Tryhard / Sweaty? Someone who uses this as an insult, help me understand

These terms are both thrown around way to easily. People will often call you them for simply playing the game. However a textbook definition would be someone who solely cares about winning and nothing else, putting in maximum effort to achieve the goal of winning. I would say an example of this would be a Spirit with OP add-ons (Ring + Amulet combo) who brings a Mori.

Yeah, it's the weirdest attempt at a burn.

"You tried! You put effort into an activity you're engaged in! What a loser!!!"

The only people I've found who call me a tryhard or sweaty are the ones who have no other excuses for them losing. Can't blame me for camping or tunneling. Can't blame me for playing an "overused/boring/low skill" killer (I main Nurse on console). Can't blame me for bringing "op" stuff like noed or a mori. Can't blame me for "getting lucky". So all they can call me is "sweaty" or a "tryhard" :p

Tryhard is more of a term when people use a specific build. So for example Forever Freddy + Mori. Or a survivor with a meta build (Adren, DS, BT, etc) + Purple Flashlight with best addons. They are "sweaty tryhards" even though they're just playing the game as intended.

Or maybe even when someone disconnects during a match and the killer isn't friendly by letting everyone live (when there is NO RULE that says they have to be).

Just dumb people being dumb.

"I actually tried my best, but I'm too insecure ti admit that, because if I had to admit that, I would also have to admit that my performance wasn't good enough and that my opponent did better than me. So I'm just gonna pretend I didn't give my best, like I was just trying to chill and expecting my opponent to do the same, and then I can blame them for not engaging in that. Now I just gotta repeat that to myself so that I can suppress the truth and therefore my lack of self-worth."

Just like when I was 15 and handed in empty sheets during an exam to get the worst grade possible instead of the average grade I would've gotten due to not studying - because, you know, I didn't even try, so it doesn't say anything about my skills.

The only context where I personally use the term is when I am in an Overwatch free for all match where everyone is emoting and voice lining with each other, until that one tryhard comes to the map and kills one of those dancing people only to show off how good he is at killing a person who cant even shoot during their emote.

It means your skill is superior to their skill. They want you to play worse so they can win.

Did you seriously just compare legit gameplay with cheats?

Tryhard is generally used to describe someone in a non competitive environment that still gives his all to win while the side that uses this term is, in their mind atleast, just playing for fun.

Sweaty was introduced in dbd since games on the killer side need much micro management of pressure since you have to divide your attention between 4 opposing players, atleast if you always aim for the 4k. You have to put effort aka sweat for it.

Both terms degenerated to insults in online games.

Edit: both terms are rather vague when it comes to dbd, since this game only has "ranked mode".

This in itself would void the value of both terms since the environment would no longer be non competitive but we all know rank means nothing when there are only 20 and you get resets in a months time frame.

Try-hards are players who take the game more serious than others like they have money on the match their life depends on it 😯

We're all trying are hardest to win so we are all try-hards 😂🤣 ignore and move on

It’s basically trying your absolute best against opponents who aren’t. As a DBD example, a Spirit with full meta perks and an ebony mori against a team that are plundering chests and shining their flashlights on each other’s butts. Or a full stacked SWF with Object and a key against a moonwalking Myers.

You wouldn’t call two competitive teams going head to head sweaty, because it’s expected that both sides want desperately to win and will use whatever tactics are allowed to do so. But if you had a charity sporting event and one side showed up for a fun, lighthearted game and the other side really went for it, that would probably be “sweaty tryhard” territory, just as an example.

The problem with DBD is that there’s no casual mode and you don’t know what your opponent will play like before the match. So you can bring a full try hard load out expecting the other side to do the same, but if they don’t, they’ll be mad and call you names. But you can’t really know pre-match.

I wouldn’t take it too seriously as an insult. I say it sometimes if I’m frustrated (just to myself, I don’t insult people in post game chat). The only time I think someone who’s being sweaty is genuinely being an unpleasant person is a smurf or de-ranker trying to bully new players. Otherwise, everyone has had a “sweaty” match after a string of bad ones. If it’s in the game and intended it’s fair play.

We'll have to agree to disagree. In my experience, people who play to win take pride in their accomplishments and heavily admonish cheaters. People who abuse exploits are just toxic, plain and simple.

If you don't care about losing, then you should have no problem with tryhards who try to make you lose. Problem solved.

