PH is probably the worst licensed character in the game

The buyers remorse is strong with this one.

i mean, maybe you just aren’t that good with him

if you use him right you’ll always get a free hit at a majority of loops with punishment of the damned.

Even focusing his strengths he's just not that good. Anything he does (besides cages, obviously) another killer does way better and it isn't a one off part of their kit.

His trails are virtually worthless, purely there for the fantasy of being PH until Final Judgement, and on the rare cases you actually can use a cage in a smart way it still might hurt your pressure and give survivors an easy unhook + heal.

PotD is just too easy to see, dodge, and the wave like push it does limits it's ability to quickly hit people, or just let them not even get hit by it because the wave was a pixel past them despite it looking like a clear hit.

I'm not saying he's trash, he's just average. Nothing else.

"Terrible ranged option thats telegraphed? Check"

It is more useful to use for zoning, but can still be useful in some situations to actually hit.

"Terrible power which denies the only good gen regression perks? Check"

You don't really have to use it, It is more about whether you need the team to come to you or go further away & if you need pop.

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Tormented means nothing when the cages are useless."

Ever heard of final judgement? Also, the trails can often give away positions of survivors if they're crouching a rotating behind something.

Just use am all ears and you win with PH

The reason they stopped seeing cages was to prevent camping where you couldnt pull them out cause he blocked it. Now that at start from 5-0 gens will automatically be 2 free kills. Yes his ability needs more power and desire to use it as more than just a bait. But seeing as how the bait itself is strong, I believe if you stuck range addons on with Nurses and M&A, it would make it a little better. Again, his power I believe is to be used sparingly and wisely, not whipped out earliest convenience. He's good for trying to get 2 or 3 gen monetizing. Sending them far away so it's one less on rushing gens

I believe Bubba is still better than given credit for. He can bait pallets, can force to make plays around certain loops. 4.6m with instantdown is crazy enough. I know he isnt great compared to the others, but I feel he deserves more credit than just "Camping tool". I've seen plenty Red rank Bubba games dominate cause they know how to use him well. 3-4k.

I'd actually agree with this. All the other licensed killers have a few things going for them that can help them get kills, but PH really doesn't other than his range attack which is pretty weak and easy to dodge. The cages do counteract BT and DS, but he can't even see where they are, plus caging a survivor nullifies so many great killer perks like bbq, pop, devour etc.

@LordGlint They have only shortened 2 maps and not by much. The Swamp maps are still terrible but to say just let them do the farthest gens with no real way to stop them and staying near the closest gens is a terrible idea. Thats 1 person being chased with 3 people on the same gen that is done in like 30 seconds. They just leave 1 gen across the map and split up after and you're finished. That's the problem with super big maps and killers who have no real mobility. I play all killers just about equally but I use to love Billy because I could actually protect gens much easier than someone like Micheal. Even Demo can kinda protect gens and he's better. You can fake a shred for an easy hit or destroy a pallet quickly and keep going. Demo does what PH does but better.

If survivors are easily dodging your attack, you aren't playing him correctly. You're supposed to use it as a survivor is forced to lock themselves into an animation. He's a good killer in good hands.

Maybe if he couldn't cancel it, his power would be bad. But you constantly can force survivors into scenarios where they either vault and die, or fake and still get hit. It's an extremely strong zoning tool, similar to Deathslinger.

Not really. Its not hard to pull off and you'll have it down after afew matches.

Someone doesn't know how to play Pyramid Head apparently.

His anti-loop game is great when you get a feel for what survivors are going to do when you threaten them with your power. His ranged is just like Demo's and Huntress; just wait a second to bait the dodge and you'll get them almost every time or they'll serpentine right into you so you can just m1 them anyways. The threat of his power is just as effective as the actual power. Pair with I'm All Ears to get full value out of this. Also, good luck unhooking right in front of him lol. His power requires technical skill and muscle memory like Nurse and Huntress, so I think that's what your hangup on him is.

BTW the only other killer that can ignore obstacles is Nurse. So on paper, he could be just as effective as Nurse in a 1v1 in the right hands. Now that I think about it, Stridor might be pretty good on him as well. The only thing he's missing is mobility, but efficient use of his cages and proper gen control can make up for that.

He's not the best, but he certainly isn't the worst by any means necessary. I would put him above Demo for the simple fact that his attack can go through obstacles and Demo's can't. Honestly I think I would only put Freddy above him for obvious reasons. Ghostface is way too reliant on his add-ons and can be deprived of his power too easily, while Myers is outdated and Pig is well... Pig. It's too early to make a call on rework Bubba, but I would still pick PH over him based on what I've seen in the rework.

I appreciate the advice but it's not exactly hard to figure out he's best at animation locks or faking it out. In either case it's not what I was hoping for with him. I wanted PotD to be his main tool he used, not something that's only useful when survivors allow it to be, or just not even using it for fake outs.

I feel like he's the weakest in terms of flexibility and versatility with his power though. Well, maybe Huntress too but no one else can get a hit from across the map.

Yes like Hag and Freddy I will run STFBL on him to capitalize on the potential to hit -> PotD before they can really get far. I just wish his cool attack had more oompf and presence in his gameplay.

While I'll admit, those are some good shots...What is up with this video quality? lol

But that's really not a big plus. It's situational as hell. Freddy can ignore BT too but that's not what makes him good. Countering a few perks but having no control over you hooks isn't really a pay off, since you can't defend it or pressure the unhook.

My thoughts exactly! I know I could probably be more efficient by faking the power to get basic hits all the time but that's just one hell of a boring playstyle so I go for risky shots as often as possible.

I think you just don’t know how to use him. I’m a rank 1, p3 Pyramid Head. He’s yet to let me down. I rarely tunnel and never camp. I get constant 4ks with him and I’m very consistent with perfect games.