What is a “Win” and “Loss?”
Both killer and survivor, what do you consider a win and what do you consider as losing a game?
Just a random question I had.
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as killer, at least two kills would be a win.
as survivor, at least two of the survivors leaving. whether im included or not doesn't matter, as long as at least two make it out.
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I don't consider it a win if I survive but don't get over 15k points.
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I think a win dor killer is either a ruthless or merciless becuase they both increase ur rank for survivor escaping is a win
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As a survivor? I consider it a win if I had fun without being toxic.
As a killer? I consider it a win if I get a 2k. Without tunneling, camping, playing as fair as possible, trying to ensure everyone has fun, because hearing someone had fun is much better for me than knowing I had fun at the cost of a fat Ebony and a silent-bell Wraith (or ForeverFreddy(tm) or Insta-shock Doc).
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0k-1k survivors win, 2k draw, 3k-4k killer wins. Or at least that's how I've judged my games.
But as long as you had fun aren't we alllll really winners?
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gimme some bbq stacks and we can call it a day. but beyond that, 2k is a tie, 3 or 4K is a win.
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W in my book if I get at least 20k points on survivor
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For me the win is If I had fun no matter if I die or escape or kill all or one person etc.
It doesn't really matter how you're gonna end up, you're gonna be send to the campfire anyway.
So in short: Fun = win, no fun = lose.
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I know sounds depressingly, but it's true!
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A win or loss is subjective. A win for me if I was to be objective is 2 kills and over, whilst a loss is under 2 kills. A real win for me is if I had fun. Survivor is basically the same thing. Just escape and you win.
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Long story short.
Survivor win condition: Escape by any means necessary
Killer win condition: Kill the Survivors before they can escape
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if I dont pip I lost because I wasnt good enough for daddy long leg's love.
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Depip is a loss black pip tie pip win
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What about once you hit rank 1?
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then like when youre a cage fighting champion you have to defend your title.
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OMG I love you. this is exactly how I play. I just want to have a good time, that's why I play this game.
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0 kills i got demolished.
1 kill loss
2 kills could see it as a win or loss or draw depending on survivors/rng/what happened in general
3 kills win
4 kills demolished
Survivor idc, i measure my success based on bps and pips but winning/losing doesnt matter to me. Neither does escape or die
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I generally go by Kill vs. Escape ratio.
3 or 4 kills means Killer wins
0 or 1 kills means Survivors win
2 kills is a draw.
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Win is a 4k, 5 gen, 32k, 4 iri emblem game where you also kill them all with Devour Hope.
Loss is being tombstoned first.
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As killer, 4 BBQ stacks and at least two kills.
As survivor, escaping through the exit gate.
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Good example lol
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survivor: Doing well in a match, just being able to do a range of things in a trial. dont care about escaping tbh but escaping is pretty easy so maybe thats why i dont see it as a win.
Killer: at least 9hooks or a 3k, i dont often slug for the 4k unless they wanted to be toxic. i personally say 9 hooks because 12hooks is max and it can be really hard against good teams to achieve the 12, while i believe the killer should be the power role its not really the case when everyone is at high skill level (not mentioning weaker killers) but if i get less than 9 i havent really done much of my objective as a killer, iv always been a fan of the longer games myself without needing to slug and tunnel
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I'm glad there are other people out there who play like that :)
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100% this. Even if I don't get 1 kill, as long as the survivors were fun to go against, I'm happy to let them leave. I feel like if we just show them we're not all mega sweaty tryhards determined to get kills, then they go to their next match a little more relaxed and happy, and might share that same courtesy to their next killer
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Mmh, i don't really care about the match result anymore for Killer.
If i kill someone, that's a win.
If they escape, that's a loss.
For Survivor, it's still escaping.
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From a killer v team perspective
3,4 kills for a win
2 kills for a draw
1 kill is a loss
As for individual v killer
Most points wins
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If I had fun then I win. If the match was enjoyable for me then that is all that matters. Whether I escape or kill them all is irrelevant. All I care about is having a fun match.
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Fun chases and bloodpoints are a win for me
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As a survivor, I tend to go by pipping. I don't escape a lot, but if I did enough to pip up anyway, I consider it a win. And if I safetied, then it sort of depends on how the rest of the match went if I consider it a win or not.
For killer, I'd consider a 2k a win if I hooked all 4 survivors. 3-4k also wins. But like I've gotten a double pip merciless killer on Legion with a 3k before because I got everyone and that guy was on death hook, so like, even the 4k doesn't matter. As long as I got 2+!
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For killer:
1K~ loss
2K~ tie
3K/4K~ win
For survivor:
escaping is a win and dying is a loss
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As for as the game goes depipping is a loss, black pip is a draw, pip is a win and double pip is a crushing victory.
You can make your own personal rules ofcourse but then you can't really talk about balance anymore then
If you only concider a 4k or a crushing victory a win you shouldn't be amazed that you'll lose more
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For both sides, to me its the points.
Its gonna stay like that till my goal of maxing everthing out is over. So, never.
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Killer:
1 or 2 kills is a loss.
3k and 1 escape through gates is a tie.
4k or 3k and a hatch escape is a win.
Not getting 4 bbq stacks in any of these options is an instant loss.
Survivor:
Death without finishing my ritual or challenge is a loss, if I do finish them and die even with subpar score, it is a win.
Escaping is a win, but not finishing my main objectives (ritual or challenge) is a tie/loss.
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First to 3, for both killer and survivor because hatch is RNG. Cant base things off points because each survivor/killer plays differently.
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Win: safety pip, pip +1, or pip +2
Lose: depip
It's simple as that.
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I wrote a post on it:
my thoughts...
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