Usually its people that, just wanted a chill game and somehow expects you to do the same. Which is stupid, because its not up to you to play the game the way they want. But this upsets them so they have to take their anger out on the anonymous person that in their mind didnt play their way. This should be ignored.

Or sometimes its people that are trying to win but, to them is not doing anything thats as "overpowered"/"strong" compared to what you are doing. Again these people are living by some unknown rules and expect you to follow them. Again this should be ignored.

Sometimes its people that wanted to troll you or are just too cocky. Like flashlight spamming, going for pallet stuns constantly so they can tbag. Or are just underestimating you because you are playing a killer that in their mind is really weak. So when they get killed. Well again back at the upset + outburst. Too much salt is bad for you, so this should be ignored.

I just got called tryhard for using everything I possibly could use of very strong/op add-ons perks. Plus a mori. On a spirit. Why would I go so far? Because I hate keys and blendettes. 2 blendettes brought 2 keys in a 4man swf. I just wanna play normal games. But since I cant control what the survivors want to do, I can at least make the game a lot easier for me since I dont want always want to play the best of the best.

Of course it's you who pops in to declare that killers are somehow to blame for something here. 🤣

No different than the red rank SWF's that do the same and end the game in 2 minutes when there's 5 cakes.

It might seem like an inefficient use of the cakes, but complaining that they played to win is silly. It's not on anyone to dictate how other people choose to play, which is what this comes off as.

(The only reason I get frustrated by it is that when I kill people they complain that there were cakes, so I should go easy...and when I go easy they just rush gens and end the game before anyone gets any points. So eventually I just stop thinking about what they want and play however I feel. Break out skill check Doc, get 32k with 5 cakes and 5 gens up. Yay. I get way more points just playing normally than when I farm, anyway.)

I've been called a sweaty tryhard for playing spirit. I played lazy and didn't take the match seriously because I was just finishing up the achievement to down 30 Survivors in the post phase state. Apparently though, just playing as spirit with mediocre add-ons and only her three perks is sweaty tryhard territory.

It's not about SWF or killer exclusively. I just gave an example. The fact that you have to say "No different than the red rank SWF's" shows some bias. Nobody tries comparing the things like that unless they're trying to make it about one side vs. the other, and that's clearly not what this is about.

So please don't try to make this into a survivor vs. killer competition. I gave one example that stuck out to me because there's not a lot that people can do against being tunneled and mori'd off first hook. The killer is a lot more in control of the game, at least in a 1v1 aspect, so they have the capability to just completely shut somebody's game down and not even let them get like 3k points if they really want to. I don't give a rat's ass TBH if there's a survivor equivalent to that, so don't try to make that what this is about please. I do understand what you're saying, because I prefer playing killer anyway but still I hate that us vs. them crap. It's not productive.

That doesn't make any sense, because a killer can still use a mori in game and not be a complete dick about it. As you said, "facecamping is another story" and that's what I'm talking about. People who will literally do everything in their power just to shut everybody's game down, in the most scumbag way possible.

So yes, the implication does make sense. You can use a mori and not be a camping douche that moris off first hook. I'm not saying the act of bringing a mori in itself makes you a scumbag but there's definitely a scummy way to use it. Take a look at how people would mori animation cancel over and over back before the feature got removed: people will literally just do scumbag things just because they can. Honestly, the people responding and trying to make it about killer vs. survivor in their replies to me are probably exactly that kind of person. Either that or they're just trying to be combative for the sake of it.

I think it's hilarious how people are jumping in to white knight for killers because of what I said, just because it happens to be an example of a killer doing bad things. I could have said the "red rank SWF" example that other dude tried to bring up to me, but then it would just be the opposite, with survivors trying to get pissed and say "well what about killers doing blah blah." This isn't directed at you necessarily, but it's just funny how I give a perfectly on-topic example of what sweaty or tryhard would be (at least to most people, I would imagine) and I get people jumping down my throat about... IDEK what. I thought my example was perfectly fine.

It all depends on who you ask. The meaning will vary from person to person. If I were calling somebody sweaty/a tryhard it would be a Huntress with Iri hatchets an Ebony Mori and Noed. To me it's something like that which screams to me they are desperate to win.

Others will say it because they are mad they lost. Or sometimes because they felt like the other person is taking the game/themselves too seriously.