A lot of people targeting Spirit now that Billy is nerfed...

I agree, I am by all means a killer "main" at heart but for example yesterday all I played was survivor. My goal is to have 2k hours, 1k in each side, right now at 1700 with over 1k hours as killer. I want 1k hours as survivor. Despite me preferring role of killer, I play a tremendous amount of surv.

I've never seen anything like this & the only time her shards glowed that I saw was a video that I stared at zoomed in at for 16 seconds. Some of her skins don't even do this.

I think the OP is referring to the resurfacing of the topic. People have been complaining about everything, but specific events bring to the surface these old topics.

The forums are a cesspool of misinformation, angry rants and entitled echo chambers.

In response to your second part yep. Stridor makes it so survivors breath at 150% volume, when combined with iron will it makes it 50% the usual volume, so unless you're using no mither you still make sounds (its annoying lol).

Also in regards to the skins, it may just be the default. I know for a fact her Halloween, rift 2, and schoolgirl skins don't glow.

I accept that you personally feel like you got mindgamed when you got caught out by a spirit. However, think about this - while youre at a tile (be it a jungle gym/window tile/shack/whatever) - to mindgame you a player would have to actually think about how to get to you. For example they might try to hide their red light and walk backwards to cover distance whilst you still don't know where they are, or fake going one way and then go the other. To me that's a mindgame. Now think about spirit/deathslinger:

• Spirit - all you need to do is stand still for 2 seconds to see how a player reacts. If they stand still as well, phase to where they are. If they run away, phase and follow them. If they run towards you, don't phase and just smack them. In each of these scenarios the spirit holds all the information and the survivor holds none, as they don't know when the spirit actually starts phasing.
• Deathslinger - assume you're being chased and have made distance, but are not at a tile yet. All the deathslinger needs to do is "fake" their power a couple of times (just aim down the sights) and observe what the survivors does. If they tried to dodge, you're making up the distance, so you can just shoot (based on their dodge pattern) or catch up whilst they lose distance trying to dodge. If they don't try to dodge, just shoot straight and you're guaranteed to catch them. In either scenario, the deathslinger holds all of the information and again, the survivor holds none - they just have to guess when the Deathslinger is actually going to shoot.

Both killers can be defeated, but in an actual chase (which to me at least is the fun part of playing survivor), they'll catch you without actually having to outplay you. That's my issue with both killers. It's not that they're strong - it's the fact that you're not actually playing against them, you're just guessing.

There are always bad players

Most of her skins have a sparkling to them when she phrases..its odd

In my opinion, Billy didn't need any Base Kit Nerfs. Some of his new Add-Ons need tweaking as well.

Spirit doesn't need straight up Nerfs either, but some tweaking, so I came with those ideas:

• Spirit cannot hear grunts of Pain while phasing, but can hear other sounds like breathing, footsteps and grass moving a bit louder than normal.
• Increased her base phasing duration to 7.5 seconds to compensate since you will have to be more aware and cautious now while phasing.
• Give her a glowing effect when she starts phasing, but no information to where she is phasing.

This are my ideas and I think it would be nice like that because at the moment you need Iron Will to have some sort of counter to her. This change will make Iron Will kind of base for as long as she is phasing so it won't be mandatory to have this Perk anymore.

Increasing her base phasing duration needs to be there because you need more time to react to other sounds since you won't hear grunts of pain anymore.

And the glowing Effect should work as a feedback to when she is phasing so you can prepare to move somewhere when you see this effect go off.

And if we are at it, I also have ideas for Nurse because there could have been made better work with her.

At the moment, she is the only Killer which really ignores base stats because of her complex power.

Usually, a Killer with a 32 metre TR moves at 4.6 m/s and a Killer with a 24 metre TR moves at 4.4 m/s. She has a 32 metre TR and moves at 3.85 m/s, which compared to other Killers is completely out of the norm, so I came up with those ideas:

Nurse base stats:

• Terror Radius: 24 metres
• Movement Speed: 4.4 m/s

Changes to Spencer's Last Breath

The Nurse now starts with 15 Charges. Every Charge takes 1 second to reload but will only reload of all Charges are consumed.

Every Blink removes 2.5 Charges. You will be able to double blink 3 times until all your charges are consumed, which will result in a cooldown for 15 seconds. During those 15 seconds you will be a Killer with 110 % movement speed, similar to Spirit while she is waiting for her phase to come back. I tried to make this similar to Spirit.

This change will give you a bit of the feel of old Nurse, since you can double Blink 3 Times without a cooldown after every Blink and after using all Charges, you'll have to chase Survivors normally as a 4.4 m/s Killer for as long as your Power is on cooldown.

I don't have ideas for Add-Ons yet since I came up with this idea recently so I'll work on that as well.

She would be able to have a 16 metre Terror Radius for a dangerous sneak up, but you shouldn't really get Blink grabbed since she makes a loud sound when blinking and if she doesn't reach your gen or position while blinking she also screams which will indicate that she saw you with Nurses Calling or is approaching your position.

I'd probably do a seperate thread for this, but you can add constructive Feedback which will help.

@MrDardon Spirit can’t rely strictly on things like breathing and grass moving when sounds are absolutely broken. Half the time survivors don’t even make footstep sounds. Grunts of pain are really her only way of reliably tracking and sometimes survivors don’t even make injured sounds when they don’t have Iron Will equipped.

If sounds worked and STAYED working then maybe I can see it working but you can’t rely on something that doesn’t work half the time.

Spirit kinda has to rely on all of the things she currently has in her base-kit to be a threat especially with broken sounds.

I could imagine it working if sounds were fixed but yeah, they first have to fix them.