The Hag...

Judging by your avatar I can smell the bias from here.

I wasn’t actually killed, but nice try. But one of the randoms on my team was. Nobody triggered any traps going to rescue the guy, but the Hag would come straight back so the only option was to sit in the basement or run and trigger every trap. And they didn’t have DS, so she just kept repeating this process until they died. I actually see the Hag a lot on console so I don’t know what you mean about her being the least played killer.

If you think that’s fair that once somebody is trapped in the basement they need perks to be able to escape against a tunnelling Hag, well I guess that says more about you than me. And don’t try the whole “play killer” argument as I’m a rank 1 killer. I just don’t see how that gameplay is fun for either side or fair.

Did you not read anything I said? The problem isn’t playing around her traps. It’s easy getting into the basement. But how are you supposed to get back out once she’s heading back? The only way around her traps is to crouch over them or use a flashlight. There’s not enough time to crouch out and the last time I checked people don’t have a flashlight on them at all times.

You’re obviously not reading what I’m writing, so this will be my last reply to you as I’m not having a back and forth with a brick wall.

The tactic your describing is one that works if you have the right perks. Yeah, somebody could trigger all the traps and distract the killer whilst somebody else goes down for the save but unless the person doing the unhooking has BT or the person on the hook has DS, they will just be instantly downed again and thrown back on the hook. That’s what my main post was talking about. I’m asking why you need perks to be able to counter her in the basement when literally no other killer has this problem. You shouldn’t have to run perks to be able to get out of the basement with a tunnelling Hag.

It’s nothing to do with being outplayed.

I don’t actually mind facing the Hag, it’s literally just the basement scenario I find ridiculous. It takes too long to crawl out of there, it doesn’t matter if she has a slower speed, she can still get back in time. No other killer has that sort of basement power without having to stay down there.

Okay, this is my last response. I know I said that before but I mean it now. You aren’t reading anything I am saying. Who said you need a perk to crouch?! MY ISSUE IS WITH HOW LONG IT TAKES TO CROUCH BACK OUT OF THE BASEMENT WHILST THE HAG IS COMING STRAIGHT BACK.

You have 2 options. Crouch walk out and get downed again before you can make it up the stairs or run and trigger traps and then get downed as she teleports back.

But yeah you’re right, that’s being ‘out played’

LMAO goodbye.

It isn’t always the survivors fault, like I said, let’s not act like the hit boxes are accurate on this game. So many hits that clearly don’t connect on your screen somehow manage to down, so a lot of the time you going down isn’t your fault. But that’s not the point.

The fact you just said you don’t go to save in the basement when it’s a Hag is proving my point that there’s an issue. Not EVERY Hag does it, but I’d say it’s a bigger percentage that do. The fact you either need a flashlight or certain perks to be able to get somebody out of the basement against her makes zero sense to me. Name another killer where you need perks or an item to successfully get the save? Oh yeah, there isn’t one.

You don’t even need to get hooked near the basement either. You only have to watch the streamers who use Iron Grasp and Agitation on her.

It’s not hard to walk around the person who did the unhooking to down the person fresh off the hook. I’ve also survived against the basement Hag before, but they’re the ones who don’t intend to tunnel or it’s when I’ve been given BT or I’m using DS.

As DudeDelicious said, the fact that Pyramid Head and Bubba have been nerfed so that they can’t tunnel/camp as hard when Hagatha is literally a tunnellers dream makes zero sense.

It’s nothing to do with my skill level. As 9/10 I’m not the one in the basement. But the fact we have to lose somebody on their first hook because they didn’t feel like running DS is ridiculous. The only counter is for the person playing Hag to be a potato or for them not to tunnel in the first place. That’s it.

I like being altruistic and I don’t get any pleasure from working on gens whilst somebody is just left to rot in the basement because the Devs have given Hagatha so much power in the basement. It’s just stupid.

I agree with everything you said.

I play both sides and I don’t look at things from a particular clouded perspective. I actually defend Hag a lot as I also don’t find it fair that Freddy has snares that can’t be avoided but you can crouch over Hags traps or get rid of them completely.

She definitely needs a rework. She isn’t balanced in the slightest. She’s either incredibly weak in certain scenarios or far too strong. That isn’t how it should be.

I’m on PS4 also and I face Hagatha a lot. So I’m assuming the guy that said she’s one of the most underused killers is playing on something else? Because I feel like I see her more than Billy. And this is whilst at rank 1. The only killer I’d say is virtually non-existent would be Clown. I almost never see him unless I’m the one playing as him.

She honestly has the potential to be such a good killer. But, like you said almost everybody that uses her plays like absolute scum. It’s the same with Pig, which also annoys me as she’s one of my favourites but I feel like almost every Pig player will tunnel you excessively once you’ve been trapped. It’s either get hooked until you die or wait until your head explodes. Such fun. Said no one.