Demogorgon - "Undetectable"

My opinion is that the Demogorgon doesnt need any attention. He has among the best map pressure, good anti loop ability, high chase control, and a power than combos with multiple varying perk builds. All that plus a true monster like design What more do you need?

Demo doesnt need to be the best. He just wants to go rawr at people and likes to enjoy a well earned snack.

Because the devs don’t want another Prayer Beads Spirit situation where you have zero audio cue that the killer is coming. That’s why Demogorgon has an audible cue that he is teleporting and has very loud footsteps. Same with other killers. Freddy has blood that comes from the generator when teleporting. Ghostface’s robe flaps. Myers has loud breathing. Pig has an audible roar before dashing. Wraith has to uncloak first, etc...

However I do believe that Demogorgon’s audio cues should be toned down a bit, even from the killer’s perspective. Demo has extremely loud footsteps that even he can’t hear survivor footsteps over his own. His SFX should be quieter on both the killer and survivors perspective.

Cant real say much in honest outside of my personal gameplay. Demo works for me and against the Survivors I go against.

Might be a regional thing. Might be just potato Survivors not taking advantage (very likely this). Or it might be I'm playing Demo in a different way that just happens to work. No idea. Odds are its potatoes and me being in green ranks at the moment if I had to guess.

All I can say is that Demo is one of if not my highest preforming Killer. Last 3 days I haven't had a single escape that wasnt the hatch in one way or another.

Well, I wish I could say I had as much success with Demogorgon as you. I'm in green ranks on US East, but I frequently get matched with red-ranked and purple-ranked survivors by matchmaking (Thanks BHVR). Against players of that caliber, I have little chance of doing better than a 2K.

Many otherwise-tolerable loops are near-impossible for me to mindgame with my loud clumsy footsteps, and it's quite rare for me to actually get the drop on a survivor after using a portal. Getting hooks is almost always a struggle against experienced survivors.

Compared to my most-played character (Doctor), I'd say my performance has been consistently worse.

If wanted, let me tell you how I play Demo.

Build. Save the Best for Last, Surge, Surveillance, and Ruin. Preferred add-on types. Shred move speed, faster tunnel travel, longer undetectable, and extra tunnels.

Starting out, you want to place a tunnel at least some meters away from gens. Out of sight and on the edge of local hearing range. So often enough that means in the next tile from a gen. Attempt to place tunnels in order to cut off paths to loops as if you are coming from a good loop, they can't run to it without getting hit forcing Survivors to run to where you want them. And once you start using tunnels for travel. The more resources are used in the areas you herd Survivors towards making them more dangerous as the game progresses. Also you might want to place an extra tunnel around a possible 3 gen setup and avoid using it just in case Survivors destroy a known tunnel to prevent said 3 gen setup.

If you aren't in a chase, attempt to travel by tunnel as much as possible. Keep people guessing where you are. Travel to check that gen and by the time you walk to the next gen, odds are you can travel through its tunnel by default. The more you make Survivors guess where you are, the better the odds of finding someone out of position.

NEVER use tunnels as detection! The AOE is near worthless and can often be ignored by Survivors as you will likely never want to hold Of the Abyss due to slower move speed. And the odds of you reacting to the detection is almost nil without holding tunnels and wasting them in random places. To little resources, too slow reaction times, and too little information. It just isn't worth it outside of camping both gates or basement plays.

In loops, attempt to bait Shred as well as commit to it. Shred is great in landing hits otherwise impossible, but you can be dodged rather easy. So you want to mix in baiting them into dodging. If you can bait someone to dodge your Shred, they just lost a LOT of ground allowing for M1s. As you land M1s, you will be building up STBFL stacks and soon enough will become VERY powerful. Shred the obsession as needed though to keep STBFL stacks. But with STBFL you can M1 into a Shred for a quick down before the Survivor can run away. Sometimes you can even hit them mid speed boost from taking the M1 thinking they are safe and wont bother to dodge.

Surge comes into play thanks to how well Shred can bait into a M1 while building up STBFL. Helps save a LOT of time when you almost never need to kick gens. Surveillance combos with this to make better use of your tunnels. If the gen is white, they NEVER go red when hitting 0% with Surge, no need to tunnel there. Keeping that tunnel hidden till needed. But if you see a red or yellow gen, you instantly know where to put pressure. Each gen you can ignore, the more pressure you can apply to what gens remain.

Wish I could replace Ruin though. Hate having to use it. But it's Ruin. No other Killer perk comes close to it in slowing gen progress.

From there it's just the basics. Mindgames, red stain control, predicting/reacting to Survivors, knowing when to or not to chase, and what else comes in normal gameplay.

They should also make his attack cooldown not mapwide. It’s not fooling any Survivors, especially when they can see that someone got injured or went down or look around.

yeah, when he comes out of a partal he makes quite a lot of noise while doing so.

on top of that his footsteps are immensly loud, so undetectable isnt doing much for you.

i wouldnt mind if they'd rework some aspects of the portals tbh. and the add ons. he needs more "quicker recovery from missed shred attacks" add ons, or just add ons in general that affect his shred.

I did, and without addons. Generators can be really loud when they're progressed.

Best not to necro mods dont like it

I know but mods tend to close necro'd threads amd may give a warning about it.