stop the camping

One of the biggest weakness of swf is extreme altruism. They want the happy end to the horror movie where all 4 run towards the rainbow at the end. This is also the reason that swf don't have a statistically higher Wingate compared to solo (atleast in my mind).

Yeah, but that feeds their flaming rage against this style of "camping". It is a kind of self fulfilling prophecy.

And every now and then it will be a delta squad and ruin the day of the killer, so I don't like swf myself too much but hey nothing we can do against that.

If I'm doing killer dailies, or trying to do a few killer rounds for faster bp with a killer I have bbq with and I see a red survivor aura especially right off the bat I farm them and assume it's a swf group. I'll literally facecamp them and not take a risk even trying to tunnel because of ds and flashlight shenanigans if I saw those and managed to get them up and hooked safely. When you can be 17-15 and get 1 to 3 red ranks and a low rank survivor with them abusing the matchmaking like that, on top of a voip edge especially abusing a perk like object... expect that to happen sometimes. If you're using object and I get you, I'm sorry if you're an unaware solo not knowing better but you're being assumed a troll and swf and getting facecamped until you suicide on the hook or the stage countdowns getcha since I assume I'm never getting anybody else until you're gone anyways and by that logic don't mind a little round of Ernest Goes to Camp.

😍 Imagine me and you, and you and me, no matter where the object rolls... it has to be. The only one to hook is you, as you see me... so campy together. I can't see me hookin nobody but you... until you're gone. 💔la la la

You have to understand the guy that gets hooked early and facecamped, is literally getting Nothing for wasting 3 minutes of his own time that could be used already being finishing first gen or hitting one up by then in another match. Of course they're gonna suicide in that case.

The other day somebody ran a bubba straight into me at a really bad spot not even half a minute into a match and he literally sat right in my face, and I tapped out since I was gonna get literally nothing but the measely few hundred or so for the gen I was on while also having to deal with my extremely low attention-span on top of how much that idgit ticked me off. Naturally, well before that three minutes of face would have taken to end, I was already on a gen in another match. Maybe that dude shouldn't have leashed his agro off onto me and gotten me facecamped if he wanted 3 teammates (he only had 2 anyways, even if I'd stayed and literally did nothing but twiddle my thumbs for no bloodpoints at all and completely wasted my own time... my own time idgaf about the guy's time that got me facecamped just like he doesn't care about mine for all I know they were even 3 man swf and I was their bait). They should at least give people enough incentive to sit through that for a bunch of total complete strangers over starting a fresh match. Nobody wants to work for free. It makes no sense. The time you spend there, you don't make any bloodpoints at all if it happened too early into the match and might as well move on knowing it's a good chance it's a 2 or 3 man swf happy to have the bait anyways. They didn't even use any cakes except the killer lol, I wouldn't even have gotten 2k bp out of that, which wouldn't have been nearly enough to sit there and put up with that anyways since it happened so early into it.

unless they're facing object and possibly voip swf abusing that perk,t hen it might become the only way to assure you'd ever get anybody else.

A camping killer will get 1 kill every game. More than that is your team’s fault. The time he’s camping, means no one is being chased. Means you have the majority of map tiles and pallets to play off still. Combine that with bodyblocking teamwork, killer stands no chance.

This is effective from any semi-decent survivor, they don’t even have to be good.

The punishment is your team doing gens rather than feeding the camper. Depending on how early you're caught they can finish the gens before you die. If all 4 start on separate gens and you put up a minute long chase before going down 3 gens are done by the time you're hooked. The other 2 done before you're dead. Hell they could even have the gates open before you're dead. If they got 30k from camping it's because that team fed them free hooks.

Thing is, even if you do gens,

Camping still sucks.

I went five in a row being camped. How am I supposed to communicate with other survivors, as a solo player, NOT to come to me and just do gens???

Like everyone goes "JUst do gens hurr durr" n you know that, and I know that, but the bulk of the playerbase does NOT know that, and it ######### up this game for the lot of us that killers just camp you and get rewarded for it.

Literally saw a rank 1 billy the other day who just hooks then stands just far enough to ######### up kindred and then charges the first person to unhook.

Trying to buy your teammates time seems to just get them killed, and killing yourself off the bat just means another person gets camped after you. One way or another, the camper has ######### the game for anywhere from 1-4 other people.

I just feel like there has to be a harsher penalty for this behavior.

It's not camping if they don't let you leave.

For myself, campers are why I run Kindred. Killer wants to camp me then everybody can know about it.

in the beginning, the game has surpassed that now, it's a team based game now. you legit need TEAMwork to survive the game.

lemon squeezy

negan for next killer if not the thing with survivor mimic stealth mechanic

Maybe but if Evey last survivor player would simply stick to doing gens once someone gets camped and would keep doing for, I don't know, several months, camping would maybe die out since killers would not gain anything from it. Except when the door are already open.

Camping is actually a bad strategy if the team is competent. Most people know that jumping from a hook is bad and so if someone hooks a survivor and hangs around, they could end up losing a lot of survivors that way if gens are being worked on. If someone camps and are being toxic, that's the card shuffle for that match.

Yeah but this would make patience and thinking necessary. Which seems to go down the bigger the low skill swf group is.

Edit: Ahhh I just imagined a fresh hooked survivor seeing his buddy come running right when the hook happened.

