring (namely Zubat) think he's better than Huntress.
Hard disagree. Between having a microscopic terror radius with no hum, and an instant windup time, you can m1-shoot-down combo with DS just as easily as you can Hatchet-melee combo with Huntress. Plus he plays around loops infinitely better due to the lack of windup time and penalty for putting his gun down, which are Huntress's biggest weak points. And the chain is so forgiving that you can get hit on the other side of short loops and DS can still lunge around, or walk backwards out in the open to remove the possibility of getting behind cover because you're moving too fast to get caught. Good Huntresses are scary for sure, but I'd rather go against a huntress than a deathslinger every day of the week.
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Well the huntress starts off with the hatchet and M1 combo.. DS needs 8 hits on non-obsession targets? Those aren't even remotely comparable..
And some loops the DS has it better off, but you can just pre-throw pallets and there's NOTHING he can do, and is forced to break them.
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Where at all did I mention that DS needs STBFL? Unless you're on an indoor map (Where huntress would be 100% worse) even with default wipe speed you can still get a shot on a survivor in just about every case where huntress can get a hatchet melee combo.
there's NOTHING he can do, and is forced to break them.
Okay, so he breaks them and gets a hit on the survivor, plus has a pallet out of the way. People act like breaking a pallet means the survivor just vanishes while you do it. If you play the break well, survivors will be maybe 10 yards away by the time you're done. Just shoot them with your instant windup gun afterwards and get a free hit, plus easy relocation back to the pallet you just broke.
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Deathslinger is at least A, rather S Tier. His killing potential is 2nd best in the game.
I would rank Clown lower, probably C Tier. Legion also a bit lower.
Other then that, a decent tier list.
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Anytime someone makes a list like this, they usually are focused on how hard the player is to play as, or to play against (hopefully both). You will always have some that agree with your list, but seems everyone plays different...many that disagree. Example, it’s widely accepted that Doctor is a good killer, but I feel he’s too easy to outsmart, always different opinions so don’t let anyone (including me) change your perspective.
That being said...why is Spirit always placed with Nurse in SS on these lists? Yes, the Spirit is super strong. But reality is this:
Nurse: Michael Jordan, Spirit: LeBron James
Just because they’re both great does NOT put them on the same level.
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Oh man, didn't actually know that about Zubat; thank you. I'll go looking for slinger gameplay from him.
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May i ask who those Top players are?
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Since they borked Billy he's been maining Deathslinger, though he fully admits that DS is insanely boring and uninteractive to go against. Half the time he just spams ADS without firing to force survivors to juke, so he gets a free easy hit.
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I was mistaken about Zubat, but Fungoose regards Huntress as much better IIRC. Showstopper is a high level PS4 player who regards Deathslinger as an unspectacular killer and Huntress as pretty good. However, now you ask I'm taking another look, and Dowsey has a rank 1 tier list that places Deathslinger above Huntress. Although he does mention this is based on 'rank 1 viability' and mentions average rank 1 killers as a factor in his placement of Huntress, so I'm not sure if a competitive viability tier list from him would put Huntress higher.
I'm not sure what Jund thinks, he doesn't have a decent tier list, which is a significant omission.
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Thanks for answering. I heared in the past when people first had to learn Slinger that he is not that great, but now i almost never see anyone placing him below huntress.
I am also one of those who thinks, Deathslinger is better then Huntress. His quickscope machanic is the main reason for that.
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Deathslinger isn't actually that great. He only works well because everyone who plays him camps like a hag. Without camping and tunneling, he's weak.
A huntress doesn't have to camp and tunnel to be good and has a higher skill cap. Watch some top tier Huntress gameplay and tell me she isn't better.
Top tier Deathslinger play is people literally just proxy camping using his stupid ass terror radius and then coming back to hook for easy downs and pretending that makes him a good killer.
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I'm starting to get the feeling that you're basing this all on playing AGAINST the deathslinger, rather than playing with him.
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Honestly I didn't address i because a lot of streamers were addressing how good he was post buff but yeah his buff was really major though small and I noticed his performance and my own performance with him sky rocketing in red ranks :O
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Because when it comes to top Spirit survivors I dont think theres a chance of survival in all honesty. Especially from what I've seen and experienced back when I was a top Spirit main haha. I think shes below but the same level as Nurse.
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100% agree
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