Everything runs in slow motion and sparkly blur. "You've got a friend in me" from toystory running in the background.

And then the sudden silent cut when the killer returns to smack the unhooked since it would be stupid to go for the unhooker or alternatively "make your choice"s the unhooker.

What a priceless picture XD

excuse me please, but where exactly do you take these numbers from?

as far as i am concerned, a single hookstage takes 60 seconds to go through, two of which you will have to endure, totalling to a maximum of 120 seconds (2 minutes) of being facecamped.

asking someone to wait out these 120 seconds shouldnt be asked too much - and by doing so you A: buy your team an actual chance against the killer, aswell as B: punishing the killer for their bahavior.

if you dont do that, the killer gets what they want - they get to kill majority of the players in the trial AND to rank up, so you literally give them no incentive to ever play any different.

if you dont want to wait out these 120 seconds, you passively encourage killers to continue this behavior, therefore you basically ensure you will meet more killers that camp, so less games you can play normally.

Lol this happened to me as Legion on Deathslinger's Wild West map. I would hook a survivor and less than 10 seconds later, someone would race over there to unhook them and then I'd down both. I actually had a Meg try to sabotage the hook when I was right there carrying a survivor and I stabbed her and she fled. I won and they were like "Camper !" I'm like, I don't camp. You get little Bloodpoints for that and I like giving everyone a fair shot at the match. I'm very much like Jigsaw as a killer with allowing people to play The Game. People will be people, lol.

That's not exactly true. You get points for helping teammates and healing them. Fixing all of the gens alone can be done, yet it is going to be difficult if killer kills majority of team. I regularly try to help my team cause I want everyone to have fun and succeed. I've never understood the toxicity of this community that seems to drive off a lot of new players. I remember when I was new and I had people helping me hide and follow them. I now try to pay it forward and do the same for others. I helped my whole team (all 4 of us) and I escape when Spirit made me her obsession and I distracted her the whole match. Some of the players were new and got a lot of BP and were really happy.

It depends on the players and their confidence. I was on an indoors map against Pyramid Head. It was just me and Laurie left and we had 2 gens left. I fixed them as she distracted him. When I opened the door she got downed nearby and he was carrying her. Rather than just leave, I distracted him enough to where she broke free and we both escaped. It also varies by playstyle. Like for me as a killer, I hate Huntress. Why ? I like stealth and she isn't stealthy at all cause if her humming. This is why I like playing as The Pig and Ghostface cause they are stealth killers. As a survivor, I'm stealthy. I can't help or save everyone as survivor, but I'll try.

1) You are going to run into campers in ALL ranks because they exist in ALL ranks and will do so whenever they please even if they otherwise play normal because, like I said, some killers wanna troll and they will rank up when they want or derank when they want and they will troll when they want. The idea that it ties in with rank at all and that you can somehow avoid them in certain ranks or keep them from certain ranks is false. It is a troll strat, and extending that troll game is really only benefiting the camper who is doing it for personal satisfaction and nothing else. The way a camper sees it, that one person already being ######### over is enough. Whatever happens after that is irrelevant and no amount of 2 or 3 survivors making it changes that. If that strat ever worked, we would not have Killers as high as rank 1 doing that. There are literally YT videos with killers who laugh as they facecamp and don't give a damn about gens. (Off the top of my head, TUR Jay, and I think Jaee does it too sometimes.)

2.) One person is already being denied being able to play the game normally, and reporting them for choosing not to be camped IS an abuse. Sometimes people consider that to be the right choice in a situation and are not trying to sandbag or ruin your experience, they have already had their experience ruined by the camper. It is in no way like an early DC or suiciding bc you just hate the killer/map/perks. That player would have not otherwise done that had the killer not made them feel like it forced their hand. Some of us don't have time to waste. Also, the survivor is not the issue, the camper is, so again, if you want to report people why not report the camper? You're just blaming someone for not taking an L for you when camping is so rampant these days, I really don't see how you all think "Aww make em derank!!" is even a strat for dealing with them at this point.

3.) Personally, I am talking about face camping and very clear-cut denial of people trying to get another survivor off the hook, even at the sacrifice of the rest of the survivors escaping.

4.) It is everything to do with it, I don't want to sit around and wait for a match so I can just get tilted because I'm being camped and have to do a full minute of spacebar mashing when I already have carpal tunnel and joint issues from my line of work (it's one thing if I only have to do it for the time it takes to get rescued, another if every match I'm camped--which is every other match these days and I am rank three playing ranks 5 to 1 killers-- I have to do it for a full minute. Which, god bless Pyramid Head's skillcheck cages, if second hooks could be skillchecks life would be joy.) when, in the time I would have spent mashing spacebar until it became painful and I died I could just Q for my next game, give my hands a rest and watch a YT video.

TLDR:

Early DC's because of pettiness =/= not wanting to indulge in a killer being satisfied they facecamped you to the end, and the dev's have put "penalties" for camping, too, so clearly it is not an intended strat for the game. It's boring an irritating, and expecting people to put up with it, when, frankly, drawing the camping out doesn't make a difference and has not lead any campers to stop camping, suggests more to me that it's a better policy to either DC as a group and not give them the time they want to camp you for or to line up for him and again, get it over with as fast as possible.

The best remedy to camping is to not care about camping, because if combatting camping as you suggest were working in the slightest, you wouldn't have them in red ranks doing the same old thing.